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Former CBS Exec 'Gets Clock Cleaned'
County Press (Suburban Philadelphia) Second Thoughts ^ | 9-22-04 | William W. Lawrence

Posted on 9/22/2004, 10:34:25 PM by Temple Owl

Jonathan Klein, a former executive vice president of CBS News who oversaw "60 Minutes," committed a momentous error when, while defending Dan Rather, he spitefully referred to the bloggers as guys sitting around in their pajamas.

Klein is now regretting that description. Among the bloggers sitting around in their jammies are other skilled "fair and balanced" journalists, software engineers, skilled lawyers, printers who can recognize typeface design, intelligence veterans, talented artists, musicians and a lot of military veterans. The guys in their jammies cleaned Dan Rather's clock.

They have three words for Mr. Klein: "Bring it on."

(Excerpt) Read more at countypressonline.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; freepers; klein
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Courage, Bring it On.
1 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:34:30 PM by Temple Owl
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To: Temple Owl

I like winter, 'cuz then I can Freep in my flannel jammies. Very comfortable...


2 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:36:04 PM by AzSteven
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To: Temple Owl

He was looking down on the internet from such a lofty height... until he realized suddenly he was looking up.


3 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:36:33 PM by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Temple Owl
Also from that article:

I find the settling of scores of the Vietnam vets highly enjoyable. The vets can finally pull their uniforms out of mothballs -- the ones that John Kerry, Jane Fonda and that ilk spit on and threw excrement at -- and finally wear them with pride, all the while telling the truth about Sen. Kerry.
They all remember the day Kerry had sat before Congress in his fatigues and portrayed them as "baby killers" and "murderers."
Revenge is sweet.

4 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:38:27 PM by Billthedrill
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To: Temple Owl
Bernard Goldberg, author of the book Bias tells how Dan Rather bragged about serving two hitches in the U.S. Marine Corps. It turns out, because of medical problems, Captain Dan the Newsman never finished basic training before being handed his discharge. Semper Fi, Dan. Courage.

Dan's Fantasy Land--go on vacation in the comfort of your own head!

5 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:38:49 PM by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Temple Owl

I never freep without my fez and bathrobe.


6 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:39:10 PM by martin_fierro (Herein endeth the lesson.)
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To: Temple Owl

We are the pajamahadeen, and our headquarters, JimRob Central, is in the Pajamahedron.


7 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:39:28 PM by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: samtheman

Naw, he was sitting in the windowless room that msm calls it's home. someone opened the door and let the sun in. He is shocked to see he is in an outhouse.


8 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:40:03 PM by marty60
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To: martin_fierro

Lol, don't forget your pipe...


9 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:40:17 PM by F16Fighter
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To: Temple Owl
It seems as if Klein is making up for his comment. He has been appearing on Scarborough Country on their discussion panels.

Scarborough has been all over this story with a pretty good panel.

-PJ

10 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:40:28 PM by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: martin_fierro
I never freep without my fez and bathrobe.

Fez: mandatory.

Bathrobe: optional

(c8

11 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:40:49 PM by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Temple Owl

How the bloggers cut CBS and Rather down to size

Internet bloggers have drawn blood and American journalism may never be the same

South China Morning Post
Wednesday, September 22, 2004
http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=14859

Internet bloggers have drawn blood and American journalism may never be the same.

To hear some press experts tell it, CBS' admission that it was duped into using questionable documents about US President George W. Bush's National Guard service during the Vietnam war was a watershed moment, brought on by a small army of internet-based commentators, known as bloggers.

Their insistence, from the moment CBS aired its report almost two weeks ago, that the documents were fake turned the question into a national issue.

It ended with Dan Rather, CBS and the American media establishment in a state of deep embarrassment.

Orville Schell, dean of the school of journalism at the University of California in Berkeley, said CBS' admission of error after days of stonewalling was "a landmark moment for the balance between the blogosphere and mainstream media".

Bloggers were the first to challenge the authenticity of the documents and the first to publish detailed examinations of the evidence by dozens of self-declared experts, some of them with Republican party ties.

"The credibility of the media has taken another hit, especially when you consider the story is not Dan Rather but President Bush's service in the National Guard," Dr Schell said.

That story, which said Mr Bush ducked military service in Vietnam by entering the guard and then getting special treatment thanks to his powerful father, has been lost in the welter of complaints about the CBS story.

It was not the first time bloggers have struck. Often working anonymously, bloggers have fanned the flames of controversies ranging from whether Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry deserved his Vietnam medals to whether Republican Trent Lott should remain a Senate leader after praising a segregationist.

Dr Schell and former New Republic editor Andrew Sullivan, among others, say there is a media revolution under way. Writing in this week's Time magazine, Sullivan said: "In days gone by, you needed a small fortune to start up a simple magazine or newspaper. Now you need a laptop and a modem."

Steven Miller, who teaches broadcast journalism at New Jersey's Rutgers University, said CBS fell victim to the economics and cutthroat competition in television news. "Unfortunately, the truth seems to be taking a back seat to ratings, and this time, CBS got caught up in it," Mr Miller said.

But Tom Goldstein, former dean of Columbia University's School of Journalism, dismissed the notion that CBS' dilemma was a sign that American journalism had become more sloppy.

"They had the best in the business on it, and they got duped and there but for the grace of God go you and I," he said.


Date Posted: 9/22/2004


12 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:42:39 PM by KeyLargo
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To: AzSteven

Jammies Up!!!!!!


13 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:42:59 PM by Dog
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To: Temple Owl

Mr. Klein was a victim of the Jammie Whammies.


14 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:44:21 PM by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: martin_fierro

And red, white, and blue fuzzy slippers!


15 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:46:24 PM by Screaming Eagle Red Leg
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To: Temple Owl
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16 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:46:29 PM by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: marty60

Perfect!!!


17 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:50:31 PM by midwyf
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To: Temple Owl

BTTT


18 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:51:27 PM by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Temple Owl

Because I am a gentleman, I will not print the three words I have for Mr. Crying.


19 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:52:06 PM by GOPologist
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To: Temple Owl

That's right, Klein was wrong to do that. He was ignorant of the facts. I give in to hubris a lot, too. It's a constant temptation.


20 posted on 9/22/2004, 10:52:06 PM by Genoa
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