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WHEN THE KILLERS COME FOR THE KIDS
NYPOST ^ | September 4, 2004 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 09/04/2004 8:00:04 AM PDT by jolie560

THE mass murder of children revolts the human psyche. Herod sending his henchmen to massacre the infants of Bethlehem haunts the Gospels. Nothing in our time was crueler than what the Germans did to children during the Holocaust. Slaughtering the innocents violates a universal human taboo. Or a nearly universal one. Those Muslims who preach Jihad against the West decided years ago that killing Jewish or Christian children is not only acceptable, but pleasing to their god when done by "martyrs."

It isn't politically correct to say this, of course. We're supposed to pretend that Islam is a "religion of peace." All right, then: It's time for Muslims to stand up for the once-noble, nearly lost traditions of their faith and condemn what Arab and Chechen terrorists and blasphemers did in the Russian town of Beslan.

If Muslim religious leaders around the world will not publicly condemn the taking of children as hostages and their subsequent slaughter — if those "men of faith" will not issue a condemnation without reservations or caveats — then no one need pretend any longer that all religions are equally sound and moral.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; cairsilentonchechnya; islam; murder; muslims; ossetia; ralphpeters; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; whereiscair
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To: Diogenesis

great cartoon. were I more computer literate, I'd post one I have of a turbin wearin' guy at a suicide bomber class
saying ,"watch closely, I'm only going to show you this once"...


101 posted on 09/04/2004 12:49:38 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece-DO NOT DISTURB Occupant is disturbed enough already)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Wrong.

When our Government Fails to do It's job it is our Duty to
do it for ourselves.

Vigilante justice is at times necessary.

If it makes you uncomfortable Become a police officer.

My Dad had a good saying "Crap or get off the Pot!"


102 posted on 09/04/2004 12:52:31 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: jolie560

A gut-wrenching story of "Sophie's Choice", at:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&e=14&u=/latimests/killerssettermsamotherchooses


103 posted on 09/04/2004 12:57:23 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: LtKerst

In other words, those with the courage to condemn the acts of terrorists will do little more than receive your scorn, and the terrorists' anger.

Nice job, reward someone brave enough to speak out against terrorists and place their lives in danger for doing so, with contempt.

Then you wonder why more don't do it.


104 posted on 09/04/2004 2:47:45 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: LtKerst

Are you pro-life, or pro-choice?


105 posted on 09/04/2004 2:50:31 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: LtKerst
First you terrorize your opponents into silence so that your movement appears to have no opposition. This gives you tremendous power, not only because moderates quietly feel they are alone in their disagreement with you, but also because the ignorant media – especially the foreign media – casts you as the choice of the people. Having succeeded in silencing moderates, the next step is terrorizing them into cooperating with you. Soon passive cooperation is not enough. You want more than their body – you want their soul, so you terrorize the moderates into being "passionate" in your cause.

In the end, your movement appears to have only loyal and active supporters. Now you are in total control, for who would dare speak out against you? As Hitler said, 10 years before he finally rose to power, "The National Socialist Movement will in the future ruthlessly prevent – if necessary by force – all meetings or lectures that are likely to distract the minds of our fellow countrymen." In other words, all opposition is evil and we will protect you from it.

Sound familiar?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24656

You are an enabler to the terrorist's agenda.

106 posted on 09/04/2004 2:53:45 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Who is urging pacifism?

I am against becoming monsters to fight monsters.

Did we burn Nazis alive in ovens or gas them after WWII?

No, we did not, those left alive were brought to justice.

Anyone who reads what I have to say, and sees the words of a pacifist, is an intentional fool.


107 posted on 09/04/2004 2:56:17 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: jolie560
Excellent piece by Ralph Peters!

If Muslim religious leaders around the world will not publicly condemn the taking of children as hostages and their subsequent slaughter — if those "men of faith" will not issue a condemnation without reservations or caveats — then no one need pretend any longer that all religions are equally sound and moral.

When will the 21st Century Crusades begin?
108 posted on 09/04/2004 3:09:55 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Westbrook

Actually, Herod was a Jew- albeit from a Jordanian-based desert tribe that was forcibly converted. He also married Mariamne- a descendant of the Jewish ruling nobility- and then slaughtered her family- to bolster his legitimacy to rule the land of the Jews.


109 posted on 09/04/2004 3:10:04 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: jolie560
It's good to see that mainstream media is beginning to recognize reality.

Now, just one more little step - and we can start talking about methods to deal with is-slime in a highly proactive manner.

110 posted on 09/04/2004 3:12:25 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: silverleaf

Are Abe Foxman and Al Franken descended from that line?


111 posted on 09/04/2004 3:13:54 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Spanaway Lori

Sorry for such a delayed response. MSM means Main Stream Media.


112 posted on 09/04/2004 5:31:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Let's hear about your Senate record already, John!)
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To: WineGuy

Actually, this is WW IV.

We won WW III, from 1945-89. It was fought in many theatres, from Korea to Cuba to Berlin.

The current war is every bit as global.


113 posted on 09/04/2004 5:52:58 PM PDT by We Happy Few ("we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother;")
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To: ought-six

"The author said 'An attack on children is an attack on all humanity.' Truer words have never been spoken."

This line reminds me of how Woodrow Wilson characterized the German U-boat attacks against civilian ships in World War I. The massive loss of civilian life in the North Atlantic gave Wilson enough popular support to send troops to France, despite having won in 1916 on the theme of having kept the U.S. out of the war.


114 posted on 09/04/2004 5:59:23 PM PDT by We Happy Few ("we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother;")
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To: tarheelswamprat

Well said. If Muslims in general truly repudiate and denounce terrorism in the name of Islam we would know it. One thing our lefty press would not withhold from us is that. Yet we hear next to nothing. ROP fails the smell test.


115 posted on 09/04/2004 6:41:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Let's hear about your Senate record already, John!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; xzins
In your post #92, you challenged my post #88 where I quoted Ann Coulter's suggestion that we hunt down the terrorists, kill their leaders and convert their followers to Christianity.

You maintained that this action would be no different than the actions of the "Islamicists" who've just murdered several hundred children, laughing as their young victims passed out from dehydration and blood loss.

To which I reply you appear to be a man of little discernment.

Yours is the easy belief. It requires only vacuous judgment, sloppy insight and very little intelligence to say "everything's the same."

You can do better.

Go back and study the photos of the dead children. Hundreds of dead children.
116 posted on 09/05/2004 1:24:12 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Luis Gonzalez

Almighty God,

There is no power beyond Your power and no glory beyond Your glory. You truly are the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. Many attempt to reject Your glory, Your Son, and Your command, but it is they who pass away while You are from everlasting to everlasting.

Among those who have turned against You are those who this week murdered hundreds of school children in Russia. They are led by others involved with Al Qaeda and led by such men as Osama bin Laden and al Zawahiri his aide. We know, Lord God, that Your Son has said "Let the little children come unto me...for of such is the Kingdom of God." Likewise, Jesus has said that it would be better for those who injure the children if "a millstone were tied around their necks and they were cast into the sea."

It is clear that Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and its other leaders have now irrefutably, consciously targeted little children. They stripped them, abused them, and then murdered them.

We pray specifically for the soon capture or killing of the murderer Osama bin Laden. The blood of children cries to heaven from the earth.

Divinely guide those special warriors of our nation who look for him. Provide even more guidance to those believing warriors, Your Gideon's Army, who are in their ranks. Protect them from all their enemies, foreign and domestic, and guide them unerringly to this murderer, bin Laden and his aide, al Zawahiri.

We pray in the name of Jesus Christ; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Amen.


117 posted on 09/05/2004 3:34:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

That's right, I do challenge your post, I do not believe in forced conversions. Forced conversions is one of the tenets of extreme Islam.

If you favor forced conversions, you are no better than a Muslim extremist.

Let me ask you something...

Can you be forced to convert to Islam?

It's not that I am a man of little discernment, it is rather that you are a man of false Christianity.


118 posted on 09/05/2004 7:30:14 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"...we hunt down the terrorists, kill their leaders and convert their followers to Christianity."

You've just turned this into a world-wide war of religions. While Muslim extremists misrepresent the Qu'ran to their followers by telling them that in order to be a good Muslim, one must convert the infidels by force if necessary, the mainstream (90%) of Muslims understand that this is a false interpretation.

However, the Qu'ran does very specifically instruct the believers to fight to the death anyone who attacks Islam, and tries to forcefully convert them. So the moment that we begin forced conversions, you've declared war on all Muslims everywhere.

Coulter is wrong just as you are wrong.

Following yours and Coulter's advise will do little more than elevate this to an Apocalyptic scale.

119 posted on 09/05/2004 8:25:44 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; xzins; D Edmund Joaquin
forced conversions

I didn't say anything, nor did Coulter, about "forced" conversions. God converts whom He wills at His pleasure.

You are a man of false Christianity.

Wrong.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. -- Matthew 7:15-20.

"Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight,
The king snake will crawl,
Trees that've stood for a thousand years
Suddenly will fall...
He could be standing next to you,
The person that you'd notice least.
I hear that sometimes
Satan comes as a man of peace."

Bob Dylan -- "Man of Peace"

120 posted on 09/05/2004 10:47:11 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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