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Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John Lehman)
Sun Times ^ | August 28, 2004 | Thomas Lipscomb

Posted on 08/28/2004 7:30:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief

August 28, 2004

BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB

Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.

"It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.

The additional language varied from the two previous citations, signed first by Adm. Elmo Zumwalt and then Adm. John Hyland, which themselves differ. The new material added in the Lehman citation reads in part: "By his brave actions, bold initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty, Lieutenant (jg) Kerry reflected great credit upon himself...."

Asked how the citation could have been executed over his signature without his knowledge, Lehman said: "I have no idea. I can only imagine they were signed by an autopen." The autopen is a device often used in the routine execution of executive documents in government.

Kerry senior adviser Michael Meehan could not be reached for comment on Kerry's records.

Thomas Lipscomb is chairman of the Center for the Digital Future in New York


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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

"Kerry has three versions of his citation for his Silver Star? How can this be explained?"

Serial liars who write up their own commendations will have different versions.


841 posted on 08/29/2004 6:10:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: beyond the sea

"Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John Lehman)---

"Isn't this sweet!!!!!?????"

Before this mess is over, we will probably read and hear about a whole lot of Sweetness for our side. For Komrade Kerry and his Kamp, it will be like trying to drink aged vinegar.


842 posted on 08/29/2004 6:12:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: editor-surveyor

How are you doing.

""Well, no this is starting to get very interesting."

"But not in any way surprising."

Not to those of us who have followed Kerry for decades, and definitely not the SwiftVets who really knew the real Kerry.


843 posted on 08/29/2004 6:13:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: FL_engineer

Thanks.

I have a female relative back in the midwest, who is a lurker here on FR. She read that article yesterday in the Chicago Sun Times and sent me several emails before I even woke up.

As soon as I read them, I went to the link she provided and posted it.

I wasn't on the board yesterday afternool to respond to replies and this thread has over 800 replies from our good Freeper Buddies.


844 posted on 08/29/2004 6:16:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; Grampa Dave

That table is indeed worthy of a standalone post. Dave, thanks for the heads-up... somebody let me know when it's posted, and I'll send it out to the usual suspects in 'netland.


845 posted on 08/29/2004 6:18:44 AM PDT by backhoe (2 Americas- Producers, and the Parasites that feed on them...)
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To: 4woodenboats

"I sure had alot of fun with this one at today's Tacoma Dome Kerry Rally. I literally told thousands of people about it, right after I asked them to look at Kerry's voting record printed out in black and white on my poster.

What a great day!!"

Great for you. I think that we can turn the moderate/independents with a sense of morality and outrage to our side.

Also, there are lot of Nam Vets, who, will wake up and join us as this data comes.

One person on my email list has printed out copies of the story on a single sheet of paper to hand out and mail out.


846 posted on 08/29/2004 6:19:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Thanks for reposting Jim's Thread.

Would you please post the link to Jim's thread on this thread. Thanks.


847 posted on 08/29/2004 6:20:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: DoughtyOne

"Sounds like Kerry believed it, when he read his own press briefings in the early 1970s. Then he got to the point that he thought he could just make things up as it goes, including Silver Stars."

He got by with this BS thanks to the left wing MSM that allowed him to lie in the Senate meeing and on his road trips of treason.

When the MSM becomes the media arm of the DNC, there is no control over the lying rat politicians. So rats like Kerry are allowed to become dangerous serial liars. He has been in bed with the Boston Globus Hystericus, the NY Slimes and the Washington Compost for over 3 decades. This is why they are spiking these stories. They will be as damaged as Kerry is when all of this comes out.


848 posted on 08/29/2004 6:23:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: calcowgirl; Fracas; AFPhys; backhoe; FL_engineer; Shermy; Peach; Travis McGee; Jim Robinson; ...

This is a great find. Please post this as a separate thread.

"Fracus pointed out that, his long time Wade R. Sanders, who was a river boat guy, also, served as an Asst Sec of the Navy. One can only imagine what was done to records under his watch.

Check out the following article written by Wade Sanders titled "MEDALS NOT AWARDED". Apparently he is still in the business of getting medals awarded after-the-fact. He was offering free legal services to vets through a San Diego clinic as early as the 1980's (according to a 1988 article in the San Diego Union Tribune).

http://home.planetcomm.net/StableAble17/newsletters/april04_3.html
(snip)

This former enlisted man had stood by that officer in the same combat, exposed himself to the same risk, was part of the same team that prevailed, and his officer left him behind with nothing but a Purple Heart. To my mind this is a terrible injustice.

Since I belong to an association of those who served in Navy patrol boats in Vietnam, I decided to see if I could improve the situation. After all, the one mantra that was ingrained into me by my father, and by the traditions of my service, was that my number one responsibility as an officer is to take care of my men (or women, to be contemporarily correct).

So, I did a bit of research and discovered that there is no statute of limitations on awards. I found the office in the Pentagon that deals with awards, and I got the guidance I needed. The process is simple. An officer in charge of a unit is fully authorized to recommend any member of his "command" for a military decoration.


849 posted on 08/29/2004 6:29:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: calcowgirl; Fracas; backhoe; Peach; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy; FL_engineer; MeekOneGOP; piasa; ...

Whenever a Swift Vet or some on our side tries to get the truth out about Kerry, the rats and the MSM will immediately say they are Republican flacks or worse.

Well, one of Kerry's big supporters in this mess, Wade R. Sanders has a life long record of supporting the rats.

Thanks to Fracas, we have this data re Sander's contribution history.

Sanders
From Fracas | 08/28/2004 11:07:05 AM PDT read





From the earlier thread today w/r/t Wade Sanders, I did a quick - very quick - check and found these links and contributions. I will be gone until later tonight, so feel free to use any or all of this as you see fit.

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92101
ZYBELMAN PALUSO ET AL
10/7/1989
$250
Cranston, Alan

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92101
ZYBELMAN PALUSO ALTER GRAHAM & SCEP
3/31/1990
$500
Georgiou, Byron Stephen

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92101
11/6/1992
$500
Clinton, Bill

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92101
PALUSO ALTER GRAHAM & SCE
5/8/1992
$500
Kerry, John

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92101
PALUSO ALTER GRAHAM & SCE
8/28/1992
$500
Kerry, John

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92101
SELF-EMPLOYED
1/14/1992
$250
Kerrey, Bob

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
10/2/1992
($100)
Clinton, Bill

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
ATTORNEY
5/15/1992
$900
Clinton, Bill

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
ZYBELMAN, PALUSO, ALTER, ET AL
10/15/1992
$500
Schenk, Lynn

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92101
ZYBELMAN, PALUSO ET AL
3/5/1993
$500
Schenk, Lynn

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92101
PALUSO ALTER GRAHAM & SCE
2/8/1993
$500
Kerry, John

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
SECRETARY OF THE NAVY
9/23/1994
$500
Schenk, Lynn

SANDERS, WADE R
WASHINGTON,DC 20350
NAVY DEPT
5/1/1995
$250
Clinton, Bill

SANDERS, WADE ROWLAND
WASHINGTON,DC 20350
CLINTON ADMINISTRATION
8/29/1995
$500
Kerry, John

SANDERS, WADE R
ARLINGTON,VA 22202
DEPT OF THE NAVY
3/3/1997
$250
Filner, Bob

SANDERS, WADE ROWLAND
WASHINGTON,DC 20350
DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY
4/9/1997
$500
Kerry, John

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
DEPT OF THE NAVY
2/22/1999
$250
Filner, Bob

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
ATTORNEY
2/11/2000
$1,000
Davis, Susan A

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
ATTORNEY
9/17/2002
$500
Kerry, John

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
SELF-EMPLOYED/ATTORNEY
4/25/2002
$500
Skelton, Ike

SANDERS, WADE R
SAN DIEGO,CA 92104
ATTORNEY
9/17/2002
$500
Kerry, John

Some links.

Appointed to a committee by OUR guy – Principi.

http://www1.va.gov/OPA/pressrel/docs/rac.doc

A ‘military expert’ working for NBC. Well, well.

http://www.military.com/NewContent/1%2C13190%2CSanders_072803%2C00.html

And here…on a ‘Veterans for Boxer’ list. LOL.

http://www.boxer2004.org/releases/vetsforboxer.pdf

Anyone want to comment on this article from Sanders…about ‘heroes’?

http://images.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Sanders_121603,00.html

I don’t know what to make of this. I don’t have time to check out the site, but the quotes from Sanders are very interesting.

http://www.nojohnkerry.org/kerryhtml/sandersemail.htm


850 posted on 08/29/2004 6:41:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Ronin

"For something involving a Silver Star citation for a powerful Senator, I am sure that Lehman would definitely remember it -- if it had actually crossed his desk."

Or at least he would have been notified by his staff.

Your point was brought up this weekend by another conservative while discussing this mess.


851 posted on 08/29/2004 6:43:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Dolphy
You have a great summary of what is going on here outside Kerry and his Kamp followers: "

I think it could be deeper than that. This could well come down to leftists, "hard leftists and proud of it" and the vets and the rest who aren't proud they were duped (as you say). What resonates with many of us who came of age after Viet Nam are the parallels between the current war and its protesters and Kerry's lying before the Senate and meeting with Communists. Lying about medals is a Clinton like manipulation but providing aid and comfort to the enemy, lying before the people of this country at the expense of our military and turning our ideals and values (however wrongheaded the situation) to make us the enemy of freedom is unforgivable. And it most certainly is not a 30+ year old irrelevancy for a country at war.

"</b?The media has reluctantly covered Kerry's service exaggerations but the meat of this matter, for many of us, is what came after. They of course don't want to go there. They are largely made up of those whose world-view was shaped by Viet Nam. These are the same people who yelled quagmire one hour after we attacked the Taliban, these are the same people who find more truth in an atrocity or failure in Iraq than a success.

John Kerry has had almost his entire adult life to come to grips with his anti-war activities. His record shows us that he never did, he did not come to value our military strength, he did not come to denounce anti-American forces, he did not come to apologize for the harm he inflicted.

852 posted on 08/29/2004 6:46:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: supercat

"Many mechanical typewriters were subtly unique. Unfortunately, carbon paper doesn't convey impressions all that well, and poor scans make things even worse, but I wonder if analysis of physical documents or high-resolution scans thereof would show that some documents were produced by Kerry's typewriter that, logically speaking, should not have been."

I have the feeling that we may find out the answers to your questions in the weeks to come.


853 posted on 08/29/2004 6:48:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: ActiveDutyUSMC

By the way, thanks for your service and welcome to Free Republic.

Your comparisons of the signatures will be seen by others.


854 posted on 08/29/2004 6:50:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: fuzzy122

I see a different plane.

I see an old WWI biwing Germany plane slowly going down with smoke coming from the engines and surrounded by our fighter planes of that area just having a great day.


855 posted on 08/29/2004 6:51:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Timeout

Please post this great editorial as separate thread and ping me.

My time today on FR will be short.

This editorial needs its own thread and legs.

Thanks.


856 posted on 08/29/2004 6:55:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Grampa Dave

BTTT, Fun Bump...


857 posted on 08/29/2004 6:56:20 AM PDT by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: LowOiL

Thanks!

This article and thread have been fun for us.

It probably meant no sleep for Komrade Kerri's Kamp once the Chicago Sun Times hit the street, and this thread was spotted by Lannie Davis's boy friends who monitor everything on FR.


858 posted on 08/29/2004 6:59:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: MeekOneGOP; backhoe; Peach; Fracas; calcowgirl; AFPhys; Ernest_at_the_Beach; JohnHuang2; ...
Thanks to MeekoneGop, we have the perfect picture of le Jacquestap moi Kerri, the great medal winner of the DNC. He probably has another 100 medals on the back of his dress uniform.


859 posted on 08/29/2004 7:06:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for your series of threads where we get to catch Kerry in another lie or oral misshap with his very large feet.


860 posted on 08/29/2004 7:14:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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