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November 2001 plane crash (A A flight 587) Queens, NY was AL QAIDA operation
NATIONAL POST ( CANADA) ^ | 8/27/04 | Stewart Bell

Posted on 08/27/2004 2:01:17 PM PDT by Cincinna

November 2001 plane crash (A A flight 587) Queens, NY was AL QAIDA operation

Stewart Bell National Post ( CANADA)

August 27, 2004

A captured al-Qaeda operative has told Canadian intelligence investigators that a Montreal man who trained in Afghanistan alongside the 9/11 hijackers was responsible for the crash of an American Airlines flight in New York three years ago.

Canadian Security Intelligence Service agents were told during five days of interviews with the source that Abderraouf Jdey, a Canadian citizen also known as Farouk the Tunisian, had downed the plane with explosives on Nov. 12, 2001.

The source claimed Jdey had used his Canadian passport to board Flight 587 and "conducted a suicide mission" with a small bomb similar to the one used by convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid, a "Top Secret" Canadian government report says.

But officials said it was unlikely Jdey was actually involved in the crash, which killed 265 people and is considered accidental. The fact that al-Qaeda attributed the crash to Jdey, however, suggests they were expecting him to attack a plane.

"We have seen no evidence of anything other than an accident here," said Ted Lopatkiewicz, spokesman for the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. "There has been no evidence found, from what I can tell -- at least that's been relayed to us -- that there was any criminality involved here. It appears, at least the evidence we have, is that a vertical fin came off, not that there was any kind of event in the cabin."

Jdey, 39, came to Canada from Tunisia in 1991 and became a citizen in 1995. Shortly after getting his Canadian passport, he left for Afghanistan and trained with some of the Sept. 11 hijackers, according to the 9/11 commission in the United States.

He recorded a "martyrdom" video, but was dropped from the 9/11 mission after returning to Canada in the summer of 2001. The planner of the World Trade Center attack, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, claims Jdey was recruited for a "second wave" of suicide attacks.

The FBI issued an alert seeking Jdey's whereabouts in 2002. John Ashcroft, the U.S. Attorney-General, told a news conference in May that Jdey was one of seven al-Qaeda associates "sought in connection with the possible terrorist threats in the United States."

The information on Jdey's alleged role in the plane crash is contained in a memo on captured Canadian al-Qaeda operative Mohammed Mansour Jabarah. The Canadian government memo was written in May, 2002, and was based on information provided by a "source of unknown reliability."

Jabarah is a 22-year-old from St. Catharines who allegedly joined al-Qaeda and convinced Osama bin Laden to give him a terror assignment. He was tasked with overseeing a suicide-bombing operation in Southeast Asia, but was caught and has since pleaded guilty in the United States.

The report, which was sent to the Philippine National Police intelligence directorate, recounts what Jabarah said he was told about the U.S. plane crash by Abu Abdelrahman, a Saudi al-Qaeda member who was working for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

"In discussions, Abu Abdelrahman mentioned AL QAIDA was responsible for the assassination of Massoud, the Northern Alliance leader," the report says. "According to the source, Abu Abdelrahman added that the 12 November 2001 plane crash (btb American Airlines flight 587) in Queens, New York was not an accident as reported in the press but was actually an AL QAIDA operation.

"Abu Abdelrahman informed Jabarah that Farouk the Tunisian conducted a suicide mission on the aeroplane using a shoe bomb of the type used by Richard Reid .... 'Farouk the Tunisian' was identified from newspaper photographs as being identical to Abderraouf Jdey, a Canadian citizen who had resided in Montreal."

Jabarah was initially suspect of the claim about Jdey, but he later believed it after he saw the same information on a "mujahedin Web site," the report says.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
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I knew it all the time ! Ditto TWA flight 800.
1 posted on 08/27/2004 2:01:19 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: Cincinna

I alway thought it was a load of hooey that terrorism was ruled out even as the plane lay burning


2 posted on 08/27/2004 2:03:11 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Cincinna

Oy, have you just opened a can of worms.


3 posted on 08/27/2004 2:03:25 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........."YO" is "OY" spelled backwards.........)
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To: Cincinna

I seriously doubt this. Al-Queda has neve been shy about claiming credit for such "victories". If they were truly able to bring down another plane just 2 months after 9-11, they would have been shouting it from the rooftops.


4 posted on 08/27/2004 2:03:31 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: Cincinna

Allow me to be the first to say, "BUSH'S FAULT!"

/sarcasm


5 posted on 08/27/2004 2:03:53 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: Cincinna

An al-Qaeda operative says it, and they print it as fact. I suppose they believe everything that comes out of anyone's mouth, except a US Republican. Piss poor reporting.


6 posted on 08/27/2004 2:05:03 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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"Al-Queda has neve been shy about claiming credit for such "victories"

They were actually pretty shy about claiming credit for 9/11.

7 posted on 08/27/2004 2:06:07 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Cincinna

I was thinking 587 was terrorism too


8 posted on 08/27/2004 2:07:00 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: Cincinna

Methinks this operative might have taken a clue from Kerry and was pumping up his war record...


9 posted on 08/27/2004 2:08:26 PM PDT by RS (Just because the SwiftVets are out to get him dosen't mean he's not guilty)
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To: Cincinna
But officials said it was unlikely Jdey was actually involved in the crash, which killed 265 people and is considered accidental.

But of course. On the day of the wreck, while it was still burning, NTSB officials were jumping up and down and screaming that it wasn't terrorism. Pretty unusual for an organization that isn't supposed to comment on an investigation until the official accident report comes out.

10 posted on 08/27/2004 2:08:28 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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So suddenly the word of one terrorist PROVES the cause of an airline crash? Maybe this guy believes or hopes that the plane went down because of terrorism, but there was nobody named Jdey on the plane. Nor was there any sign of an explosion.

I'm not buying this yet.

11 posted on 08/27/2004 2:08:41 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Cincinna; SunkenCiv

*duh*
Next someone will tell us that EgyptAir 990 was also a terrorist downing.
Some people are smart enough to KNOW these things, even when the gov't is in instant denial --- especially when the gov't is in instant denial.


12 posted on 08/27/2004 2:09:51 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: CA Conservative

Actually, I just read an article today that claims the opposite.


13 posted on 08/27/2004 2:10:23 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Sam Cree
They were actually pretty shy about claiming credit for 9/11.

No, I remember a widely-broadcast video of Osama himself claiming credit for 9-11. It was delivered by Al-Queda to Al-Jazeera, who then passed it on to real news outlets.

14 posted on 08/27/2004 2:10:59 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: Cincinna

Well it looks like terrorists are being caught all over the world all the time. Sorry it took attacking America to do it.

Bush has done a super job in motivating world leaders of this real threat.


15 posted on 08/27/2004 2:11:01 PM PDT by Zyke (Who you are speaks so loudly I can't hear what you are saying. -Emerson)
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To: Dog Gone

Why did you buy it when the gov't said it WASN'T a terrorist attack?

Of course it was a shoe bomb style attack .... I have very little faith in American citizens who doubt the obvious just because they prefer to watch sugarplums dance in their heads.


16 posted on 08/27/2004 2:11:50 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Cincinna

I think it was more clearcut TWA-800 was terrorism. You at least have people on the record , or acting in a way consistent with treating it as a terrorist act, until the boom got lowered by Clinton to perfore a "swerve".
Why would Al-Queda knock off a plane full of Dominican?


17 posted on 08/27/2004 2:12:04 PM PDT by L`enn
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To: Cincinna
If it was a suicide mission by Jdey, shouldn't they be able to place him on the passenger list (even if he used an alias, shouldn't someone no one can identify/place stand out)? Even, possibly, have some remains?
18 posted on 08/27/2004 2:12:35 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: Cincinna
Single source - no proof.

How many bridges have you purchased lately?

19 posted on 08/27/2004 2:12:48 PM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: CA Conservative

Actually, no.

Al Qaeda doesn't claim responsibility for their actions.

They didn't for the Embassy bombins, the USS Cole or 9-11.


20 posted on 08/27/2004 2:13:17 PM PDT by Guillermo (These are the two worst candidates for President in a very long time)
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