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Ad Says Kerry 'Secretly' Met With Enemy; But He Told Congress of It (Swift Vets Jane Fonda ad)
Wash Post ^ | 9/22/04 | Paul Farhi

Posted on 09/21/2004 9:00:52 PM PDT by Cableguy

The veterans organization that sparked controversy last month when it questioned John F. Kerry's military service in Vietnam plans to launch a new commercial today that equates Kerry with Vietnam War protester Jane Fonda and accuses the Democratic presidential nominee of secretly meeting with "enemy leaders" during the conflict.

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth said it will spend $1.3 million to air its advertisement in five battleground states and on national cable television networks over the next week. The ad, titled "Friends," makes no assertion of any direct link between Kerry and Fonda, but it suggests that their contacts with North Vietnamese leaders during the war were equally dishonorable.

"Even before Jane Fonda went to Hanoi to meet with the enemy and mock America, John Kerry secretly met with enemy leaders in Paris," begins the spot, with grainy footage of the actress and a young Kerry. ". . . Then he returned and accused American troops of committing war crimes on a daily basis. Eventually, Jane Fonda apologized for her activities, but John Kerry refuses to."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; janefonda; kerry; kerrylies; lurch; mediashillsforkerry; radicalleftists; sbv; swiftvets
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1 posted on 09/21/2004 9:00:52 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Cableguy

It seems Kerry talked about it AFTERWARDS, but NOT before, the WP is trying to whitewash it, but I think it actually just makes it worse.

"The meeting, however, was not a secret. Kerry, a leading antiwar activist at the time, mentioned it in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April of that year. "I have been to Paris," he testified. "I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and Provisional Revolutionary Government," the latter a South Vietnamese communist group with ties to the Viet Cong.


2 posted on 09/21/2004 9:03:55 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Cableguy

Um, he secretly met with them BEFORE testifying in Congress. Unless, of course, he put out statements immediately after the Parisian meetings that said he just met with the NVA.

Telling Congress about it one year later doesn't mean he didn't meet with them secretly the previous year.


3 posted on 09/21/2004 9:03:59 PM PDT by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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To: Cableguy
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John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War, testified before special session the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for two hours about alleging widespread atrocities by U.S. troops, and the official policies in Vietnam which were illegal, according to international law. He asks the Congressional panel "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"
"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Check out the John F. Kerry Timeline. Email it to your friends.
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4 posted on 09/21/2004 9:04:05 PM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: Cableguy

Well, I know that he refuses to reveal what hwe discussed with them, he says he can't remember, which is preposterous. I don't recall how secret the meeting was, it wasn't held in public though. The real story is that he met with them at all, as an anti war zealot.


5 posted on 09/21/2004 9:04:45 PM PDT by Williams
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To: FairOpinion

Yep. Their story is totally misleading. At least they are covering it, so that is something. Unlike NY Slimes.


6 posted on 09/21/2004 9:05:08 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Cableguy

I see the Post is lying again, saying that some charges made by the Swift Vets have been refuted.


7 posted on 09/21/2004 9:05:47 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Cableguy

Looks like the Swifties are getting to the liberals!

Hannity said "UNFIT FOR COMMAND" is still #1 on the NY Times list.

Keep the ads on the air. Donate to the Swiftvets.

( and watch their latest ad, if you haven't seen it yet)

http://www.swiftvets.com


8 posted on 09/21/2004 9:06:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Cableguy

Cool, the Wash Post is reporting about the ad. That'll do just fine


9 posted on 09/21/2004 9:06:16 PM PDT by madison46 (Bandwagon was full when it left the gate - I hope it remains too full for frogs & co.)
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To: Carling

His first meeting in Paris was end of May, 1970. His testimony before the Senate committee was April 22, 1971. He then met with the North Vietnamese in Paris sometime in the summer of 1971. He's never admitted to that meeting as far as know, and it only came to light with Nicosia's review of FBI docs. Newt mentioned a third visit, but we don't have record of that one, as far as I know.


10 posted on 09/21/2004 9:08:41 PM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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Umm, This ad is not targeted toward the civilians of the US. It is targeted to the Nam Vets, to stir up their feelings towards Jane, and associate it with sKeery. Great move.


11 posted on 09/21/2004 9:09:22 PM PDT by MattMa (I'm not a victim, I am a conservative and if you get to close, I just may bite.)
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To: Cableguy

Afterward, not before!

Apparently those morons at WAPO don't know that Kerry met with the VietCong delegation in Paris, but NOT with the American delegation (nor did he tell the American delegation he was even in town).


12 posted on 09/21/2004 9:09:33 PM PDT by Petronski (What did Terri McAuliffe know and when did she know it?)
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To: Cableguy

I think the Kerry campaign should focus the next 6 weeks exclusively on hard-hitting ads showing that Kerry's negotiations with the enemy in Paris really weren't "secret" and that he actually voted against the assassination plot in Kansas City. That would show his "fighting mood," and I'm sure a majority of voters would flock to his side.


13 posted on 09/21/2004 9:09:39 PM PDT by Burma Jones
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To: FairOpinion

You're right. IIRC, when the Walt Disney Company went about buying up much of central Flordia, they setup hundreds of companies. They didn't want to have the owners of the land reap the benefits they might have if Disney had announced, in advance, that they wanted tens of thousands of acres. After the act, of course, they could fess up.


14 posted on 09/21/2004 9:11:45 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Cableguy
The meeting, however, was not a secret. Kerry, a leading antiwar activist at the time, mentioned it in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in April of that year.

The previous year, actually. Kerry met with North Vietnamese and Vietcong leaders in Paris in late May or early June of 1970. His infamous testimony before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations was on April 22, 1971.

"Home to War" author Gerald Nicosia wrote that a second Kerry confab in Paris is documented in the VVAW FBI files, but I haven't found any indication when that occurred or where that reference is...

15 posted on 09/21/2004 9:12:09 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Burma Jones

I wonder... Did he vote for the assassination before he voted against it? Hm....


16 posted on 09/21/2004 9:14:04 PM PDT by TwoWolves (The only kind of control the liberals don't want is self control.)
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To: Cableguy
He also told Congress in that testimony;

Senator, I will say this. I think that politically, historically,the one thing that people try to do, that society is structured on as a whole, is an attempt to satisfy their felt needs, and you can satisfy those needs with almost any kind of political structure, giving it one name or the other. In this name it is democratic; in other it is communism; in others it is benevolent dictatorship. As long as those needs are satisfied, that structure will exist.

To him there is not much difference between communism and democracy as long as you satisfy peoples needs. It is now clear to me why he has no idea what the President's vision is, freedom and democracy really aren't the issue to John Effin Kerry.

17 posted on 09/21/2004 9:16:40 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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To: MattMa
You misunderestimate the reach of these ads.

Fathers,Mothers,Sisters,Brothers,Sons,Daughters,Cousins,Friends of those who served then and are serving now will see these ads,and they vote.

18 posted on 09/21/2004 9:19:33 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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To: FairOpinion

Donation given . . . and it felt REAL good.


19 posted on 09/21/2004 9:19:39 PM PDT by Andyman
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To: Cableguy

Wasn't Kerry still an officially commisioned naval officer at the time he met with the NV delegation? That alone poses lots of juicy issues...


20 posted on 09/21/2004 9:19:40 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Savor the present as the days of Kerry's whine and poses. It'll be a nice memory when you are old.)
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