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Deriving Dimensions: Emergence of a 4D World From Causal Quantum Gravity
Physical Review Focus ^ | 24 September 2004 | Adrian Cho

Posted on 10/02/2004 4:43:49 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

It seems like the most obvious physical fact: The universe has four dimensions--three spanning space and one ticking away time. But the ultimate theory of gravity should explain why the universe is four-dimensional and how those dimensions arose, say researchers trying to unify the theories of quantum mechanics and relativity. Now, calculations in the 24 September PRL [Phys. Rev. Lett.] show that when all possible microscopic contortions of spacetime are added together, a large-scale four-dimensional universe can emerge.

For nearly 80 years physicists have struggled to reconcile the prevailing theory of gravity with quantum mechanics. According to Einstein's general theory of relativity, mass and energy warp spacetime. The undulations then affect the trajectories of passing objects, producing the effects we call gravity. In Einstein's theory, spacetime is a stretchy, dynamical entity.

However, the precise state of any dynamical thing remains uncertain, according to quantum mechanics. So at lengths of about 10-35 meters, spacetime can no longer be smooth, but must be roiling and frothy. That "quantum foam" bedevils researchers trying to concoct a quantum theory of gravity because in it concepts such as "ahead" and "behind" or "sooner" and "later" can loose their meaning. And no one has explained how the four-dimensional spacetime we take for granted emerges from the fantastical foam. Researchers have attempted to generate familiar four-dimensional spacetime by adding up all the possible configurations of the foam, thus borrowing a page from quantum mechanics, in which theorists assume that a particle travels between two points by taking every conceivable path at once. But these calculations have produced spacetimes that have either just two dimensions, or infinitely many.

The approach can produce a four-dimensional universe, however, if each particular version of the foam preserves a certain notion of cause and effect, report Renate Loll of the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands and colleagues. As in previous calculations, the researchers used a computer to generate approximate versions of all possible curved and frothy spacetimes by gluing together little triangular bits of flat four-dimensional spacetime, much as an artist might fashion abstract sculptures curving every which way by randomly gluing flat triangular tiles edge to edge. However, this time the researchers required that in each bit of spacetime nothing could travel faster than the speed of light, which implies that causes could never precede effects. In previous work, researchers imposed no such "causality." The team also took care to connect the triangles together in a way that preserves the cause-before-effect ordering.

The researchers added up all the possible spacetimes to see if something like a large-scale four-dimensional spacetime would emerge from the sum. That was not guaranteed, even though the tiny bits of spacetime were four-dimensional. On larger scales the spacetime could curve in ways that would effectively change its dimension, just as a two-dimensional sheet of paper can be wadded into a three-dimensional ball or rolled into a nearly one-dimensional tube. This time the researchers found that they could achieve something that appeared to have one time dimension and three space dimensions--like the universe we know and love.

"It's exceedingly important" work, says Lee Smolin of the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Canada. "Now at least we know one way to do this." Des Johnston of Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh, Scotland, agrees the work is "very exciting" and says it underlines the importance of causality. "The other neat thing about this work is that you're essentially reducing general relativity to a counting problem," Johnston says. "It's a very minimalist approach to looking at gravity."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 4d; cosmology; dimensions; physics; quantummachanics; science
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1 posted on 10/02/2004 4:43:49 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
Science list Ping! This is an elite subset of the Evolution list.
See the list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail me to be added or dropped.
2 posted on 10/02/2004 4:45:06 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (I'm PatrickHenry and I approve this message.)
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To: PatrickHenry

ok, NOW my head hurts.


3 posted on 10/02/2004 4:47:19 PM PDT by Snerdley (Pacifists are the parasites of freedom.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Hmm what would Doctor Who think about all this???

ping for later


4 posted on 10/02/2004 4:47:19 PM PDT by escapefromboston
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To: PatrickHenry

I had a hunch that this was the case.


5 posted on 10/02/2004 4:47:19 PM PDT by Max Combined (I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine...)
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To: PatrickHenry
"fantastical foam."

I had this epiphany whilst drinking a Guinness in Temple Bar, Dublin late one evening.
6 posted on 10/02/2004 4:49:20 PM PDT by Max Combined (I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine...)
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To: PatrickHenry

I suppose that in light of a 4 dimensional world I don't feel so bad about higher tax rates.


7 posted on 10/02/2004 4:50:22 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: PatrickHenry

"concepts such as "ahead" and "behind" or "sooner" and "later" can loose their meaning."

I had this epiphany after drinking a few Guinness in Temple Bar, Dublin late one evening.


8 posted on 10/02/2004 4:51:14 PM PDT by Max Combined (I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine...)
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To: Max Combined
"I had this epiphany after drinking a few Guinness in Temple Bar, Dublin late one evening."

Where would we be without FreeRepublic?

9 posted on 10/02/2004 4:53:24 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: PatrickHenry

However, this time the researchers required that in each bit of spacetime nothing could travel faster than the speed of light, which implies that causes could never precede effects.


Do you think they meant effects could never precede causes, or is it just the usual handwaving?


10 posted on 10/02/2004 4:53:31 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: billorites
I suppose that in light of a 4 dimensional world I don't feel so bad about higher tax rates.

My question is, if the universe is expanding, why aren't my pants?

11 posted on 10/02/2004 4:54:42 PM PDT by Grim
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To: PatrickHenry

"Des Johnston of Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh, Scotland, agrees the work is "very exciting" and says it underlines the importance of causality."

Now if only the democrats could be persuaded to admit the importance of causality.


12 posted on 10/02/2004 4:55:18 PM PDT by Max Combined (I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine...)
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To: PatrickHenry
Hmmm! Very interesting. Always entertaining to hear 21st century scientists speculate about such things. Not much different from medieval scholars of course, only the latest ones use much bigger words. At least they're not invoking that chap Einstein as much.

13 posted on 10/02/2004 4:57:10 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: PatrickHenry
I've known causality was important from the first time I skinned my knee. (And that was two weeks ago!)
14 posted on 10/02/2004 4:58:47 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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if each particular version of the foam preserves a certain notion of cause and effect,

. . . which implies that causes could never precede effects

It is probably just sloppy writing (the writer got it backwards) but these two statements contradict each other. A cause precedes an effect by definition.

Or maybe it is just QuantumSpeak. Meaning it has no discernable meaning.

15 posted on 10/02/2004 5:01:53 PM PDT by LogicWings
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To: PatrickHenry

 


16 posted on 10/02/2004 5:05:06 PM PDT by Fintan (Oh...am I supposed to read the article???)
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To: Grim

"My question is, if the universe is expanding, why aren't my pants?"

They are but your eyes are expanding too, so everything seems the same relatively. (And you can just keep my relatives out of this discussions - they never really existed. It's all been a dream.)


17 posted on 10/02/2004 5:06:35 PM PDT by Socratic (Kerry/Edwards - Forging a New Reality)
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To: gusopol3; LogicWings
Do you think they meant effects could never precede causes, or is it just the usual handwaving?

Looks like sloppy journalism. Unless this article bled through from some flip-flop Kerry-style universe.

18 posted on 10/02/2004 5:07:15 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (I'm PatrickHenry and I approve this message.)
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To: Grim
My question is, if the universe is expanding, why aren't my pants?

Look behind you.(humor)

Too much cheese moose perhaps, could be series, ask your sister.

19 posted on 10/02/2004 5:08:02 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: PatrickHenry

I feel so Homer Simpson, trying to grasp a 3D world.


20 posted on 10/02/2004 5:09:50 PM PDT by GoLightly (If it doesn't kill ya, it makes ya stronger.)
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