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Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers
WinterSoldier.com ^ | September 6, 2004 | Scott Swett

Posted on 09/06/2004 8:32:59 PM PDT by Interesting Times

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To: Bob J
In other words, not only did Kerry lie about his medals, not only did he lie about vets in Viet Nam, but he intimidated others into making the same lies.

He has also deceived the news media into lying for him:

Kerry Deceives News Media About His Navy Discharge on JohnKerry.com

181 posted on 09/07/2004 7:01:32 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Interesting Times; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; ...
Thank you for posting this. Everyone needs to see this, imho.

Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers

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On the second day of the conference, Pitkin was surrounded by a group of the event's leaders, who said they needed more witnesses and wanted him to speak. Pitkin protested that he didn’t have anything to say. Kerry said, "Surely you had to have seen some of the atrocities." Pitkin insisted that he hadn't, and the group's mood turned menacing. One of the other leaders leaned in and whispered, "It’s a long walk back to Baltimore." Pitkin finally agreed to "testify." The Winter Soldier leaders told Pitkin exactly what they wanted -– stories about rape, brutality, shooting prisoners, and racism. Kerry assured him that "the American people will be grateful for what you have to say."




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182 posted on 09/07/2004 7:08:59 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Pictures of JFKerry with his natural "black/brown" eye color, contrast that with all the pictures of him sporting "blue" and "green" eye color.


183 posted on 09/07/2004 7:11:11 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: All

"Surely you had to have seen some of the atrocities." Did Pitkin speak of atrocities? I couldn't find his statements on this.


184 posted on 09/07/2004 7:19:15 AM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian

During the Winter Soldier Investigation, John Kerry and other leaders of that event pressured me to testify about American war crimes, despite my repeated statements that I could not honestly do so. Kerry and other leaders of the event instructed me to publicly state that I had witnessed incidents of rape, brutality, atrocities and racism, knowing that such statements would necessarily be untrue. Found it!


185 posted on 09/07/2004 7:29:33 AM PDT by anglian
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To: JohnHuang2

Thanks for the ping!


186 posted on 09/07/2004 7:32:40 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Interesting Times; The Mayor; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; nutmeg; JohnHuang2

Thanks -- remarkable story and thread.

Thank you for your courage and your service, Steve Pitkin.


187 posted on 09/07/2004 7:32:43 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: RottiBiz

BTTT


188 posted on 09/07/2004 7:43:41 AM PDT by abner (http://www.swiftvets.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Interesting Times
May the Lord bless Steve Pitkin - not just for his recent affidavit, but for ultimately and distinctly standing up for his fellow veterans (of all wars) and his nation - and for everything that is decent - at a time when the easy and popular thing would have been for him to be an unceasing sycophant to the slanderers of our nation and of the men and women in the armed forces.

Steve Pitkin is a good man - and a free man: "...you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free" (John 8: 32,33).
189 posted on 09/07/2004 7:44:35 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: Interesting Times

BUMP!


190 posted on 09/07/2004 7:49:51 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

You need to see this...


191 posted on 09/07/2004 7:50:13 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209190/posts

FBI files thread


192 posted on 09/07/2004 7:54:06 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Interesting Times

God Damn John Kerry for ripping open all these wounds AGAIN. How many times will this slime damage the US in his attempt at personal gain?


193 posted on 09/07/2004 7:58:00 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Kozak

Sadly to Kerry & Co the end justifies the means.


194 posted on 09/07/2004 7:59:46 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: maica

Actually, the IRA leadership were Marxist to the core... And they trained in Soviet-sponsored "training camps" alongside such groups as Baeder-Meinhof, PLO, PLFP, JRA, Red Brigades, etc...


195 posted on 09/07/2004 8:02:47 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: MEG33

Thanks!


196 posted on 09/07/2004 8:03:33 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: Milligan
VVAW operated like a religious cult!

That's exactly right. They preyed on psychologically vulnerable people and demanded their allegiance to a group myth as penance for their "sins." No dissent was tolerated. They weren't simply liars; they also coerced and manipulated others to promote their lies.

197 posted on 09/07/2004 8:06:18 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Getting out the truth ~ Bump!


198 posted on 09/07/2004 8:08:28 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Interesting Times
Thanks for the ping about this. I have it posted on my website: IowaPresidentialWatch.com
199 posted on 09/07/2004 8:35:18 AM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I approved this message... 'tooning the truth!)
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To: Interesting Times; ActiveDutyUSMC; dakine; bkwells; chookter; Hacksaw434; thumperusn; Hostel; ...
John Kerry directly contributed to the lies of the anti war movement AND caused deaths and injuries
to US Military serving in Vietnam AND
directly caused deaths from injuries at home AND countless suicides because of his false testimony.

John Kerry is not fit to be elected dog catcher let alone President of the United States.
ANYONE who votes for Kerry AFTER knowing this data
is guilty of covering up John Kerry's war crimes!


John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War,
testified before special session the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
April 22, 1971

KERRY GAVE TESTIMONY BASED UPON FALSE INFORMATION
THAT KERRY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME TO BE FALSE!




September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam. After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...

My name is Steve Pitkin, age 20, from Baltimore. I served with the 9th Division from May of '69 until I was airvaced in July of '69. I'll testify about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel, destruction of villages, indiscriminate use of artillery, the general racism and the attitude of the American GI toward the Vietnamese. I will also talk about some of the problems of the GIs toward one another and the hassle with officers.

-- Steve Pitkin, Winter Soldier Investigation, February 1, 1971.


Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004

Steve Pitkin DD-214

Steve Pitkin WSI testimony

Steve Pitkin WSI video clips -- February 1, 1971 (4:16, 1.6MB)

John F. Kerry
Timeline of a traitor.
Click Here

200 posted on 09/07/2004 8:39:44 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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