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US tightens ban on Cuban cigars
AFP/Yahoo ^ | 10/6/04

Posted on 10/06/2004 1:13:23 PM PDT by martin_fierro

US tightens ban on Cuban cigars

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s administration has tightened a ban on Americans importing Cuban cigars.

"There is now an across-the-board ban on the importation of Cuban-origin cigars," said a notice released this week by the Treasury Department (news - web sites)'s Office of Foreign Assets Control.

Previously, the rules allowed Americans licensed to travel to Cuba to bring back to the United States up to 100 dollars' worth of Cuban goods, including cigars.

That loophole was closed in the latest regulations.

The anti-Cuban cigar rules were already strict.

For example, Americans are barred from buying a Cuban cigar in other countries, even to smoke it outside the United States.

"The question is often asked whether United States citizens or permanent resident aliens of the United States may legally purchase Cuban goods, including tobacco and alcohol products, in a third country for personal use outside the United States," the notice said. "The answer is no."

Breaking the rules can lead to criminal penalties, including fines of up to one million dollars for corporations and 250,000 dollars for individuals and up to 10 years in prison, the department said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: badlaw; boycott; castro; cigars; communistlabor; cuba; cubancigars; dictatorship; drugs; embargo; federallaw; fidelcastro; foreigntravel; nationallaw; prodictator; pufflist; smokersrights; smuggling; tobacco; trade; warondrugs; wod
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Thank God I am protected from Cuban cigars. Now, if we could just make sure that gay people can't get married we will have truly made America safe!

Oh, I guess there is that pesky War on terrorism, though....


61 posted on 10/06/2004 1:46:34 PM PDT by no means yes ("There's no stoppin' the cretins from hoppin'.....")
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To: wireman

I had a 2003 edicion limitada Monetcristo recently that was great, but no better thana Padron, and truthfully not quite as good. The only truly great Cuban I've had was a Trinidad, and I her that it's still hit and miss with those, depending on the year.


62 posted on 10/06/2004 1:47:22 PM PDT by Cosmo (I'm the pajamahadeen, and I vote!)
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To: MineralMan

Because I think the embargo is silly and fruitless, that's how. If we're to be consistent we'd have to embargo every nation with hostile intentions, communism, and slave labor.

We're not going to do that though because Walmart needs cheap shirts from Bangladesh and Radio Shack needs cheap electronics from China.

When we get consistent about this embargo business, then you can get sanctimonious about it with me.


63 posted on 10/06/2004 1:48:12 PM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: freeeee

"Check out these 'liberals'...


The Boston Tea Party"

Yes, I'm familiar with that. Still, we are not subjugated by England any more, are we. We make our own laws now. You seem to be OK with breaking the ones you don't like. Again, that doesn't sound like a conservative POV to me.

To each his own, I suppose, but imagine yourself slapped with a felony conviction. How's that going to sit? And over a cigar, for pete's sake.


64 posted on 10/06/2004 1:48:42 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Guillermo

it would be impossible to move the culture of entitlement into a capitalistic society in less than a generation. then you have to obtain oodles of cash for construction because what was opulent inthe 50's is now -er- "quaint".

Then you have to upgrade things like the islands electrical capacity, streets, water/sewerage facilities, telecommunications, etc. infrastructure. that kinda money just isn't available for speculation.

and once you're done, you're gonna have to convince people to abandon micky mouse and/or reno/vegas, etc. to spend more $$$ to come down there. I just don't see it happenning in any realistic sense. people don't do things like they did in the 50's anymore.


65 posted on 10/06/2004 1:49:21 PM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: wireman
Anything by Arturo Fuente is fabulous. My all-time favorite is the Opus X Double Corona. They're great right out of the box, but they're incredible if you've aged them for a year or two.
66 posted on 10/06/2004 1:50:12 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: wireman

I agree about the crftsmanship. Ofte piss poor, and the burns suffer for it.

Give me a Cuban cigar rolled like an AVO or a Padron. Just one....please.


67 posted on 10/06/2004 1:50:44 PM PDT by Cosmo (I'm the pajamahadeen, and I vote!)
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To: tdadams

"Because I think the embargo is silly and fruitless, that's how. If we're to be consistent we'd have to embargo every nation with hostile intentions, communism, and slave labor.

We're not going to do that though because Walmart needs cheap shirts from Bangladesh and Radio Shack needs cheap electronics from China.

When we get consistent about this embargo business, then you can get sanctimonious about it with me."

OK. It's clear to me now. You obey laws with which you agree, and disobey the rest. I get it. Well, good luck to you, and I hope you continue to avoid a felony conviction. Remember, with that, you'd lose your right to vote and your right to own firearms.

Over a cigar? Not worth the risk, IMO.


68 posted on 10/06/2004 1:50:57 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Freebird Forever
The last time I entered Mexico one of the first questions posed to me was to inquire if I was interested in purchasing some Cuban cigars.

Let me guess, it was offered by a 14 year old boy and cost $5 for a box of 20. In that case, it's a good thing you didn't waste your money.

69 posted on 10/06/2004 1:51:49 PM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: carolynnjulie
Red Communist China is the real enemy, the real threat.

NO! NO! NO! Both sides of the aisle said they should have Most Favored Nation status.

70 posted on 10/06/2004 1:51:56 PM PDT by houeto
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To: Cosmo

"Thankfully the Padron Aniversario cigars are better than just about anything coming out of Cuba -- especiallly the 1926 series."

Oh, baby! Is that the truth.


71 posted on 10/06/2004 1:52:56 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: MineralMan
Not a conservative point of view, IMO.
I agree. Probably more of a liberterian leaning.
72 posted on 10/06/2004 1:53:40 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: Uncle Vlad

I just had an X3 Belicoso that was probably the best Opus I've ever had-- if not the best cigar. It's funny you mention the double corona. I have 5 of em in my humidor and will keep em for a while as the first one I smoked was a dog rocket, and was probably too moist to smoke in the first place.

I think we need to get a Freeper cigar passs going.


73 posted on 10/06/2004 1:53:48 PM PDT by Cosmo (I'm the pajamahadeen, and I vote!)
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To: camle

Have you ever seen jrcigar.com? They're about the biggest and best in the mail order business.


74 posted on 10/06/2004 1:54:21 PM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: Constitution Day

CD,

Just had to ping ya!


75 posted on 10/06/2004 1:54:32 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: camle

It can all be done, there is oodles of cash ready and waiting, and I'm going to be in the middle of it all.


76 posted on 10/06/2004 1:55:12 PM PDT by Guillermo (OJ is innocent because Mark Fuhrman said the "N" word.)
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To: MineralMan
imagine yourself slapped with a felony conviction. How's that going to sit? And over a cigar, for pete's sake.

I'm glad you brought that up. When I used to think of felons, I'd think of dangerous criminals: murderers, rapists, bank robbers, arsonists, etc...

What kind of country lumps in folks who smoke the wrong cigars in with that lot? And exactly what does that say about the character and judgement of the people making its laws?

Not to mention, exactly what business does the government have telling you where you can go? Is this East Germany? Are we little kids? Are we farm animals?

77 posted on 10/06/2004 1:55:23 PM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Cosmo
Exactly.

When you fire up a 20+ dollar cigar and it won't draw or burns like a poorly rolled joint, it is frustrating to say the least.

78 posted on 10/06/2004 1:55:58 PM PDT by wireman
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To: Moleman

Anyone who believes China is communist hasn't been paying attention. They abandoned that a couple of decades ago in favor of capitalism. Fascist capitalism, to be sure, but certainly Commie In Name Only.


79 posted on 10/06/2004 1:56:03 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: tdadams

i kinda remember gong there, but the other site was cheaper for the same stogies


80 posted on 10/06/2004 1:56:21 PM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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