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BUSH OFFICIALS WANT CBSNEWS MODERATOR OFF DEBATE (DRUDGE) (Updated info)
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Posted on 09/20/2004 5:05:36 PM PDT by lunatic12

Edited on 09/20/2004 7:11:40 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON SEPT 20, 2004 20:02:09 ET XXXXX

BUSH OFFICIALS WANT CBSNEWS MODERATOR OFF DEBATE Just hours after CBSNEWS admitted it cannot prove the authenticity of documents used in a 60 MINUTES story about President Bush's National Guard service, top Bush advisers are recommending a CBS reporter be removed as moderator of a planned presidential debate, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

At question is the approved Oct. 13 debate at Arizona State University in Tempe with Bob Schieffer, chief Washington correspondent for CBSNEWS, moderating.

"Considering the circumstances, we should definitely ask that Schieffer be replaced," a top Bush adviser told the president on Monday, according to a well-placed source.

The well-placed source continued: "Who can trust these CBS people to play it straight [during the debate]? I suspect they will be out for revenge."

The president is said to have not made any decision whether to seek a removal of the planned CBSNEWS moderator.

Developing...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 2004debates; debates; napalminthemorning; rathergate; seebsnews; stainedbluememo
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1 posted on 09/20/2004 5:05:36 PM PDT by lunatic12
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To: lunatic12

I was hoping this would happen. Maybe they can get Britt Hume.


2 posted on 09/20/2004 5:06:26 PM PDT by jbarkley
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To: lunatic12

Punishment is good....


3 posted on 09/20/2004 5:06:30 PM PDT by Rik0Shay
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To: Rik0Shay

bttt


4 posted on 09/20/2004 5:06:40 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: lunatic12

Yay! Kudos to Jim Baker!


5 posted on 09/20/2004 5:06:41 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: lunatic12

Ooohh! How delicious.
White House going for the throat.


6 posted on 09/20/2004 5:06:45 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: lunatic12

Ain't going to happen. The debates are set.

Three debates,
Sep 30 Florida....Subject: Iraq and homeland security
Oct 8 Missouri... Town hall style (Can't believe he agreed to this)
Oct 13 Arizona Subject: Domestic issues

VP debate: Oct 5 Ohio


7 posted on 09/20/2004 5:06:47 PM PDT by sarasotarepublican
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To: lunatic12

This is very nice, if true.


8 posted on 09/20/2004 5:07:04 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Today's final score: Free Republic 1, CBS 0.)
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To: lunatic12

Of course, otherwise, bush gets a bye on any question asked.

Oh, since you dont have the memo on my iraq plan....


9 posted on 09/20/2004 5:07:04 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Rik0Shay

This needed to happen. I hope they stand firm.


10 posted on 09/20/2004 5:07:13 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: lunatic12

It's about time!

Great! I hope they stick to their guns.

A moderator shouldn't be so biased that he is willing to overlook obvious forgeries to attack one side.


11 posted on 09/20/2004 5:07:40 PM PDT by QQQQQ (Defeat Kerry. Support the SwiftVets. Keep the ads on the air. http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: lunatic12

Yeah!


12 posted on 09/20/2004 5:07:41 PM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: lunatic12

LONG OVERDUE, imho.

CBS should NEVER have been close to the debates in the first place!


13 posted on 09/20/2004 5:07:47 PM PDT by Quix (CONTACT CHURCHES UR AREA 2 HAVE SOLID PLAN 4 BUSSES VANS 2 GET CONSRV VOTERS 2 POLLS ELECTION DAY!)
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To: sarasotarepublican

I haven't heard they were set yet.
Where did you get this information from?


14 posted on 09/20/2004 5:07:56 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: lunatic12

Anybody watching the Bloviator? I think Laura Ingraham kicked him hard enough where it counts, that he now remembers who brought him to the dance. NOOOOOOWWWW, suddenly he notices the elite media bias against the swift vets - and hits Rather with the forgeries, albeit with a heavily cushioned boxing glove. Anybody else see this?


15 posted on 09/20/2004 5:08:13 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (The Left is smart enough to know the truth, but low enough not to care.)
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To: lunatic12

Bobby Boy Schieffer is as biased as is Gungha Dan. Good riddance.


16 posted on 09/20/2004 5:08:21 PM PDT by NutmegDevil
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To: lunatic12

Confession absent contrition is a no go. CBS is not contrite. Schiefer loses.


17 posted on 09/20/2004 5:08:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: lunatic12

Nice shot across the bow. Way to go Mr. Baker.


18 posted on 09/20/2004 5:09:40 PM PDT by capydick ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: lunatic12

It's about time. CBS can no longer be trusted.


19 posted on 09/20/2004 5:09:52 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: sarasotarepublican

I hear you.

A town-hall debate?

Forgive my paranois/suspicious style but I see a lot of those so-called undecided voters coming in and dropping all kinds of loaded questions on Bush.

B-C'04 should have stuck to two debates only.


20 posted on 09/20/2004 5:09:54 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: lunatic12
about time! They should have made this part of the debate negotiations!
21 posted on 09/20/2004 5:10:14 PM PDT by martinidon ("who would Saddam and Osama vote for in this years election...")
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To: lunatic12

Before everyone gets excited, they could just be making a point. If CBS still moderates a debate don't be surprised.

It's good either way. They are pointing out CBS is suspect. If CBS still moderates a debate they will be under scrutiny in a way no other organization would be.


22 posted on 09/20/2004 5:10:32 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: lunatic12

Schieffer Flashback:

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040823.asp

Probed Bush Guard Record, But Now Want Bush to Condemn Swift Ads

On the first Face the Nation after President Bush's Air National Guard service became a big media scandal in February, CBS's Bob Schieffer focused on the substance, demanding to know what recently released records revealed. He did not demand that the Kerry team condemn the pursuit of the issue or DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe for accusing Bush of being "AWOL" and, in fact, his co-host, Time's Karen Tumulty, outlined how the subject helped the Kerry campaign in its denigration of Bush character. But a bit more than six months later, on the first Face the Nation after the broadcast networks finally got around to the charges from the anti-Kerry Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, Schieffer and his co-host, the Boston Globe's Nina Easton, didn't care about the substance of Kerry's record as both instead demanded to know why President Bush hadn't condemned the group's ads. Easton was more concerned about Kerry's plight, noting he had "finally" condemned the ads. She still worried: "Do you think he waited too long? Do you think the damage has already been done?"

The February 15 Face the Nation didn't feature any elected officials as the program started with a session on gay marriage with Dr. James Dobson. Later, with Tumulty and Boston Globe reporter Walter Robinson, Schieffer cited the "dramatic release late on a Friday night of these hundreds of pages of records" by the White House and he asked Robinson: "Did you find anything new in those records?" Schieffer soon pressed Robinson on Bush's 30-year-old records: "What has all this turned up? Was the President not at these Guard meetings? Is there actual proof of that? Or is it we just don't know what happened here?"

Tumulty chimed in with an approving assessment of how the Bush Guard story helps Kerry advance his denigration of Bush: "They're also trying to draw the contrast the way they want it drawn. Their apparent nominee is a man who, although he opposed the war, went to Vietnam and served. President Bush supported the war and went into the National Guard at a time when it was a near guarantee you wouldn't have to go to Vietnam. I think that this is the contrast that the Democrats are going to want to ride on this very important issue of character."

But on Sunday's Face the Nation, the CBS team wasn't interested in how the anti-Kerry ads may help Bush. Instead, co-host Nina Easton of the Boston Globe worried about how the ads hurt Kerry as she vexed to Democratic Senator Carl Levin, who came aboard with Republican Senator Pat Roberts primarily to discuss reorganization of the intelligence agencies, about how Kerry "finally issued a harsh condemnation and suggested the Bush campaign was behind these attacks. Do you think he waited too long? Do you think the damage has already been done?"

Easton turned to Republican Senator Pat Roberts and demanded: "Why doesn't the Bush White House condemn the ads? Why doesn't President Bush condemn those ads?" Schieffer picked up on Easton's point, and pressed Roberts about how "every time somebody asks an official, from President Bush right on down, they give this very carefully crafted answer. They say, 'we condemn all these ads,' but they will not condemn this ad specifically. Why is that?"

In the second segment on the August 22 show, Schieffer and Easton interviewed Kerry's two daughters. Schieffer's first inquiry to them: "All of us wonder what is it like to be out there when you hear these attacks on your dad? How do you handle that?"


23 posted on 09/20/2004 5:10:40 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: guitfiddlist

I saw the last part of it. Maybe his ratings have gone down since so many of us stopped watching him religiously so he's swinging the other way tonight.

I can't stand him so I couldn't really care less.


24 posted on 09/20/2004 5:10:45 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: MplsSteve

Don't "misunderestimate" President Bush, he'll be fine.


25 posted on 09/20/2004 5:10:48 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: lunatic12

Bet you it is because of this....
CBS' Bob Schieffer:
"I did my closing commentary on Face the Nation on these new polls that are out that show that George Bush has opened up a nine point lead over Kerry and I noted that it is really unusual and that most of the indicators in the polls, most people think that the country is gong in the wrong direction. Most people are worried about the economy and there is a plurality that believes that George Bush is handling the Iraq war in the wrong way."
CBS' Bob Schieffer:


26 posted on 09/20/2004 5:11:01 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: lunatic12

What's happened at the White House??? They're actually acting like they don't enjoy being slapped around, kicked and spit on anymore. About frikkin' time...


27 posted on 09/20/2004 5:11:29 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (The Left is smart enough to know the truth, but low enough not to care.)
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To: Quix

There should definitely be consequences to their actions from the White House. You obviously can't remove CBS's White House correspondent but this is a valid sanction for their actions.

Mess with the bull, get the horns. CBS has lost all semblance of credibility with this fiasco and they need to continue paying a very public price for their mistake. Murrow is rolling in his grave.

Have you noticed the incredible silence of Walter Cronkite on this issue?


28 posted on 09/20/2004 5:11:52 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: lunatic12

Good for them!


29 posted on 09/20/2004 5:11:54 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: jbarkley

Brit, You The Man!


30 posted on 09/20/2004 5:12:07 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (A 4 month swift boat commander or a 4 year Commander in Chief? You Decide.)
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To: lunatic12

I think we should start a steady drum beat for Brit Hume.


31 posted on 09/20/2004 5:12:52 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (The Left is smart enough to know the truth, but low enough not to care.)
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To: lunatic12

This is one issue they definately need to tackle. Bob Schieffer should not be moderating the 3rd debate. I sent this email to the GOP last week:

Please dispute the CPD over their choice of Bob Schieffer of CBS News to moderate the third presidential debate being held at Arizona State University. Viacom is the 14th largest contributor to the Kerry campaign and owns CBS News which is nightly committing blatant partisanship in their reporting. It is entirely possible that Viacom is pressuring Dan Rather to stonewall the issue of the now infamously forged records concerning President Bush's military service. The format of the debate grants the moderator discretion to ask follow-up questions which in effect grants Viacom control over the outcome of the 3rd and last crucial debate.
Thank you in advance for your consideration of this matter.


32 posted on 09/20/2004 5:13:03 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: sarasotarepublican
Sep 30 Florida....Subject: Iraq and homeland security

A whole debate just on those? Not all foreign policy? Ugh.

33 posted on 09/20/2004 5:13:24 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: lunatic12

Great way to keep the Rather Forgeries in the headlines for a few more weeks.

Nobody ever has to wonder if GWB has a pair.


34 posted on 09/20/2004 5:13:30 PM PDT by harrycarey
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To: lunatic12
Poor CBS. It has know idea what is coming. It is hoping that its rambling "apology"/excuse will suffice. Hardly. Rathergate will stay alive through the news cycles well past the election. There must be a bunker mentality at CBS News, but apparently no responsible adults who understand what must be done to salvage any franchise value. The outrageousness of the story and the patently disingenuous quality of the network's response have alienated much of its viewership. I cannot believe that this has been tolerated by the higher ups at CBS and its parent, Viacom.

It won't go away. On the contrary, I think the bloggers and other new media constituents will see it to its proper conclusion: Rather's and Mapes' resignations or terminations.

35 posted on 09/20/2004 5:13:33 PM PDT by Zebra
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To: sarasotarepublican
Is the whiny Ponytail Boy from the '92 debate in Richmond, VA going to be at the Town Hall forum?
36 posted on 09/20/2004 5:13:34 PM PDT by quark
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To: lunatic12

Personally I want CBS "off" television. I have previously given them zero creditability on anything but football games. You can damn well be sure that henceforth I will check football scores with another station, before I take CBS's word for them.


37 posted on 09/20/2004 5:13:52 PM PDT by Joee
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To: lunatic12
On the surface this appears to be a good idea. But lets not be to quick to punish CBS now and miss an opportunity to keep this issue alive.

This is huge and reflects negatively on CBS, Kerry, the DNC et al.

38 posted on 09/20/2004 5:14:06 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Carl Rove? That Bitch set us up! - Terry 'marion Berry' McCauliff)
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To: lunatic12

Should be Brit.


39 posted on 09/20/2004 5:14:48 PM PDT by QwertyKPH
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To: lunatic12

AWESOME!


40 posted on 09/20/2004 5:15:03 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: lunatic12
"Pubbies growing some cojones!"

This is not his Daddy's Grand Old Party!


41 posted on 09/20/2004 5:15:09 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Rik0Shay
Punishment is good....

Pulling CBS off of the debates is a good start, but jail time is what these people deserve.

42 posted on 09/20/2004 5:15:14 PM PDT by alnick (US forces armed with what? Spitballs??)
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To: sarasotarepublican
Oct 8 Missouri... Town hall style (Can't believe he agreed to this)

That's the conventional wisdom, but when you think about it, which candidate will do better up close with real people? GWB or the Flopper? Bush-Cheney will run the table in these debates. A clear and decisive 4-0 drubbing.

43 posted on 09/20/2004 5:15:31 PM PDT by Huck ("Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an air force." --P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: sarasotarepublican

Bush will kick butt on Sept. 30, and he'll overwhelm Kerry on Oct. 8 due to the town hall format. The last debate on Oct. 13 provides sufficient time to allow Bush to recover from any mistake. Cheney will crucify Edwards on Oct. 5.


44 posted on 09/20/2004 5:15:34 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Kerry/Edwards--When you're full of it you need two johns.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

President Bush will win these debates hands down...IF, he is studied by his Team well.

The KEY to winning these debates will be to USE KERRY's FLIP FLOPS against him, with a little humor.
When JFnK goes into a diatribe about WRONG WAR WRONG TIME, the President will simply say, "I thank my opponent for finally picking a stance on the WOT...but what will his position be tomorrow...?"

When JFnK says we have not assembled a coalition of the willing but instead a coalition of the bribed...President Bush should simply say, "Senator Kerry, please stop insulting our allies, the UK, Italy, Poland, Japan..."

There are plenty of JFnK quotes to pull up and remind people of what Kerry said then and now and then and now...

G


45 posted on 09/20/2004 5:17:35 PM PDT by GRRRRR
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To: lunatic12

Replace Bob Schefer with Brit Hume.


46 posted on 09/20/2004 5:17:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Michael.SF.

Since CBS is the subject of late night jokes, I'm in favor of them moderating a debate.

The Libs in the Press core are going to attempt to sabotage Bush no matter when or what venue. Why ditch a news organization just busted for attempting to manipulate a Presidential election? Best case scenario they will have to make an effort to appear fair if they want to attempt to regain credibility. Worst case they soft ball Kerry, grill G.W., and we point out it's CBS- Home of the Forgery scandel.


47 posted on 09/20/2004 5:17:41 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: lunatic12

Excellent!


48 posted on 09/20/2004 5:18:07 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: NutmegDevil

Schieffer was being serviced by I'manass this morning. The bias goes to the core of this team of liberal heads.


49 posted on 09/20/2004 5:18:09 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: jbarkley
I was hoping this would happen. Maybe they can get Britt Hume.

I second that! Britt is the ONLY anchor today with any modicum of balance.

50 posted on 09/20/2004 5:18:37 PM PDT by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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