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If they could just stop voter fraud, Pres. Bush would win by a land slide.
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Posted on 08/27/2004 5:47:48 PM PDT by Good.V.Evil

GOP Finds Duplicate Voting

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Possible Duplicate Registration and Voting, 1998 and General Elections

Overall Findings

An analysis of all or part of 11 states (AZ, CT, FL, MA, NC, NJ, NM, NY, PA, RI, SC) resulted in the following findings:

Based on 2000 records, in those states there are 140,109 people who are registered to vote in two locations (could be two states or two counties in the same state). This includes the NY Post study. Without the NY Post numbers, the total new double registrations found is 69,887.

Based on 1998 records, 219 people's voter registrations were voted twice (once each in different locations) in the 1998 election.

Based on 2000 records, 689 people's voter registrations were voted twice (once each in different locations) in the 2000 election.

Section 1, Duplicate Registration and Voting Between States New York Post, 12/19/00, Reference

(Registration) NYC/LI to Florida *Registrants '00

Bronx 1,610

Brooklyn 3,294

Manhattan 2,882

Nassau 1,454

Staten Island 3,298

Suffolk 558

Total 14,496

Source: NY Post, Double-Dippers Sign Up to Vote in N.Y. and Florida, 12/19/00

Subsequent RNC Findings

(Voting) NYC to Florida Voters '00

Broward 99

Miami-Dade 122

Palm Beach 65

Total 286

CT (20,207 intrastate dupes) Reg '00 Voters '00 Voters '98

Arizona 114 n/a n/a

Massachusetts 1,460 n/a n/a

New Mexico 37 n/a n/a

North Carolina 300 n/a n/a

South Carolina 117 n/a n/a

Rhode Island 207 n/a n/a

Total 2,235 n/a n/a

NJ (18,246 intrastate duplicates) Reg '00 Voters '00 Voters '98

Arizona 596 15 n/a

Florida 7,475 207 65

New Mexico 125 n/a n/a

(1) New York 2,101 33 16

North Carolina 2,052 52 n/a

(2) Pennsylvania 6,786 39 40

South Carolina 1,042 52 n/a

Total 20,177 398 121

(1) NJ counties include Bergen, Hudson and Union, NY boroughs include Manhattan, Bronx and Staten Island

(2) NJ counties include Burlington, Camden, Gloucester, Mercer and Sussex, PA counties include Philadelphia, Bucks and Delaware

PA (17,276 intrastate duplicates) Reg '00 Voters '00 Voters '98

Arizona 592 n/a n/a

Florida 18,049 n/a n/a

New Mexico 658 n/a n/a

North Carolina 9,193 n/a n/a

South Carolina 3,980 n/a n/a

Total 32,472 n/a n/a

Section 2, Duplicate Registration and Voting Across City/County Boundaries (Intrastate)

City/County of Philadelphia, PA Reg '00 Voters '00 Voters '98

Chester 1,422 5 29

Delaware 2,978 9 17

Montgomery 7,339 22 39

Bucks 3,208 17 13

Total 14,947 53 98

City of Pittsburgh, PA Reg '00 Voters '00 Voters '98

Allegheny 56 0 n/a

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This is just one of the ways these snakes get their numbers.
1 posted on 08/27/2004 5:47:48 PM PDT by Good.V.Evil
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To: Good.V.Evil
Ed Kotch on FOX -- Every Kerry supporter - every one - he's talked to says Bush will win.
2 posted on 08/27/2004 5:51:15 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Good.V.Evil

I agree 100%. It's the fraud factor that makes Republicans have to win big in order to win at all in many local areas and states and this is definitely the case in the presidential elections now.


3 posted on 08/27/2004 5:51:19 PM PDT by Route66 (America's Mainstreet)
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To: Good.V.Evil

I heard a rumor or fact that in 2000 Philly and Detroit both had 100% voter turnout. I wonder if any freepers have any info??


4 posted on 08/27/2004 5:51:36 PM PDT by Coroner
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To: Good.V.Evil

Is why, we got to pray and work and work some more. We need Pres. Bush to have a wide enough margin to keep the dims from cheating the system.


5 posted on 08/27/2004 5:52:17 PM PDT by onyx eyes
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To: Good.V.Evil

And if my aunt had...


6 posted on 08/27/2004 5:53:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Good.V.Evil

Why don't they give party affiliation?


7 posted on 08/27/2004 5:53:43 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Good.V.Evil

Hmm... A national standard for voting registration databases, which will allow a cross check between state databases after voter registration closes.

States stay in control, database records with problems such as double registration are investigated and reconciled. The press can monitor the process, it can be completely open.


8 posted on 08/27/2004 5:53:53 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: Good.V.Evil
You say "if they could.

That implies they are trying. In reality, they are doing everything they possibly can to cause as much fraud as possible in the hopes that Bush will not win. They are institutionalizing voter fraud.

9 posted on 08/27/2004 5:54:28 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Good.V.Evil
The Wisconsin legislature passed a voter ID bill, and Governor Doyle (D) vetoed it. Gee, I wonder why!
10 posted on 08/27/2004 5:54:41 PM PDT by StACase
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To: Good.V.Evil

I thik the results are a lot clearer if you click on the pennsylvania GOP link under the thread title.


11 posted on 08/27/2004 5:57:55 PM PDT by Good.V.Evil
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To: Good.V.Evil
This is just one of the ways these snakes get their numbers.

Exactly! Who would vote Democrat so they could pay everyone else's bills? I thought that was odd.
50% of the nation is "suppose" to be Democrat, but a whole 50% doesn't leech off other people.
Only those who are homosexuals, whores, or social parasites would be Democrats.

12 posted on 08/27/2004 6:01:20 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Good.V.Evil

we need to have poll watchers everywhere ....EVERYWHERE!!


13 posted on 08/27/2004 6:01:53 PM PDT by thestob
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To: onyx eyes

That's why Hewitt wrote "If it's not close, they can't cheat".
H8


14 posted on 08/27/2004 6:01:57 PM PDT by Attn to Detail (NEED 2 SENATORS FOR NC! Has had 1 for too long.)
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To: the_Watchman

I wondered that too, maybe it is on the website. I know that in New York the number is 68%/12% Dem/Rep. If that helps.


15 posted on 08/27/2004 6:02:33 PM PDT by Good.V.Evil
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To: the_Watchman
Why don't they give party affiliation?

It's a GOP site. If it were Republicans, do you think they'd report it?

16 posted on 08/27/2004 6:03:15 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Good.V.Evil

This is exactly what I have been telling my husband. The Dems have been getting away with voter fraud for years, and are increasingly more blatant about it, all the while projecting accusations of such against the Republicans. And why not? When are they held to account? I told my husband back in 2000 that if Pres. Bush and the Republicans did not come out strong to expose and fight Dem voter fraud, it would come back to haunt them again.

The Dems have been very diligent worker bees these past four years, getting every detail into place, probably more than we can even imagine. Getting ready for the Coup D'Etat. If they don't succeed this time, it will only be because Hillary wants her turn in '08 (Barf). If Pres. Bush wins this time, can you just imagine the incensed crazed foaming at the mouth Commies, come 2008?


17 posted on 08/27/2004 6:06:38 PM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: Good.V.Evil
It's not just in the Blue States either. I worked the 1996 election in Galveston County Texas when Clinton won the second time around. In Texas City (big union town) we kept seeing the same people again and again voting with different voter certificate numbers. We had illegals who couldn't speak the english language coming in with lists with the names of democratic candidates wanting assistance to vote. With the advent of Motor Voter you can't challenge them and if you do, it really doesn't matter. We reported abnormalities in most of the precincts.

If you folks believe as I do that this IS the most important election of our lives then sign up to work the election as an election clerk or election judge or sign up as an observer and report abonormalities. Maybe someone will listen this time around.

18 posted on 08/27/2004 6:07:23 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: Route66
Well, if one starts actively prosecuting them, then the double voters will get criminal history as felons and in the future should not be able to vote at all. This is the recipe for millennial Republican paradise. Where is Ashcroft looking?
19 posted on 08/27/2004 6:07:55 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Good.V.Evil
OHIO -- Voter cards put AFL-CIO in bind

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1201200/posts

20 posted on 08/27/2004 6:08:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Good.V.Evil

Are your figures for dual registrations or for dual voting. I'm not sure dual registration is always evidence of wrong doing.


21 posted on 08/27/2004 6:10:06 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Good.V.Evil

If something could have been done about voter fraud, the 2000 election would not have been in any sort of dispute....


22 posted on 08/27/2004 6:11:02 PM PDT by TheBattman (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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To: GSlob
Well, if one starts actively prosecuting them, then the double voters will get criminal history as felons

That's a great idea.
Why isn't it being investigated more? It should be a huge issue in Washington!

23 posted on 08/27/2004 6:12:52 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Coroner
Phildelphia is every bit as filthy as Cook County, and the current PA governor is a Philadelphia machine politician, so you can expect that Kerry will win PA, one way or the other.

The Democrats like to claim they won PA in 2000. A lot of us don't beleive it. Here's something from a John Fund column, it's representative:

"Philadelphia has a long reputation of fixing elections as a means of controlling patronage and municipal contracts. The Philadelphia Inquirer has noted that the city has just over one million registered voters. Since that's just about the number of eligible voters the U.S. census estimates live in the city, experts believe there are upward of 80,000 fraudulent registrations.

The source of this info is a Philadelphia Inquirer article. The Inquirer is one of the most left-wing papers in the country--consistently to the left of the NYT. If they admit to a problem, imagine how bad it really is.

Yes. Duplicate registration is just the tip of the iceberg in PA.

24 posted on 08/27/2004 6:15:12 PM PDT by FredZarguna (I'm FredZarguna, and I endure this message.)
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To: Good.V.Evil
If they could just stop voter fraud, Pres. Bush would win by a land slide.

And if the media reported the Truth, rather than acting as a Dem propaganda machine, we'd be looking at a historic 50 state landslide with the Dems locked out of a credible run for the next generation.

It'll be intersting, to say the least, to learn how effective modern brainwashing has been on the population.

25 posted on 08/27/2004 6:19:08 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Hiskid

Ping/vote fraud


26 posted on 08/27/2004 6:20:16 PM PDT by reformedliberal ("John, YOU were the wrong one, here". Bob Dole)
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To: Good.V.Evil

Yes, massive Democrat Voter Fraud is something we have to fight every year. I'm getting sick of it. I want to see some SOBs thrown in jail over this. Seriously.


27 posted on 08/27/2004 6:21:26 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: the_Watchman

Are your figures for dual registrations or for dual voting. I'm not sure dual registration is always evidence of wrong doing.

It is for both.
If you click on the web addy below the thread title, it is a lot easier to understand.


28 posted on 08/27/2004 6:26:57 PM PDT by Good.V.Evil
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To: Good.V.Evil

I have a question for the thread.

A hypothetical question.

If you were a strong bush supporter, and you owned a vacation home in a different state, and you could register to vote in your "second home state" without abandoning your original home state's registration....................

Would you vote twice for bush?

Just wondering...............................


29 posted on 08/27/2004 6:33:02 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Good.V.Evil
Welcome to Freerepublic.
Newbie alert
30 posted on 08/27/2004 6:39:45 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Many FReepers claimed in 2000 that there were between a half-million and a million fraudulent votes cast nation-wide, and that Al Gore didn't even really win the popular vote. I remember some claiming that even without Ralph Nader, GWB still actually would have won the popular vote were there no voter fraud.

At the time, I wrote that if this is true, then the GOP deserves to lose if they didn't put on a major effort over the next four years to combat voter fraud. If they've done anything, I haven't seen it.

The story is told that a top Dem operative bragged to a top GOP operative in 1960 that they would always be able to steal a close election. He was talking about a few hundred or thousand votes here and there -- a Florida-type situation, or one like South Dakota's last Senate race. I have no doubt that had a recount actually proceeded in Florida in 2000, Al Gore would have won that recount. Democrats do cheat.

What is being alleged here on FR, though, is something on a much more massive scale. If it is true, then we must pray that this isn't a close election (I don't think it will be), because I've heard of nothing having been done to combat voter fraud. You know how I know it hasn't been done? I haven't heard the Dems screaming...

31 posted on 08/27/2004 6:49:48 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: Good.V.Evil
THe GOP and the Justice Dept better get on this BS up front>

Ashbrook better get the warning out that this crap ceases
32 posted on 08/27/2004 6:50:04 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: WhiteGuy
Would you vote twice for bush? Just wondering...............................

And if it happened and the deomocrats were in control they and the MSM would be all over it
33 posted on 08/27/2004 6:52:49 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Coroner

Philly had 900,000 votes cast out of a total population of 1,300,000 (according to 2000 census). That's a helluva turnout


34 posted on 08/27/2004 6:57:04 PM PDT by Damagro
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To: GSlob
then the double voters will get criminal history as felons and in the future should not be able to vote at all.

Over 30 states allow felons to regain voting rights after completion of sentence.

Link

35 posted on 08/27/2004 6:58:36 PM PDT by Freebird Forever (Diversity is divisive)
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To: uncbob
The hypothetical question is............

Would YOU?

Is assuring the victory of george bush over john kerry that important to you?

Are the thoughts of the ramifications of a kerry presidency so repulsive that you'd be willing to "bend" the rules, just this once?

It's just one vote, quite insignificant really, and your vacation home is in Florida, a battle ground state............would you?

Everyday here on FreeRepublic we are all reminded that this is the most important election in anyone's lifetime, right?

So...........................................
36 posted on 08/27/2004 7:01:38 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: coconutt2000
A national standard for voting registration databases, which will allow a cross check between state databases after voter registration closes.

States stay in control, database records with problems such as double registration are investigated and reconciled. The press can monitor the process, it can be completely open.

There is a way to do it now, but most conservatives would not be inclined to support it.

37 posted on 08/27/2004 7:03:26 PM PDT by Freebird Forever (Diversity is divisive)
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To: uncbob

Would you vote twice for bush?

No.


38 posted on 08/27/2004 7:05:14 PM PDT by Good.V.Evil
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To: WhiteGuy

"Would you vote twice for bush"


With the amount of outright fraud that was committed in 2000, and what is likely to be this year by the socialist party. YES (if I knew I could get by with it)


39 posted on 08/27/2004 7:06:14 PM PDT by Damagro
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To: WhiteGuy

If you were a strong bush supporter, and you owned a vacation home in a different state, and you could register to vote in your "second home state" without abandoning your original home state's registration....................


Problem is, the state I live in is solidly Bush. The same goes for most states I'd have a vacation home in


40 posted on 08/27/2004 7:09:20 PM PDT by Damagro
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To: Agrarian
I recall seeing laughing college students on the telly (from Wisconsin?) saying they voted 4 and 5 times for Gore that day. They weren't challenged, and many of them did it. There were stories of church buses taking people to vote after church on the Sunday before the election (black churches). Where was the outcry in the face of such blatant disregard for the law?

There's a current article here on FR the last couple of days where college students in Arizona plan on registering to vote in AZ. They can vote absentee in their home state from a month to 3 months before the election, then register in their college state a mere 3-4 weeks before Election Day and go vote at the polls. (OF course these students say they're for Kerry...Kerry must win at all costs.)

The notion of it being unlawful to have to prove you are who you say you are when you show up to vote is ludicrous...this is one of the most important things a citizen can do, and it's "illegal" to try to prevent fraud. Why NOT require a photo ID, link databases with SSN or DL identification nationwide, and have very harsh penalties for voter fraud? Because it might offend an illegal immigrant who registered through motor voter? Because it might make it more difficult for RATS to perpetuate rigged election results? Bah! It's infuriating to see the groundwork being laid for yet another orchestrated stuffing of the ballot box and not even a stern look being offered to the breathless braggarts. (My .02)

41 posted on 08/27/2004 7:10:13 PM PDT by shezza (God bless the Swiftees -- they're risking it all to defend their country AGAIN!)
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To: Damagro

"(if I knew I could get by with it)"

Stepping from the hypothetical into the real world, let's consider that, in most states, the actual list of registered voters is only slightly different than a telemarketing company's phone list.

Thanks for an honest answer.


42 posted on 08/27/2004 7:13:32 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Damagro

"Problem is, the state I live in is solidly Bush. The same goes for most states I'd have a vacation home in"

So, if the state in question were not up for grabs, the answer would be "NO".

Sounds reasonable.


43 posted on 08/27/2004 7:17:34 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Good.V.Evil

And not a damn case prosecuted, I bet.


44 posted on 08/27/2004 7:21:59 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: Good.V.Evil
If they could just stop voter fraud, Pres. Bush would win by a land slide.

This is why it is so critically important to control state legislatures and especially the Justcic Department, including the FBI. And this is also a big reason why the rats are so scared to death that Bush will win reelection.

The reasoning is easy:
GOP Justice Department = vote fraud gets investigated and prosecuted.
Rat Justice Department = vote fraud gets enabled, covered up, and rampant.

45 posted on 08/27/2004 7:26:01 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dfwgator

And if my aunt had...



And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumped.

Wonder how much these double (and triple?) registrations connect to the "low voter turnout"?????


46 posted on 08/27/2004 7:26:55 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: StACase

If you had 800 outstanding warrants you would not want to show an ID either....:)


47 posted on 08/27/2004 7:28:35 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: StACase

The Wisconsin legislature passed a voter ID bill, and Governor Doyle (D) vetoed it. Gee, I wonder why!

How many of the leftist students at the Madison U of W are registered and are voting double for the Dems.? How many students are on that campus now? 60,000+++? This is the same state that was offering cigarettes to homeless voters in Milwaukee in the last election. Only SOME got caught.

There is another big area of possible double registrations and voters, The homeless.


48 posted on 08/27/2004 7:30:36 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: texgal

This makes me physically ill. Dear G-d, something has to be done about this.


49 posted on 08/27/2004 7:34:41 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: Agrarian

Actually, I read an article on FR recently about attempts to investigate voter fraud in FL. Of course, the article (a column or perhaps editorial from NY Times) was very much against it, and called it "voter suppression" aimed at keeping blacks from voting.


50 posted on 08/27/2004 7:53:33 PM PDT by Restorer
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