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Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy (new John Fund book)
Stealing Elections (Amazon page) ^ | September 18th, 2004 | Travis McGee

Posted on 09/18/2004 11:28:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee

Freepers who helped to defeat the democrat election fraud in 2000 will want to obtain this new book by John Fund ASAP, in order to be ready for their tricks in November 2004.

I heard Fund on a radio talk show last week, briefly. He went into the scoop discovered on Free Republic in 2000, namely, how 15,000 Bush ballots were "spiked" in Palm Beach County. This was first discovered through statistical analysis by freeper Robert E. Cook, PE.

If you are not familiar with this method of vote fraud, here is how it was done: corrupt 'rat precincts held back their ballots in tight races, most flagrantly in Palm Beach County. At the last minute, stacks of ballots were "spiked" down the Gore hole. This did not change the Gore ballots, which already had their chads punched out in normal voting.

But every Bush vote was ruined, because with the Gore hole also knocked out (by the spike) it became an invalid double vote.

These 15,000 ruined Bush ballots were traced to certain corrupt late-reporting precincts. (The rest of the Republican candidates on these 15,000 ballots were not spiked or invalidated, leaving a clear trail of evidence of the 'rat fraud.)

This was exhaustively detailed here in late 2000, but in those days, an explosive scoop from Free Republic was simply unable to gain traction in the MSM, and the story languished and died.

I suggest that as many freepers as possible get hold of this book, first: for defense against many types of 'rat fraud in November, and second: in order to explain to people how the 'rats almost stole the election in Palm Beach in 2000 by "spiking" ballots.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 229; bookreview; electiontampering; johnfund; napalminthemorning; votefraud; voterfraud
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To: DaveMSmith
Why is this such a big deal? I bet that Freepers could come up with methods (plural) to deal with any method of voting and eliminate any sort of hanky panky.

Either at the precinct voting place or at the central counting area.

My solution? Instant Double entry: a tally at a central location and at the local voting place. If the central computer senses a deviation at any voting place, the entire crew is replaced instantly.
In addition a monitor can be placed at every voting place. If I go in, vote, and on my way out my candidate's count hasn't increased by at least one, I challenge the workers.

And of course, the most obvious deterrent. Give each party the right to have at least one observer at each polling place at all times, and accompanying the ballots to the central counting site.

Of course, the simplest and most obvious safeguard is to record the residential address of each vote by means of photo ID. If there are 842 votes from a single address... All business addresses would be automatically void.

101 posted on 09/19/2004 12:27:33 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: Grampa Dave
The major bookstore chains and lunatic lib owned locals have pulling this scam for at least a decade.

Yes you're right, and it's one of the worst, Anti-American, despicable things any institution can do! Look what they have tried to do with John O'Neill's 'Unfit for Command'!

And isn't it almost a crime that SeeBS, ABC, and NBC never have had John O'Neill on their morning shows, yet Kitty Litter Kelley gets great attention. It makes me want to puke!

102 posted on 09/19/2004 12:32:05 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: G.Mason

calvery should be cavalry


103 posted on 09/19/2004 12:32:54 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Travis McGee
Even the most spineless politicians should theoretically want to win, even if they stand for nothing else. If voter fraud is robbing us of elections, and there is not a firm, across-the-board response to this, then I can only come up with three explanations:

1. The GOP is doing their anti-fraud work by stealth, and don't want anyone to know about it.

2. The GOP is suicidal.

3. The extent of voter fraud is wildly exaggerated on forums like this -- and it is really not enough for the GOP to consider it worth the cost of dealing firmly with it.

104 posted on 09/19/2004 12:46:39 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: Agrarian

1. The GOP is doing their anti-fraud work by stealth, and don't want anyone to know about it.

I hope this is the case and I have suspected that they are working on it I can't believe Karl Rove would be taking this lying down.


105 posted on 09/19/2004 12:54:08 PM PDT by tommix2
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To: Travis McGee
You make a good point. It explains why local Republicans are unable to do anything.

That still doesn't explain the lack of a concerted nationwide response to the problem. I'm no political strategist, but it would seem that for the cost of a few major market TV ad buys, the GOP could train and fly in GOP lawyers, activists, truck drivers, ranchers... to hot spots. That's what the Dems did in the SD race on the Indian reservations last time around in the Senate.

My point, as always, is that the anger we all feel about voter fraud is futilely pointed in the wrong direction. We already know that the Dems will cheat without any sense of compunction, so griping at and about them won't do any good. Any solution is going to have to come from within the GOP leadership.

106 posted on 09/19/2004 12:55:36 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump


107 posted on 09/19/2004 1:05:47 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte. ~)
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To: Tailback
"calvery should be cavalry"

It should indeed.

A religious Freudian slip?

No ... just rushing things. ;)

My thanks.

108 posted on 09/19/2004 1:07:30 PM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: tommix2
I don't think the GOP is suicidal. Politicians want to win elections.

I also hope that it is being done by stealth, but it is also possible that they have done the political calculation that the treatment would be worse for us than the disease and have decided not to fight it in a major way.

In that is the case, then talk about massive fraud where we "really" won elections makes us look like the SoreLosermen with their "selected, not elected" talk...

109 posted on 09/19/2004 1:10:05 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: Travis McGee

bump


111 posted on 09/19/2004 1:21:58 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: DaveMSmith
Why did you post this in the wrong thread?
Of topic. I thought this thread is about stealing elections.
112 posted on 09/19/2004 1:37:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: DaveMSmith
Why did you post this crap in the wrong thread?
Do we still need propaganda from Saddam?
113 posted on 09/19/2004 1:40:28 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: Publius6961

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114 posted on 09/19/2004 1:51:04 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (<sup>DAVID MATTHEW WINSLOW [SMITH]: CEO: VRWC</sup>)
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To: Agrarian

but it is also possible that they have done the political calculation
Maybe the republicans have something to hide that we don't know about.


115 posted on 09/19/2004 1:55:15 PM PDT by tommix2
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

ROFL Tonk - you'll appresciate this... A KERRY campaigner came to our door this afternoon. We have a BUSH/CHENEY sign IN OUR YARD!!! He said "Hi, I'm so and so and I'm campaigning for Kerry. Hubby laughed and said "Well, we're voting for Bush!" He asked "strong supporter or just leaning?" Hubby said "I'd say we're strong." The guy said thanks and left. I was howling -- could he not see the sign in the yard?? Hubby said "I'll give him 2 points for bravery." My response was "Or maybe he's too stupid to READ considering who he's campaigning for!"


116 posted on 09/19/2004 1:56:05 PM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden, it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: Publius6961

The "representative from the other party" in the ghetto is often a stooge, a nominal Republican registered soley with the intent of permitting the vote fraud.


117 posted on 09/19/2004 2:08:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: tommix2
Some have speculated that this is the real reason why Nixon didn't challenge the election in 1960. I prefer to think that Republicans are better than that, but perhaps not always...

It might be like the gerrymandering business, giving the Dems a safe seat in exchange for one of our own, etc...

118 posted on 09/19/2004 2:10:39 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: beyond the sea

These are two crimes, the banning of conservative book by left wingers and the failure by the MSM to discuss the Swift Vets and their history with Kerry.


119 posted on 09/19/2004 2:11:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Agrarian

The Republicans who have won their elections then try to be liked. They want to "get along." Accusing your 'rat counterparts of massive vote fraud is akin to throwing a big turd in the punchbowl. They "let it go," since they are in (presumably) "safe districts."


120 posted on 09/19/2004 2:13:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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