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Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John Lehman)
Sun Times ^ | August 28, 2004 | Thomas Lipscomb

Posted on 08/28/2004 7:30:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief

August 28, 2004

BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB

Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.

"It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.

The additional language varied from the two previous citations, signed first by Adm. Elmo Zumwalt and then Adm. John Hyland, which themselves differ. The new material added in the Lehman citation reads in part: "By his brave actions, bold initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty, Lieutenant (jg) Kerry reflected great credit upon himself...."

Asked how the citation could have been executed over his signature without his knowledge, Lehman said: "I have no idea. I can only imagine they were signed by an autopen." The autopen is a device often used in the routine execution of executive documents in government.

Kerry senior adviser Michael Meehan could not be reached for comment on Kerry's records.

Thomas Lipscomb is chairman of the Center for the Digital Future in New York


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
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To: dennisw

Drip, drip, drip, drip is the sound of truth slowly but surely eroding the foundation that Kerry has been standing on since he stabbed our Nam Vets in the back.


821 posted on 08/29/2004 5:24:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: BJungNan

The reason, we are not hearing this story on the MSM is their promise to Kerry before all of this started coming out.

That promise was don't worry about the SwiftVets, their book and tv commercials, we will handle this by ignoring it. (Actual wording was in a FR post weeks ago, by MSM key people to Kerry's key people.)


822 posted on 08/29/2004 5:26:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Lady Jag

Kerry is saying stay away from:

1. My FBI files
2. My Navy records
3. My Senate record
4. Whatever I have said in the past to curry votes and $'s.
5. Just stay away from my past.


823 posted on 08/29/2004 5:30:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: crushelits

Thanks for reposting that link.

That article set the stage for this article.

Now, this whole medal thing stinks more than it did before, which was really rank.


824 posted on 08/29/2004 5:32:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Ben Hecks

Sanders and Crowe are two potentially bad actors in the past in this mess.


825 posted on 08/29/2004 5:34:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Now that is great!

Please put it into your great graphic art sagas of Moi Kerri, and use it often.


826 posted on 08/29/2004 5:35:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Prince Charles; Travis McGee; Fracas

"The purple prose on Lurch's Purple Heart citations should also be gone over with a fine tooth comb again..."

A lot of us feel that Lurch with his handy dandy personal typewriter in Nam was the Purple Prose writer for those Purple Heart Citations.


827 posted on 08/29/2004 5:38:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: ActiveDutyUSMC

I see you've only been here for a week or so, and you've already contributed more than most Freepers in a lifetime. Welcome!

As for the signatures, I've assumed from the beginning that the 2 Lehman cites were issued at the same time and by autopen. You seem to have established that the autopen suspicion is correct. Thanks.

We've been slowly nudging this ball down the field for 5 months. I don't see how we can go much further without a release of the files. If only Lehman would go public and (loudly) request that Kerry release them. If there's a paper trail, it will reveal whatever reason Kerry gave to justify the new-and-improved citations in the 80's...and we'll have a field day with it. If the paper trail isn't there, then someone inside the Dept. of Navy conspired with Kerry to use the autopen and issue new citations.

Until we know that, it seems to me we're at a dead-end.


828 posted on 08/29/2004 5:39:24 AM PDT by Timeout (“If John Kerry loses, it will be the parade we never had.”--Anonymous Vietnam Vet)
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To: Republican Wildcat

"The music that plays after a contestant loses on the Price Is Right comes to mind."

That sounds like great sound effects for our freepers when they freep this POS. Have boombox booming that music out during any freep of the serial liar.


829 posted on 08/29/2004 5:40:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: AFPhys; backhoe; Ernest_at_the_Beach; piasa; Shermy; Peach; Miss Marple; Cindy

Thanks for collecting these posts and replies.

I'm pinging some of the good indexers on FR.

Friday night I told some friends that this is like pressure cooker that has been simmering for 3 decades re Kerry's serial lying and acts of treason.

The pressure cooker is too hot now for Kerry and the DNC to cool off, and we now have control of the heat of the stove. Each article like this turns the heat up a little more on that pressure cooker filled with the truth about the serial liar for 3 decades.

Personally, I think that the Swift Vets have even more damaging material to release. This article shows that more people are getting involved.

There is no way for the MSM arm of the DNC to control this anymore.


830 posted on 08/29/2004 5:47:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

What a great job. This deserves its own thread. Please post it for general use and documentation as a new thread.

Please ping the people below and me:

backhoe, piasa,fl engineer, tex kat, ernest at the beach, john huang2, ron dog, alohoa ronnie, peach, howlin, miss marple, AFPhys


831 posted on 08/29/2004 5:52:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: RottiBiz

This article and what you cited from the book, puts the pressure on Komrade Kerry's Kamp.


832 posted on 08/29/2004 5:53:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: John Jorsett

Otto Pen looks like the typical brainless lib in California!:)


833 posted on 08/29/2004 5:55:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Chaguito

The so called reporters who get a paycheck from the MSM are paid to never investigate the real stories like this one.

If they dared to investigate, their editors/publishers would spike their stories and fire them.


834 posted on 08/29/2004 5:57:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: redrock

This whole medal saga is getting very, very, very interesting for us and becoming a nightmare for the MSM arm of the DNC.


835 posted on 08/29/2004 5:58:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Grampa Dave
NY Post lead editorial today:
KERRY'S WAR VS. KERRY

Former Navy Secretary John Lehman denied at week's end having written the Silver Star citation that appears on John Kerry's campaign Web site over Lehman's signature, dealing the Democrat's presidential campaign another stunning blow.

Which makes us wonder: Does Kerry still believe that running on his Vietnam will gain him the White House?

Kerry's Silver Star is the most prestigious of his Vietnam decorations — it's the nation's third-highest for combat valor — but there are at least three official versions of how he earned it.

Former Navy Secretary John Leh man denied at week's end having written the Silver Star citation that appears on John Kerry's campaign Web site over Lehman's signature, dealing the Democrat's presidential campaign another stunning blow.

Which makes us wonder: Does Kerry still believe that running on his Vietnam will gain him the White House?

Kerry's Silver Star is the most prestigious of his Vietnam decorations — it's the nation's third-highest for combat valor — but there are at least three official versions of how he earned it.

The most recent — and the one with the most florid rhetoric — allegedly was signed by Lehman. But the former Navy secretary told the Chicago Sun-Times Friday: "I never saw it. I never signed it it. I never approved it."

Nevertheless, there it is on Kerry's Web site, over Lehman's signature.

It's a bewilderment, to put it mildly.

And the beat goes on....the ediorial continues to discuss the Combat "V", Schachte, etc.
836 posted on 08/29/2004 6:02:05 AM PDT by Timeout (“If John Kerry loses, it will be the parade we never had.”--Anonymous Vietnam Vet)
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To: Peach

Lets repost your warning and challenge to all good conservatives:

"Thank you for all you are doing on this matter. We cannot let Kerry win. It is unthinkable.

"I am reading Ben Stein's book "Can America Survive" and he is appalled at the leftists in this country and fears a civil war is brewing. I don't consider him an alarmist either. He worries where it will all end.

"This is the time to do EVERYTHING we can do to ensure a second Bush presidency. This means sending e-mails and interesting articles to friends and people in our address books. Volunteer to register voters; drive elderly people to the voting booths; donate $$.

"Make sure that your leftist friends know just who John stinkin' Kerry is. We must not let our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan be treated poorly!"



I know that I will never be able to change the minds of the lunatic left, so my mission with them is to make them even more insane.

When they start ranting at this, I tell them to go to hell. That their decades of controlling the media and crushing the truth are over. We will smash their Komrade Kerry this November and then their party the next 4 years.

They just stare or go into an insane rant. I just smile at them and leave.



837 posted on 08/29/2004 6:02:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

"Liberals are by definition living in a fantasy world (Utopia on Earth courtesy of the State) and thus will NEVER, EVER let facts dissuade them from their preconceived opinions. The battle is of course for the mushy middle ground, as it has always been."

When more conservatives wake up and realize this, we will have more victories.

Last but not least we do have a daily battle with the various liars and parts of the MSM. We must expose their lies/spins and phoney mantras each day to erode the MSM's credibility with the middle. Free Republic offers us the best weapon/vehicle to do that each day.


838 posted on 08/29/2004 6:05:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: BRO68

Thanks.

This is what I have told some older vets, the old democrats.

Their love for Kerry is allowing him to continue to urinate on the legitimate medals earned by their generation and the ones before them. When they start to argue, I conclude, "You, know that I'm right. Kerry is urinating on everything your generation sacrificed for us!"


839 posted on 08/29/2004 6:08:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Grampa Dave

Good tactic! There is no changing their minds so just drive them nuts. LOL


840 posted on 08/29/2004 6:10:04 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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