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Zogby: The Race Is Still Kerry’s To Lose (Barf alert)
Zoby On Line ^ | 9-30-2004 | John Zogby

Posted on 09/30/2004 2:48:15 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE

And in 1980, when Americans seemed to have made up their minds about not voting for President Jimmy Carter, they needed to be assured that his opponent, Republican Ronald Reagan was more than a dangerous ideologue or a Grade B actor. Reagan delivered one of the great knockout blows in presidential debate history: “Are you better off than you were fours ago?”

(Excerpt) Read more at zogby.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: polls; postdebateanalysis; specialsauce; talkingheads; wishfulthinking; zogby
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Let the spinning begin. This guy says that Kerry can get 45-47% of the vote by just showing up. He spins that "kerry has more room for growth" as a positive as a pose to people may not vote for Kerry or that Bush has more solid support.

Pravda.

1 posted on 09/30/2004 2:48:15 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: BoBToMatoE

Now you know why I accord Zogby's "interactive" polls no credibility whatsoever. The guy just seethes bias.


2 posted on 09/30/2004 2:49:40 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: BoBToMatoE
As of this writing this race is still John Kerry’s to lose.

Leaving himself weasel room, just like he does with those tracking polls of his that show "dramatic" 20 point swings in the final day of polling.

3 posted on 09/30/2004 2:51:22 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: BoBToMatoE

John Zogby has been in the tank for Kerry quite awhile now. Virtually every other pollster disagrees with him about the state of the race. I'd have to observe John F*ckin' is no Ronald Reagan.


4 posted on 09/30/2004 2:51:39 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ambrose

You know, he has a post about how "he got it right" in 2000 with Gore at 51 and bush at 50.. (go figure 101%. :)).. but if you look at it in relation to other polls that were within 2 percentage points.. it is all within statistical error rate.

he is NOT the king of polls. He still uses the 2000 voting records like rasmussen to weight them. That is why I believe Dick Morris more than Zogby.


5 posted on 09/30/2004 2:53:20 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: BoBToMatoE

Go here to sign the Swiftboat Veteran's Petition that will be sent to Senator Kerry.

https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/petition.php


6 posted on 09/30/2004 2:53:48 PM PDT by HannaUSA (One American that is dang sick of the lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: BoBToMatoE
Zogby is a moozlim and his brother is head of the "Arab American Institute"

Nuff said.

7 posted on 09/30/2004 2:54:22 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: BoBToMatoE
The Race Is Still Kerry’s To Lose

And I have little doubt he’ll succeed.

8 posted on 09/30/2004 2:54:34 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: BoBToMatoE
“Are you better off than you were fours ago?”

Why is it that all the punch lines contain the typing errors?

9 posted on 09/30/2004 2:55:17 PM PDT by Old Professer (The Truth always gets lost in the Noise.)
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To: goldstategop
Virtually every other pollster disagrees with him about the state of the race. I'd have to observe John F*ckin' is no Ronald Reagan.

Polpundit analyzes each poll and pollster, and says that Zogby will not reveal his methodology and is still likely oversampling Democrats.

Zogby simply will not back away from what is clearly becoming a huge blunder, that Kerry is controlling his own fate.

Unless Bush makes a total fool of himself, Bush will pick up support, and will finish Kerry off tonight.

10 posted on 09/30/2004 2:55:31 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: BoBToMatoE

Zogby was no better than any other major pollster in 2000.

He was under 2% in terms of Bush's support and he gave Nader 3% more than he actually got.


11 posted on 09/30/2004 2:55:47 PM PDT by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: BoBToMatoE

I am better off with President Bush protecting this country. I knew Ronald Reagan and John Kerry is no Ronald Reagan.


12 posted on 09/30/2004 2:56:02 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: BoBToMatoE

True, Kerry probably can get 45% just by showing up. So can Bush. What's his point?


13 posted on 09/30/2004 2:56:48 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: BoBToMatoE

He's either a genius or is about to be 'outed' professionaly. Kerry has no room with those favorable/unfavorable ratings and the enthusiasim ratings from his supporters.


14 posted on 09/30/2004 2:57:13 PM PDT by madison46 (Bandwagon was full when it left the gate - I hope it remains too full for frogs & co.)
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To: BoBToMatoE
This guy says that Kerry can get 45-47% of the vote by just showing up.

I doubt it. The Dems spent the last four years doing "Bush is stupid" jokes. Now the "smart" guy needs to knock out the "stupid" guy or leave people thinking he's all hollow.

15 posted on 09/30/2004 2:59:01 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state.)
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To: BoBToMatoE
Zogby unplugged is at it again. He's going to deny the obvious until the end. Then he will quietly disappear until he's safe from being humiliated. And the circle of his crap prognosticating will begin again.
16 posted on 09/30/2004 2:59:41 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: BoBToMatoE
Zogby unplugged is at it again. He's going to deny the obvious until the end. Then he will quietly disappear until he's safe from being humiliated. And the circle of his crap prognosticating will begin again.
17 posted on 09/30/2004 3:00:30 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: madison46

His analysis seems pretty counter-intuitive...I mean...where are the red states that are in trouble for President Bush?? There aren't any I can think of...


18 posted on 09/30/2004 3:00:36 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Rome2000

Actually he is a christian so I dont think that plays into his anti-Bush leanings which he is quite plain in saying. I think he is reading into the discontent against Bush wrongly and a poll is an average anyways, so even if he is wrong, he could come back towards the end like he did with Bush/Gore and get it right.


19 posted on 09/30/2004 3:00:46 PM PDT by bushsupporter30
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To: BoBToMatoE

Zogby writes a CYA Memo.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/bush_ja.html

Zog is the only pollster who uses the excellent/good/fair/poor methodology to determine approval ratings. Just about all other major polls have Bush's JA above 50% by a few points.

RealClearPolitics Poll Average
President George W. Bush Job Approval Ratings


Poll Date Approve Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 9/20 - 9/28 51.9% 45.5% +6.4%
Rasmussen 9/26 - 9/28 54% 46% +8%
LA Times 9/25 - 9/28 52% 47% +5%
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 9/24 - 9/26 54% 44% +10%
ABC News/WP (RV) 9/23 - 9/26 52% 46% +6%
Time 9/21 - 9/23 53% 43% +10%
Fox News 9/21 - 9/22 50% 45% +5%
GW-Battleground 9/20 - 9/23 53% 45% +8%
Marist 9/20 - 9/22 49% 49% EVEN
AP/Ipsos 9/20 - 9/22 54% 46% +8%
CBS News 9/20 - 9/22 48% 44% +4%


20 posted on 09/30/2004 3:01:03 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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