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NY Times Reporter Judith Miller Ordered To Jail.
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Posted on 10/07/2004 5:14:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Per Foxnews. Judith Miller refuses to name her sources in the CIA Leak Case.

A federal judge has ordered her to jail. She will be allowed to remain free while her case is on appeal.

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KEYWORDS: allyoursources; arebelongtous; cialeak; miller; napalminthemorning
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To: ConservativeMan55

Clymeress.


101 posted on 10/07/2004 7:13:35 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Fishtalk
And also, why isn't Robert Novak being subpoena'd?

I assume he has testified.

Several reporters have testified (several more are under subpoena right now) and some resisted and been threatened with or actually cited with contempt. Tim Russert was threatened and testified and Matt Cooper at TIME was found in contempt but testified before being sent to the hoosegow.

The investigation is broader than the Plame business and the NYT knows it and they don't like it.

I personally have not thought Judith Miller was complicit in any wrongdoing and think she might be more a witness to what they're looking into. We'll see.

102 posted on 10/07/2004 7:18:00 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: prairiebreeze
I haven't followed this story much, but if I understand it right it was Novak who reported the name, right? did he ever say who told him?
103 posted on 10/07/2004 7:22:55 PM PDT by tazannie
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To: don-o

To amend my one post, I don't know that the real sources or whatever Fitzgerald is getting at have testified.

I do know that Scooter Libby in Cheney's office was publicly accused by Wilson of being the number one suspect in "leaking" the information to Novak so Libby told the prosecutor he did not. Further he waived any confidentiality regarding discussions of this matter with reporters. Even in the face of that narrow testimony being requested---that reporters testify if that was true, that Libby did not give them Plame's involvement in her husband's trip to Niger (and I can't resist adding here that a logical assessment of known data prior to this charge being leveled pointed to it being well nigh impossible that the "leak" emanated from the WH, including Cheney's office and the media ignored this data in favor of pushing the innuendo of Wilson's smear)--they resisted on the grounds of protecting their sources.

That strikes me as insane.

Libby was asking that they clear his name here and they did not want to do it.

Now, as to the rest of what the investigation might be looking at, I agree there are times when a source should be protected, but it is not a blanket right that they can just throw over everything they do because they happen to draw a paycheck from what purports to be a "news" organization.


104 posted on 10/07/2004 7:37:38 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Payback time.

They should jail Sulzberger too, for contempt of court.


105 posted on 10/07/2004 7:58:02 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cyncooper
Remember the NYT itself DEMANDED this investigation and DEMANDED that Novak reveal who had "leaked" (what a joke) Plame's "name". Where oh where was their vaunted respect for the First Amendment there, hm?

Are you sure this is correct? It's hard to believe the NYTimes did this without some caveats about freedom of the Press.

I did a Google looking for the article. All I came up with was this

Novak Agonistes

Perhaps you can provide a link.

The Judge has characterized the prosecutor's efforts to compel journalists to reveal their sources in this case as restrained - but necessary given his lack of results when pursuing other avenues. Now if Novak has testified and revealed his sources no further pursuit would be necessary. If he didn't reveal his sources then it would be he rather than Miller who'd facing jail time. And if he hasn't been called then one can, rightly, question the legitimacy of the investigation.

Finally, other threads led me to believe that Miller was being asked to reveal her sources on another matter - not on the Plame case. Were they wrong - or is this article wrong?

106 posted on 10/07/2004 8:08:14 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

Miller is under subpoena in two cases, so your assumption that this article or the other threads discussing the other case is wrong. Both this article and the other threads are right. Some of us have surmised both investigations are connected, though.

Novak revealing his sources would end the matter only to those who wish to follow the original Wilsonian talking points. I've told you before you're wrong to do so and the case trundles along going against the conventional wisdom with the NYT wailing and gnashing about the "expansion" of the investigation.

Too bad so sad. They did indeed call for an investigation of the Novak "leak" and now they don't like it. They probably didn't think an investigation would ever really be done and they could just use it to bash Bush with.


107 posted on 10/07/2004 8:40:24 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: don-o
"Reporters, of whatever persuasion in jail is not a good thing"

Hey kid, in the Internet Age we are *all* reporters. Ask yourself how lenient the judge would be to you if you withheld pertinent information in a federal felony case, then compare your own personal answer to the judge in this case letting the woman remain free pending the result of her appeal.

The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!

108 posted on 10/07/2004 9:39:19 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: cyncooper
Novak revealing his sources would end the matter only to those who wish to follow the original Wilsonian talking points.

It would not be necessary to compel anyone else to reveal those sources. That's all I meant and I think it's obvious.

That the government might feel compelled to enlarge the investigation beyond that to other leaks and issues surrounding the Plame-Wilson-Niger-Uranium business also seems reasonable.

That the government might feel compelled to investigate these other matters rather than investigating the leak of Plame's identity is totally unacceptable. I've told you that before and I reiterate.

109 posted on 10/07/2004 10:01:39 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: cyncooper
They did indeed call for an investigation of the Novak "leak" and now they don't like it.

I assume they did so publicly in a published article (otherwise how would you know about it?). Can you provide a link?

110 posted on 10/07/2004 10:05:09 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
if Novak has testified and revealed his sources no further pursuit would be necessary. If he didn't reveal his sources then it would be he rather than Miller who'd facing jail time. And if he hasn't been called then one can, rightly, question the legitimacy of the investigation.

Finally, other threads led me to believe that Miller was being asked to reveal her sources on another matter - not on the Plame case. Were they wrong - or is this article wrong?

According to what I've read in the WaPost and elsewhere, no one knows whether Novak has been subpoenaed, or if he's testified. He's not talking about it.

I've also read a report -- Editor & Publisher, IIRC, that said Miller was asked to reveal her source on another matter, but that might have been speculation, based on the fact that Miller never wrote about the Plame/Wilson affair.

The case appears to involve more than the Plame "leak," perhaps because the same parties are involved in other leaks to the media on classified matters.

111 posted on 10/07/2004 10:12:35 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad

Read posts #107 and 109. Maybe there are some answers there. Maybe.


112 posted on 10/07/2004 10:19:21 PM PDT by liberallarry
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113 posted on 10/07/2004 11:04:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: ConservativeMan55
The "99 names" title is a good one, although I can't claim to have finished it (yet). I'd be surprised to learn that she was selected for jail for reasons other than because A) she wrote that book (it's not too popular among Arabs) and B) because she works for the NY Times (plays well in Peoria). Regarding her political orientation, "While Miller's article has certainly received wide notice, what's less well known is her formal link to the Middle East Forum, a hawkish, political pressure group that advocates using U.S. military force if necessary to oust Syria from Lebanon." *
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

Election 2004 threads on FR

114 posted on 10/07/2004 11:11:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Direct link to the article, btw .....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134791,00.html


115 posted on 10/08/2004 1:46:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (The GOP throw their trash out. The DemocRATS worship theirs.)
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To: devolve; ConservativeMan55; Happy2BMe
From the link @ #26:

"The pending imprisonment of Judy Miller is an attack on the ability of all journalists to report on the actions of governments, corporations and others. The Times will continue to fight for the ability of journalists to provide the people of this nation with the essential information they need to evaluate issues affecting our country and the world."

ha! So since when has it been the NY Times practice to "provide essential information???" They are the mouthpiece of the DNC and spin machine/smear machine against the GOP.





116 posted on 10/08/2004 1:57:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (The GOP throw their trash out. The DemocRATS worship theirs.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Well, now the Democrats can't say no one went to jail over the leak...


117 posted on 10/08/2004 2:46:49 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: ConservativeMan55

How many NYTimes reporters would go to jail to protect a Republican administration?

Something is fishy here.


118 posted on 10/08/2004 3:09:27 AM PDT by KidGlock
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To: MeekOneGOP

bttt


119 posted on 10/08/2004 4:27:26 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: cyncooper
so Libby told the prosecutor he did not.

I missed that. So Scooter testified under oath that he didn't leak the information?
120 posted on 10/08/2004 5:42:49 AM PDT by lelio
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