Posted on 08/27/2004 2:01:17 PM PDT by Cincinna
November 2001 plane crash (A A flight 587) Queens, NY was AL QAIDA operation
Stewart Bell National Post ( CANADA)
August 27, 2004
A captured al-Qaeda operative has told Canadian intelligence investigators that a Montreal man who trained in Afghanistan alongside the 9/11 hijackers was responsible for the crash of an American Airlines flight in New York three years ago.
Canadian Security Intelligence Service agents were told during five days of interviews with the source that Abderraouf Jdey, a Canadian citizen also known as Farouk the Tunisian, had downed the plane with explosives on Nov. 12, 2001.
The source claimed Jdey had used his Canadian passport to board Flight 587 and "conducted a suicide mission" with a small bomb similar to the one used by convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid, a "Top Secret" Canadian government report says.
But officials said it was unlikely Jdey was actually involved in the crash, which killed 265 people and is considered accidental. The fact that al-Qaeda attributed the crash to Jdey, however, suggests they were expecting him to attack a plane.
"We have seen no evidence of anything other than an accident here," said Ted Lopatkiewicz, spokesman for the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. "There has been no evidence found, from what I can tell -- at least that's been relayed to us -- that there was any criminality involved here. It appears, at least the evidence we have, is that a vertical fin came off, not that there was any kind of event in the cabin."
Jdey, 39, came to Canada from Tunisia in 1991 and became a citizen in 1995. Shortly after getting his Canadian passport, he left for Afghanistan and trained with some of the Sept. 11 hijackers, according to the 9/11 commission in the United States.
He recorded a "martyrdom" video, but was dropped from the 9/11 mission after returning to Canada in the summer of 2001. The planner of the World Trade Center attack, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, claims Jdey was recruited for a "second wave" of suicide attacks.
The FBI issued an alert seeking Jdey's whereabouts in 2002. John Ashcroft, the U.S. Attorney-General, told a news conference in May that Jdey was one of seven al-Qaeda associates "sought in connection with the possible terrorist threats in the United States."
The information on Jdey's alleged role in the plane crash is contained in a memo on captured Canadian al-Qaeda operative Mohammed Mansour Jabarah. The Canadian government memo was written in May, 2002, and was based on information provided by a "source of unknown reliability."
Jabarah is a 22-year-old from St. Catharines who allegedly joined al-Qaeda and convinced Osama bin Laden to give him a terror assignment. He was tasked with overseeing a suicide-bombing operation in Southeast Asia, but was caught and has since pleaded guilty in the United States.
The report, which was sent to the Philippine National Police intelligence directorate, recounts what Jabarah said he was told about the U.S. plane crash by Abu Abdelrahman, a Saudi al-Qaeda member who was working for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
"In discussions, Abu Abdelrahman mentioned AL QAIDA was responsible for the assassination of Massoud, the Northern Alliance leader," the report says. "According to the source, Abu Abdelrahman added that the 12 November 2001 plane crash (btb American Airlines flight 587) in Queens, New York was not an accident as reported in the press but was actually an AL QAIDA operation.
"Abu Abdelrahman informed Jabarah that Farouk the Tunisian conducted a suicide mission on the aeroplane using a shoe bomb of the type used by Richard Reid .... 'Farouk the Tunisian' was identified from newspaper photographs as being identical to Abderraouf Jdey, a Canadian citizen who had resided in Montreal."
Jabarah was initially suspect of the claim about Jdey, but he later believed it after he saw the same information on a "mujahedin Web site," the report says.
The F-117 does not have a vertical stabilizer. The stabilators (partially) separated because of an airframe failure. Very different stuff.
Of course N14053 had suffered damage to its tail several years earlier. Previous damage to the tail of aircraft have been responsible for other accidents including one that killed 524 people.
Ok, then why was the 747 not grounded after JAL 123 crashed following the inflight lose of its tail?
The facts are that multiple eyewitnesses at street level who told investigators (and public media outlets) that they saw an explosion followed by fire near the engine that came off BEFORE the tail section.
The fact is, the gov't refused to release the tollbooth video which would have shown the smoking wing-section and an intact tail section. To respond with "we don't believe this is terrorism" within HOURS of arriving at the site where human remains were still being tagged was the height of stupidity. Planes with detaching tail sections are grounded and/or re-designed. When a DC-10 went down at O'Hare in 1979 because of cracks in the engine pylons (the engine fell off during takeoff), the entire nationwide fleet was grounded for MONTHS for full inspections. No public company would take the risk of a repeat accident happening without an intensive review of the design and potential flaws. This never happened. Not by Airbus, not by American Airlines.
With the additional Richard Reid event over the Atlantic Ocean, just two months later, it would not be a leap to say that Reid, who specifically requested a seat over the wing section of his plane, failed to accomplish what was accomplished in NY in October.
Yeah, did they EVER come up with a cause for that Pittsburgh crash? After years and years, there was no official verdict. Yet, the plane in Queens was still burning and they "knew" it wasn't terrorism.
If only one plane had crashed 9/11, we'd be told it was "pilot error".
Looks like the republican big ole' guns are beginning to fire.....fast and loud.
Wonder what's next? Oh boy!!! ;o)
Since Kerry's campaign is imploding...this is getting fun!!!
Kind of makes you want to know if the plane you are about to board has sufferred previous damage, eh?
Well this is a legit Bush coverup he needs to own up to now.
Not quite. It had help from maintenance crews in Tulsa that were servicing engines by using a fork-lift to remove them from the pylons instead of the Boeing-recommended method. They ended up cracking the pylons in numerous DC-10's, which would have shared the same fate as 191 if the fleet was not entirely grounded for intensive inspections.
Have there been any commercial airline crashes in US since the AA flight 587 in Queens NY in Nov 2001?
Unless AQ designed and manufactured the Airbus, this is near impossible.
Its much easier to believe an Airbus lost its rudder and fell out of the sky than to believe AQ had anything to do with it. Besides, this isn't the Clinton administration that was trying to keep from dealing with terrorism and foreign policy at all costs. If AQ was behind this, the Bush admin would know it and use it as another justification to destroy them.
On May 25, 1979, an American Airlines DC-10-10, Registry N110AA crashed due to just that. As the aircraft began its rotation, the Number 1 (port) engine and pylon separated from the aircraft. It flew up and over the wing ripping out fuel and hydraulic lines. This caused the slats on the left wing to retract. When the crew followed the standard procedure for an engine failure, they reduced power on engines 2 & 3. This caused airspeed to drop and due to the asymmetrical slats caused by the engine tearing away, the left wing stalled and N110AA fell to earth killing all 270 people on board and 2 on the ground.
DITTO all that stuff. This guy Jday is on the plane, attributed to Al=Quada, he is no where to be found, hundreds of witnesses say it was an explosion and a crash; the FBI issued a satement saying it was an accident, WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU WANT¿
The headline. It's misleading.
The event was near the tail. They can't spin this much harder.
Another thing that bothers me: Why isn't the flight attendant who stopped the "shoe bomber" a household name? What an incredible act of heroism! Yes, it was a British flight, but why was that story denied by our government, then glossed over?
Improper repair of the bulkhead while being supervised by Boeing engineers after a tail strike in 1978.
Boeing knew this specific plane had previous damage repair done to the tail section. There was no reason to assume that it was a design flaw.
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