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Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief (John Lehman)
Sun Times ^ | August 28, 2004 | Thomas Lipscomb

Posted on 08/28/2004 7:30:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

Kerry citation a 'total mystery' to ex-Navy chief

August 28, 2004

BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB

Former Navy Secretary John Lehman has no idea where a Silver Star citation displayed on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's campaign Web site came from, he said Friday. The citation appears over Lehman's signature.

"It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me," he said.

The additional language varied from the two previous citations, signed first by Adm. Elmo Zumwalt and then Adm. John Hyland, which themselves differ. The new material added in the Lehman citation reads in part: "By his brave actions, bold initiative, and unwavering devotion to duty, Lieutenant (jg) Kerry reflected great credit upon himself...."

Asked how the citation could have been executed over his signature without his knowledge, Lehman said: "I have no idea. I can only imagine they were signed by an autopen." The autopen is a device often used in the routine execution of executive documents in government.

Kerry senior adviser Michael Meehan could not be reached for comment on Kerry's records.

Thomas Lipscomb is chairman of the Center for the Digital Future in New York


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To: Grampa Dave
Don't have time to read all the responses and see if this has been posted: Puzzling Silver Star Citations has all three one one page.
901 posted on 08/29/2004 10:28:43 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Travis McGee
The typewriter comparison may be even simpler than that. If the Navy was using all IBM Selectrics in 1968, and Kerry's "source documents" were typed on a Smith Corona or Royal, for example, he will have some explainging to do.

Indeed. Though since Selectrics were rather heavy (and of course required electricity), I would expect some people in the field would have lightweight portables. But brand-matching could be interesting.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that the Lehman citations were clearly not done on a conventional typewriter? I wonder if that fact could help date them?

902 posted on 08/29/2004 11:25:28 AM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: devolve
THANKS FOR THE PING

903 posted on 08/29/2004 11:35:45 AM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Grampa Dave

New York Post editorial here

KERRY'S WAR VS. KERRY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1202442/posts


904 posted on 08/29/2004 11:40:28 AM PDT by Timeout (“If John Kerry loses, it will be the parade we never had.”--Anonymous Vietnam Vet)
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To: supercat
The two Lehman citations on Kerry's web sites bear signatures that are absolutely identical to each other (superimpose one on the other and they fit perfectly).

Thank you!!!!!!!

905 posted on 08/29/2004 11:42:13 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Grampa Dave
Kerry is saying stay away from:

1. My FBI files
2. My Navy records
3. My Senate record
4. Whatever I have said in the past to curry votes and $'s.
5. Just stay away from my past.


6. My wife's tax returns
7. My wife's estate planning and charitable foundations
906 posted on 08/29/2004 12:24:11 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Grampa Dave

" Thanks for reposting Jim's Thread.

Would you please post the link to Jim's thread on this thread. Thanks."

I don't know what I do wrong, but, my FR links never work.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1201491/posts

If the link is a dud, the title of the thread was :

"Flashback: 1996 - The Boston Globe: The making of the candidates: JOHN FORBES KERRY
The Boston Globe ^ | October 6, 1996 | By Charles Sennott, Globe Staff
Posted on 08/27/2004 10:07:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

There's one sentence in the article which gets missed by quickly scanning the long piece.
But, it jumped out at me-especially since it validates what the SBVFT said about Kerry and the Zippo.
Kerry shows the Globe reporter his Vietnam home movies and Sennott wrote:
" ... the film showed soldiers dousing gasoline on huts in a small village before setting them on fire."
Kerry talks to the reporter about the sickly sweet smell of the burning wood.
Another scene from Kerry's home movie :
" There is Kerry in cutoff shorts working on his suntan next to a Viet Cong prisoner bound and blindfolded."
I'm sure Kerry had a lot to say about Abu Grhaib.






907 posted on 08/29/2004 12:30:51 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
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To: calcowgirl

PURPLE HEART #3
Confirmation Letter - not a Citation.
Date (stamp) 17 April 1969
Injuries 13 March 1969
..."Gold Star in lieu of a third Purple Heart..."
/s/ (stamp) Donald A. Still, Chief Staff Officer

He was already back in the US of A. on 17 April. Did he get his ticket to the real world before he got his medal? Then we know he got kicked out.




908 posted on 08/29/2004 1:23:34 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Proud to be a FReeper)
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To: Grampa Dave
Us too.

I am surprised about who is coming up to me to tell me all about the Swiftvets.

People who have never talked politics to me before.
909 posted on 08/29/2004 1:34:29 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

Have any other news media outlets picked up this story yet?


910 posted on 08/29/2004 1:58:27 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thank you, and thank you to everyone who has commented.

I know the reelection of President Bush is important to everyone here, but it is especially important to me and the Marines who I serve with. Should Kerry win we will be compelled to follow the orders of a man with a questionable conscious, dubious character and a penchant for selling out those around him for personal gain. I cannot stand around idly and take that chance. This is my small contribution to the effort; if it helps in any way to defeat Kerry, then I am glad to be of assistance. I'll continue lurking about and helping where I can.

Best regards to all.


911 posted on 08/29/2004 2:17:15 PM PDT by ActiveDutyUSMC (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. (Edmund Burke))
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To: Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP
Classic. Thanks.


912 posted on 08/29/2004 2:44:32 PM PDT by ActiveDutyUSMC (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. (Edmund Burke))
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To: ActiveDutyUSMC
hehe! Glad you liked that one. :^D

And welcome to FreeRepublic.com!


913 posted on 08/29/2004 3:57:18 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: gc4nra

Don't know yet. I have been too busy to find out yet.


914 posted on 08/29/2004 4:12:33 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: ScottFromSpokane
??!!

Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?

Is John Lehman the same person who was on the 9/11 panel with Jamie Gore-lick???
915 posted on 08/29/2004 4:29:31 PM PDT by danamco
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To: devolve

The Wild Blue Yonder!


916 posted on 08/29/2004 4:31:57 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: devolve

LOL, Kerry's little home was quite a busy place!!


917 posted on 08/29/2004 4:34:11 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Don't officials need to approve documents for signing by autopen?

Maybe it is kinda like The Medallion Stamp, it depends on the individual who has been issued the stamp or has control over its use.

Money and/or sweet talk can sometime override honesty and/or wisdom!

918 posted on 08/29/2004 4:41:34 PM PDT by VOYAGER (!)
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To: ActiveDutyUSMC

Again thanks for your past, current and future service to America and Americans.

I can't of anything worse than to serve under the Clintoon or Kerry.

We need to make sure to keep GW as our President and CIC.

Our current active duty military may be the best that we have ever had, and that is what we need in the WOT. Lets return GW and give you and other active duty warriors more support and more of what it takes to get your job done.

We welcome you as a positive contributor to Free Republic.


919 posted on 08/29/2004 5:49:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: TomGuy

And this is the future of America!


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920 posted on 08/29/2004 5:58:48 PM PDT by Red Barr (Kerry's supporters)
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