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Iranian Alert - October 10, 2004 [EST]- IRAN LIVE THREAD - "Americans for Regime Change in Iran"
Regime Change Iran ^ | 10.10.2004 | DoctorZin

Posted on 10/09/2004 9:03:22 PM PDT by DoctorZIn

The US media still largely ignores news regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran. As Tony Snow of the Fox News Network has put it, “this is probably the most under-reported news story of the year.” As a result, most American’s are unaware that the Islamic Republic of Iran is NOT supported by the masses of Iranians today. Modern Iranians are among the most pro-American in the Middle East. In fact they were one of the first countries to have spontaneous candlelight vigils after the 911 tragedy (see photo).

There is a popular revolt against the Iranian regime brewing in Iran today. I began these daily threads June 10th 2003. On that date Iranians once again began taking to the streets to express their desire for a regime change. Today in Iran, most want to replace the regime with a secular democracy.

The regime is working hard to keep the news about the protest movement in Iran from being reported. Unfortunately, the regime has successfully prohibited western news reporters from covering the demonstrations. The voices of discontent within Iran are sometime murdered, more often imprisoned. Still the people continue to take to the streets to demonstrate against the regime.

In support of this revolt, Iranians in America have been broadcasting news stories by satellite into Iran. This 21st century news link has greatly encouraged these protests. The regime has been attempting to jam the signals, and locate the satellite dishes. Still the people violate the law and listen to these broadcasts. Iranians also use the Internet and the regime attempts to block their access to news against the regime. In spite of this, many Iranians inside of Iran read these posts daily to keep informed of the events in their own country.

This daily thread contains nearly all of the English news reports on Iran. It is thorough. If you follow this thread you will witness, I believe, the transformation of a nation. This daily thread provides a central place where those interested in the events in Iran can find the best news and commentary. The news stories and commentary will from time to time include material from the regime itself. But if you read the post you will discover for yourself, the real story of what is occurring in Iran and its effects on the war on terror.

I am not of Iranian heritage. I am an American committed to supporting the efforts of those in Iran seeking to replace their government with a secular democracy. I am in contact with leaders of the Iranian community here in the United States and in Iran itself.

If you read the daily posts you will gain a better understanding of the US war on terrorism, the Middle East and why we need to support a change of regime in Iran. Feel free to ask your questions and post news stories you discover in the weeks to come.

If all goes well Iran will be free soon and I am convinced become a major ally in the war on terrorism. The regime will fall. Iran will be free. It is just a matter of time.

DoctorZin



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1 posted on 10/09/2004 9:03:26 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
The problem is that the DNC = MSM support the mullahs.
Why? $$$$$$$$$$ given to the DNC and the owners of the MSM.


2 posted on 10/09/2004 9:05:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom; McGavin999; Hinoki Cypress; ...
Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

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3 posted on 10/09/2004 9:05:57 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Iran likes Kerry deal

to supply nuke fuel
Islamic Republic to review 'great bargain'
but will still pursue its 'legitimate right'


Posted: October 9, 2004
6:00 p.m. Eastern


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Tehran would welcome John Kerry's proposal to supply nuclear fuel, Hossein Musavian, the head Iran's Supreme National Security Council's foreign policy committee, announced today.

First outlined in a June speech, Kerry's plan to provide Iran with nuclear fuel in exchange for a pledge to use it for peaceful purposes only was unveiled to the American public during the first presidential debate.

"I think the United States should have offered the opportunity to provide the nuclear fuel, test them, see whether or not they were actually looking for it for peaceful purposes," Kerry said in a critique of the Bush administration's handling of Tehran's nuclear program, which the Iranians claim is only for civilian purposes.

"If they weren't willing to work a deal, then we could have put sanctions together," Kerry said of Tehran. "The president did nothing."

Initially, Iran rejected the idea, saying that reliance on foreign supplies would jeopardize its nuclear program.

Musavian told Reuters that Kerry's offer was also dismissed because officials could not tell if it was genuine or merely rhetoric in the U.S. presidential campaign. "If it is part of Kerry's election campaign ... we do not want to be part of it," he said. "Let the Americans play their game themselves."

But, now, the Iranians have changed their tune. Musavian says the Islamic Republic would welcome what Kerry running mate John Edwards has described as a "great bargain," and the proposal will be reviewed. Iran, however, should be allowed to pursue its "peaceful nuclear program," he made clear.

"Iran welcomes any constructive proposal from any American candidate," Musavian told Reuters. But "our legitimate right of pursuing peaceful nuclear technology should be considered," he said.

Musavian blames a history of "hostile" U.S. policies toward Iran, going back to the Reagan era, for his refusal to engage in direct talks on the nuclear issue with Washington. "It is because of 20 years of mistrust ... Up to now, Americans have not shown any sign of good will," he charged.

Edwards told the Washington Post in August that if Iran failed to take Kerry's "great bargain," it would be confirmation that the country is building nuclear weapons under the cover of developing a peaceful source of power.

WorldNetDaily has previously reported that Tehran is already engaged in an ambitious program to develop nuclear weapons to compliment its recently attained ballistic missile capabilities. According to the latest intelligence reports, Iran has decided at the highest levels of government to produce a bomb within the next four months.

Edwards assures that if Tehran accepted the proposal and subsequently cheated, Kerry could be counted upon to pull together a coalition of European allies to impose sanctions. "If we are engaging with Iranians in an effort to reach this great bargain and if, in fact, this is a bluff that they are trying to develop nuclear weapons capability, then we know that our European friends will stand with us," Edwards said.

4 posted on 10/09/2004 9:06:30 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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The people of Iran who seek their God given right to liberty are in my prayers everyday.

Keep up the great work DoctorZIn, The fever of Liberty is spreading, Afghanistan seems to be infected with it :-)

God Bless,

Mike

6 posted on 10/09/2004 9:09:05 PM PDT by MJY1288 (KERRY SAYS WE MUST PASS A GLOBAL TEST IN ORDER TO DEFEND OURSELVES)
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Afghan voters brave threats in Taliban heartland

By Mike Collett-White

Inside the compound, UN workers explained to Afghans voting for the first time how democracy worked — a simple tick beside their candidate of choice


AFGHAN men and women across the volatile south ignored the threat of militant attacks on Saturday, queuing at polling stations in villages and towns that were Taliban heartland three years ago.

In the main southern city of Kandahar, the atmosphere was festive as large crowds of men pushed to get into a voting site near the blue-tiled Kherqi Sharif mosque.

On the other side of the street, a trickle of women covered in burqa veils entered a school to take part in Afghanistan’s first direct presidential poll.

“We came here to vote for peace and stability and freedom for women,” said Raihana, a 37-year-old mother of eight who lived in exile in Iran for 14 years to flee war. “I am illiterate and I want a chance to learn,” she said from behind her heavy veil. “If the Taliban were in power, our lives would still be in ruins.”

Preparations for the election were plagued by logistical challenges and security threats in the south and southeast, where the death toll from guerrilla attacks among civilians and security personnel has been highest. The 472 polling stations in five southern provinces are far fewer than the United Nations would have liked, voter registration is lower than average and fewer than 300,000 women will vote here in this ultra-conservative Islamic society.

In some ways the success or otherwise of the election in these troubled areas will be the true test for Afghanistan and for the United States government, which wants to hold up the process as a foreign policy success and an example for Iraq.

‘Urban terrorism’: On the eve of the landmark ballot, Kandahar governor Yusuf Pashtun warned of the threat of “urban terrorism”, or a major Taliban attack, in heavily populated areas.

So far these have failed to materialise, although Afghan soldiers intercepted a truck carrying 60,000 litres of fuel and primed with explosives outside the city on Thursday, averting what Pashtun said could have been a “catastrophic” blast.

Officials in Kunar province, east of Kabul, said several rockets were fired in two villages overnight but there were no casualties. Security in Kandahar was tight, with Afghan police carrying rifles guarding polling sites and searching people entering to vote. US armoured Humvee vehicles mounted with machine guns rolled through town in a show of strength.

People were likely to be more nervous about voting in remote districts of Kandahar, Zabul, Helmand and Uruzugan provinces, where Taliban remnants have been most deadly.

President Hamid Karzai, who is from Kandahar and an ethnic Pashtun like most in the south, is expected to do well in the region, and many voters said they had backed the favourite. At one polling site, young members of Karzai’s campaign team wearing baseball caps emblazoned with his picture told voters to support him, in an apparent breach of election rules.

Inside the compound, UN workers explained to Afghans voting for the first time how democracy worked — a simple tick beside their candidate of choice.

“This is the first time I have voted in my life,” beamed Mullah Abdul Ghafar, 56, through a toothless grin. “Previous governments did not allow me to choose my leader,” said the man, his white beard matching his turban.

Despite euphoria in central Kandahar, the vote is not universally popular across the south, where some favour the ousted Taliban and its strict interpretation of Islamic laws to a US-backed government in Kabul propped up by thousands of foreign soldiers in the country.

Even some of those who voted on the coolest morning of the year in this normally hot and dusty city were not wholly critical of the hardline militia, widely credited for bringing better security than exists today. “There were a number of Afghan Taliban who were good people, but the Pakistanis and Arabs tried to destroy our lives,” said Abdul Zahir, a 43-year-old with a greying beard and grey turban. reuters

7 posted on 10/09/2004 9:09:22 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: MJY1288

Your right.
Elections in Afghanistan and soon in Iraq is going to create tremendous pressure for freedom in Iran.


8 posted on 10/09/2004 9:11:03 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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AFGHANS WENT TO THE POLLS AMIDST CONTROVERSIES

By Safa Haeri
Posted Saturday, October 9, 2004

KABOL, 9 Oct. (IPS) Elections in Afghanistan, the first more or less free and democratic exercise ever held in this central Asian nation, ended amid controversy over an ink, supposed to be indelible used to mark voters fingers to prevent fraud but found that it could be washed easily, leading to fears of manipulations.

More than 10.5 million Afghanis, including for the first time in the history of the Muslims dominated country over 4 million women went to some 22,000 polling stations -- women voted at separate booths from the men, in keeping with this nation's conservative Islamic leaning -- across the county to elect their president, with Mr. Hamed Karzai, the incumbent President-Prime Minister installed two years ago by the West and backed by the United States given by most analysts as the favourite.

Fourteen candidates called for the vote to be halted because of irregularities.

However, the process, considered by most observers as “historic” without the violence predicted by the remnants of the Taleban and other islamist groups opposed to free elections was suspended in some polling stations temporarily due to an ink supposed to be indelible but denounced by the majority of the candidates as being “washable”.

Fourteen candidates out of the 15 fighting for the top job, including Mr. Yunes Qanooni, a Tajik considered as the top rival to Mr. Karzai, an ethnic Pashtoun, called for the vote to be halted because of irregularities.

"To prevent fraud in the process of the election, Qanooni wants the election immediately stopped", the French news agency AFO quoted one Qanooni’s aide as having said.

Thirteen other candidates also called for the election to be halted, saying it was not legitimate, candidate Abdul Satar Sirat said, claiming to speak on behalf of the others.

"We 14 candidates announce that the election should be stopped immediately", he told reporters after a meeting at his house in Kabol, adding that they would not recognize the outcome as valid.

"Today's election is not a legitimate election. We are not a part of today's election", Mr. Serat said after a meeting of most of the 15 candidates and the representatives of the others.

Flanked by all those who attended the meeting, Serat accused election authorities of favouring the US-backed Karzai and not being able to prevent multiple voting.
But officials minimised the problem, blaming some electoral officials for using the wrong pen to mark voters' fingers with ink, which was found to wash off easily.

“Halting the vote at this time is unjustified and would deny these individuals the right to vote", said election official Ray Kennedy.

Mr. Farooq Wardak, an official of the Joint Election Monitoring Board said: "We would not simply stop the elections as they ask but we do our assessments and the JEMB will decide either to stop or not stop", he said.

Mrs Jalal, the lone female candidate told the American news agency Associated Press: "The ink that is being used can be rubbed off in a minute. Voters can vote 10 times".

"It is not only the ink issue but there are several other unlawful acts", the aide said.

"For example in the places where there are more Karzai supporters the polling stations are open but where there are more supporters for other candidates the stations are closed with officials saying 'there are no ballot papers, there is no ink", he explained.

Election workers reprimanded several Karzai campaign officials for coming to lobby voters at site, a violation of electoral law.

In his first reaction to the protest, Mr. Karzai, who voted in the presidential palace early morning, ruled out cancellation of the elections, saying that he would respect the outcome of the polling.

Journalists covering the race said as the voting ended, Mr. Zalmay Khalilzad, the Afghan-born American ambassador was discussing with some of the contesters, including Mr. Qanooni.

Around 800.000 Afghanis living in neighbouring Pakistan and 400.000 in Iran also took part in the exercise.

Contrary to neighbouring Islamic Republic of Iran, where women can vote and also be elected to the Majles, or parliament, but can not become president, Afghanistan’s Islam-based laws allows women running for the presidency, as confirmed by the presence of Mrs. Mas’ouda Jala, a doctor who is among the 15 remaining candidates out of the original eighteen.

Voting was also mired with violence, as election officials reported the arrest of three Pakistanis who planned to detonate an explosive truck in the center of the city on polling day.

"This would have caused hundreds of deaths ... and the electoral process would have been derailed in the area", said Col. Ishaq Paiman, the Defense Ministry deputy spokesman.

A flurry of rockets landed in several cities around the country on Thursday and Friday, including one that hit a parking lot near the U.S. Embassy and another in the eastern city of Jalalabad.

The polling was observed by around 5,000 observers, including local agents from 35 political parties and 600foreign observers.

Former Afghan King, the ageing Mohammad Zaher Shah had called on Afghans to vote freely for their own favourite in the country's upcoming landmark presidential elections.
"I, as the father of the nation request you, dearest, to take part in this historical event and vote for your favourite candidate", he said in a statement on Wednesday, making it clear that his own favourite was Karzai, who bestowed on him the title of “the Father of the nation” after he was picked as Prime Minister by an emergency Loya Jirga, or grand council of tribal leaders in 2001.
Other prominent figures like former Prime Minister Borhanedddin Rabbani, have announced their support for Karzai.

In a recent talk with the Persian-Pashtoun service of the BBC, Mr. Karzai pledged inclusive government if elected, saying he wanted to get away from the coalition-style administration of the last three years which "had not got anywhere".
"I want to build a government which reflects the whole Afghan people", he said.

Bellow is a glossary to the Saturday elections:

CANDIDATES: Originally 18, including interim leader Hamed Karzai, former Interior Minister Yunes Qanooni, Uzbek strongman Abdul Rashid Dostum, and Mas’ouda Jalal, the only female candidate.

STAKES: The vote is Afghanistan's first-ever direct presidential vote and first national ballot since the fall of the Taleban, the ultra orthodox Muslims who ruled over the country before being booted out on November 2001 by the Americans, imposing strict Islamic laws, forbidding music and television and women from working. They also destroyed a big state of Lord Buddha in the city of Bamiyan. Karzai is hoping a victory will solidify his rule and allow him to take bolder steps to rebuild the country and fight the influence of warlords that still hold sway in much of the countryside.

POLLS OPEN: From 7 a.m. until 4 p.m. (0230 GMT to 1130 GMT) But was extended for another 2 hours due to long queues in some polling stations.

I want to build a government which reflects the whole Afghan people", Karzai pleged.

VOTING CENTRES: 4,807, each with separate polling booths so that men and women may vote apart to respect the country's Islamic customs.

VOTING STATIONS: There are 21,521 stations within the voting centres. Of these 12,354 will be for men, and 9,187 for women.

MONITORS: More than 16,000 domestic observers but only about 225 international monitors will be involved in overseeing the vote to guard against fraud and intimidation _ a turnout which has disappointed the United Nations.

VOTERS: Some 10.5 million people have registered within Afghanistan, about 740,000 in Pakistan, and there are believed to be another 400,000 to 600,000 eligible voters in Iran. 41 percent of those registered in Afghanistan are women, but that ratio is lower among Afghan refugees in Pakistan and in the deeply conservative Pashtoun belt in south-eastern Afghanistan.

POPULATION: There are believed to be about 25 million people in Afghanistan, though there has been no reliable census since decades of ruinous war forced millions to flee. Many have since returned.

RECENT HISTORY; Afghanistan was thrown into a bloody civil war from 1988, after the defeat of the Soviet Union’s mighty Red Army at the hands of the Jihadis, or mujahedeens, with fighters loyal to the then prime minister Golbodin Hekmatyar, a CIA informer belonging to the dominant Pashtoun ethnic, fighting forces of the Tajik warlord Ahmad Shjah Mas’oud, known as the Lion of Panjshir, killed on 9 September 2001 by Arab terrorists sent by Al-Qa’eda’s Saudi leader Ossama Ben Laden, 2 days before attacking targets in New York and Washington.

On 1996, the Taleban, supported by Pakistan and a population tired of 20 years of unabated civil war and Soviet occupation, enter Kabol, led by Mollah Mohammad Omar.

RESULTS: Election officials say it will take two weeks to count the vote because of the remote terrain of much of Afghanistan and a lack of experience with democratic votes. They hope to have partial results sooner, but say they don't know when a winner will be announced.

In separate announcements on the final day of the presidential campaign Wednesday, Syed Ishaq Gilani and Abdul Hasseb Aryan said they were dropping out of the race.

ENDS AFGHAN ELECTIONS 91004

9 posted on 10/09/2004 9:11:34 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Afghan elections peaceful in Pakistan

* 50 percent voter turnout: International Organisation for Migration
* Afghans want peace at home

By Shahzad Raza


ISLAMABAD: Hundreds of thousands of Afghan refugees in Pakistan exercised their right to vote in Afghanistan’s first presidential elections on Saturday under tight security.

The International Organisation for Migration (IOM), the agency administering the election, declared around 50 percent voter turnout. The voting was simultaneously held in Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan. Many voters said they voted for current Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Some told Daily Times that they voted for Mr Karzai because they want stability in their war-ravaged homeland.

The first Afghan to vote in Islamabad was 19-year old Moqadasa Siddiqui. “I am so very happy and proud. I hope that this election will bring peace to my country and I hope that my family will be able to return to our homeland,” she observed

The polls were peaceful throughout Pakistan, except for a few minor incidents in Peshawar and Hangu. The polling process was, however, not disrupted, said IOM Director for Out-of-Country Registration Peter Erben at a press conference.

He said voter turnout was good in Pakistan. “In Pakistan, the projected midday figure showed that 350,000 people had voted with four hours remaining before polling centres closed,” he said.

After polling concluded, the ballot boxes were sealed in the presence of IOM officials. They will be sent to Kabul under IOM supervision for vote counting.

IOM registered around 740,000 Afghan refugees in Pakistan to vote in the presidential election. In Iran, 600,000 registered Afghans voted. Mr Erben said IOM hopes for good turnout in Iran. In Pakistan, about 410,000 Afghans registered in the North West Frontier Province, 320,000 registered in Balochistan and 10,000 registered in Islamabad. Voters were not registered in Sindh and Punjab.

In Islamabad, a heavy police force was present at the capital’s four polling stations–two each for male and female voters. Inside the polling stations, Afghan origin security personnel conducted at least two body searches of everyone entering.

Voting began at 7am and concluded peacefully at 4pm. Before noon, a lacklustre response by voters was witnessed. However, a few hours before the end of polling, voters turned out.

“I have cast my vote in favour of Mr Karzai because I feel he is our president and can ensure stability in our country, which saw so many years of bloody conflicts,” said young Afghan refugee Ramin Hashmi. He said a majority of Afghan refugees living in Islamabad voted for Mr Karzai. He added that other presidential candidates were not as popular among the refugees as Mr Karzai.

Another Afghan refugee, Hafizullah Khan, who also voted for Mr Karzai, expressed hope that after the installation of an elected government in Afghanistan, the law and order situation would improve.

He said he and the majority of Afghan refugees wish to return to their homeland if there is an improvement in the law and order situation.

10 posted on 10/09/2004 9:12:02 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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EU not against Iran's civilian nuclear program


BRUSSELS (IRNA) -- The European Union Foreign Ministers' Council is to discuss Iran's nuclear program during its meeting in Luxembourg on Monday.

The ministers will focus on Iran's cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the IAEA's upcoming report on the Islamic Republic's nuclear program in November, EU sources told journalists in Brussels Friday.

"The vision that we had in the past is still there. We had in the past a position with Iran where we were not against the development of a civil nuclear program, where we were offering a trade and cooperation program, where we were offering support for WTO membership," said the EU sources, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Those still could be parts of our relationship with Iran but not in the current circumstances. The nuclear issue is crucial. We believe that it is very important that the EU, the U.S., the G8, Russia, Japan, we all stand together in a way on this issue that dos not allow Iran to drive a wedge between us," stressed the sources.

"The nuclear issue must be resolved. A military nuclear Iran is not acceptable to us and would fundamentally destabilize the region," added the sources.

The Council is expected to discuss the development of EU-Libya relations against the background of the December 2003 announcement by Libya that it would dismantle WMD programs.

As part of its policy of engagement with Libya, the Council is likely to decide to lift the EU arms embargo on Libya, which was imposed in 1986 by the European bloc.

The Council is expected to underline the importance of cooperation on migration issues and of improvements in the human rights situation in Libya.

It is likely to express concern over the plight of Bulgarian medical workers arrested in 1999.

On the Middle East, the Council is expected to deplore the Israeli atrocities committed in Gaza and condemn all acts of terrorism.

The Council will also discuss the issue of whether to lift the arms embargo on China.

The EU foreign ministers' meeting will also cover the situation in Sudan, Burma, the western Balkans and ties with India.

11 posted on 10/09/2004 9:12:28 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Russia should speed up construction of Bushehr power plant: MPs

Tehran Times Political Desk
TEHRAN (MNA) -- MP Reza Talai-Nik of the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Committee said on Saturday that the current exchanges of visits by Iranian and Russian officials indicate the two countries’ serious determination to deepen and expand relations in the economic, political, and defense spheres.

The two countries’ mutual interest in strengthening ties and implementing the previously signed memoranda of understanding is logical and necessary to defend the national security and interests of the two states, he added.

He stressed that Russia should compensate for the delays and expedite the process of peaceful nuclear cooperation with Iran in order to pave the way for the further expansion of bilateral relations.

The MP also said that Iran and Russia play a strategic role in responding to regional threats and Tehran-Moscow political, economic and defense cooperation is essential to prevent U.S. domination of the Middle East.

Meanwhile, MP Shokrollah Attarzadeh said on Friday that since Russia has resisted the U.S. pressure to discontinue its nuclear cooperation with Iran and has continued construction of the Bushehr nuclear power plant, Iran should adopt a positive attitude toward Iran-Russia bilateral relations.

Attarzadeh, who represents Bushehr in the Majlis, added that every country considers its interests on every occasion and if the Russians believe that good relations with Iran is in their best interests, they will resist the pressure even more than in the past.

MP Javad Jahangirzadeh, who represents Urumieh in the Majlis, said on Friday that Iranian and Russian officials’ discussions during exchanges of visits scheduled for the next few days should focus on strengthening mutual confidence and bilateral ties.

As two great regional powers, Iran and Russia play a significant role in maintaining regional peace and stability, he noted, but criticized certain Russian officials for their contradictory statements in regard to Iran’s problems in the international arena, adding that such remarks may strain relations between the two countries.

MP Hamid-Reza Haj-Babayi of the Majlis Presiding Board said on Friday that the Russians are well aware of the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran is an important country in the region.

Haj-Babayi said that the Islamic Republic of Iran has prioritized construction of the Bushehr nuclear power plant within the framework of its plan to develop nuclear technology and the plant will play a special role in Iran’s economic and industrial development.

However, if Russia continues delaying the construction of the Bushehr nuclear power plant, Iran’s Atomic Energy Agency (IAEO) should suspend the contract, he added.

Political analyst Ali Khorram said on Friday that Russia plays a special role in Iran’s nuclear program and since it is a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, consultations with Russia on the nuclear issue can be useful.

Dr. Khorram, who was formerly Iran’s representative at the UN disarmament and human rights commissions, said that lessons learned in Iran’s diplomacy on the nuclear issue could also be useful in discussions with Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf littoral states on the demarcation of maritime borders.

12 posted on 10/09/2004 9:12:58 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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U.S. sees Iran entering production phase of uranium enrichment

Kyodo - World News
Oct 9, 2004

The United States believes Iran's uranium enrichment is entering the full production stage from the experimental phase, a senior U.S. administration official said Saturday.

Noting Iran has converted "several tons" of uranium into hexafluoride, the feed material for centrifuges used to make weapons-grade uranium, the official told Kyodo News that it implies a "pretty extensive operation."

The official, requesting anonymity, indicated it would be unavoidable for the United States to seek to bring the Iranian nuclear case to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions.

"They don't have any intention of giving up the nuclear program," he said.

In late September, the International Atomic Energy Agency adopted a resolution censuring Iran's nuclear development program and urging Tehran to immediately halt its uranium enrichment activities.

Iran said earlier this month that it had processed several tons of uranium to prepare for enrichment.

The official said Iran should give up weapons of mass destruction programs by following the path of Libya.

After months of negotiations with the United States and Britain, Libya announced last December that it will voluntarily abandon all its weapons of mass destruction programs and accept international weapons inspectors.

The official also urged Japan to cancel an oil development deal with Iran.

"It's just a risky proposition I think for Japan, which needs energy security, to be dealing with a country that's so suspect to pursuing nuclear weapons," the official said.

"That's one reason why we've said, 'Look elsewhere for supplies and fuel, Libya and elsewhere, you don't need to deal with Iran and it's better not to,'" he said.

Japan and Iran in February signed an agreement on an oil development project in Azadegan, southern Iran, one of the world's largest oil fields.

The official said Japan has assured the United States that it will not proceed with the Azadegan project if there is evidence that Iran is involved in a nuclear weapons program.

On Iran's reported development of a missile with a range of 2,000 kilometers, the official said, "That's pretty close to what their missile range is."

"As long as they can now get the warhead to Eastern and Central Europe, which I think they can in this range, then they can intimidate" Europe, he said.

13 posted on 10/09/2004 9:13:25 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Iranian women banned from Iran-Germany game

Reuters - World News
Oct 9, 2004

TEHRAN - Germany remained unbeaten under new coach Juergen Klinsmann with a 2-0 win over Iran thanks to goals from Fabian Ernst and Thomas Brdaric in a friendly before a frenzied men-only crowd of 110,000 on Saturday.

Iran were hosting a major world soccer power for the first time in decades and as well as a huge crowd in the stadium there were another 150,000 fans outside who could not get tickets.

Iranian women were not allowed to see the match after the football federation on Tuesday upheld a ban on them entering stadiums even though women are the Islamic country's most passionate fans. However, German women were allowed to attend.

14 posted on 10/09/2004 9:13:50 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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More crackdowns.


15 posted on 10/09/2004 9:20:35 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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A sign is displayed at a movie theater about the Afghan elections next to a Afghan restaurant in the Little Kabul area of Fremont, Calif. Saturday, Oct. 9, 2004. Residents of Little Kabul, the nation's largest concentration of Afghan emigres, are watching closely as their homeland prepares to hold its first direct presidential election. As millions of voters in Afghanistan get ready to cast ballots Saturday, some residents of Fremont's Little Kabul see the landmark vote as a crucial step for a budding democracy. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)
16 posted on 10/09/2004 11:39:38 PM PDT by freedom44
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Iranian women were not allowed to see the match after the football federation on Tuesday upheld a ban on them entering stadiums even though women are the Islamic country's most passionate fans. However, German women were allowed to attend.

Are women still allowed to breathe in air in Iran?

17 posted on 10/10/2004 7:46:17 AM PDT by Reborn
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Iran Denies to Have Welcomed Kerry's Nuke Offer

LONDON, Oct 10 (IranMania) - A senior Iranian official Sunday denied a report which said Tehran would welcome Senator John Kerry`s proposal for a 'great bargain' to solve dispute over Iran's nuclear program, Iran's State News Agency (IRNA) reported.

"US presidential candidate John Kerry`s proposal is part of his electoral campaigning and we are not interested in being drawn into such issues," head of the foreign policy committee at Iran`s Supreme National Security Council Hossein Mousavian said.

Reuters news agency had quoted him as having welcomed the proposal, virtually made by vice presidential candidate Senator John Edwards.

Edwards had said that Kerry would be willing to supply Iran with nuclear fuel for power generation if Tehran abandons its own fuel-making capability and if Iran did not accept this offer, it would confirm Iran wanted to make an atom bomb.

In a fax sent to IRNA, Mousavian said, "Reuters news agency has filed a news as if I had welcomed Kerry`s proposal. "But we are rejecting direct negotiations with Washington about Iran`s nuclear program due to the United States` antagonistic policies."

http://www.iranmania.com/news/articleview/default.asp?NewsCode=25975&NewsKind=Current%20Affairs


18 posted on 10/10/2004 9:10:22 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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Iran to be Among World's Polyethylene Exporters

Sunday, October 10, 2004 - ©2004 IranMania.com

LONDON, Oct 10 (IranMania) - Iran will be among biggest exporters of polyethylene in the world by 2007 with implementation of a project on transfer of polyethylene to western provinces by pipeline.

According to the Persian language daily 'Etemad' on Sunday, the project will transfer some 1.5 mln tons of ethylene from Assalouyeh and Mahshahr to five provinces of Kohgilouyeh and Boyer Ahmad, Lorestan, Kermanshah, Kurdestan and West Azarbaijan.

The 1,650 kilometers transfer pipeline would provide feedstock for projects of five petrochemical complexes. In the 11th Olefin Project, only one ethylene production unit will produce 1.2 mln tons in one year.

Some 360,000 tons of ethylene excess capacity of the 8th Olefin Project would also enter this pipeline. The value of investment in five petrochemical projects, with the production capacity of 1.650 mln, is estimated to reach over $1.440 bln.

It is predicted the five complexes would sale $1.110 bln. The 11th Olefin Project in Assalouyeh, fed by 1.5 mln tons of ethane per year, will produce 1.2 mln tons of ethylene. Total investment of this project, including the Olefin unit, pipeline and five petrochemical complexes in western parts of the country, is estimated at $1.629 bln in addition to 4,480 bln rials.

The project will enjoy a 22% capital return. Inauguration of five petrochemical complexes, with production capacity of 1,650 tons of various polyethylene and ethylene glycol, would meet the needs of domestic consumption of Iran`s western, northern and central provinces.

Moreover, Iraq, Turkey and Syria can become good markets for export of Iran's polymer products. Iran's net imports amounted to some 64,000 in 2002 and it is predicted the export figure would hit 2.5 mln tons by 2007 through inauguration of underway projects.

http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp?NewsCode=25966&NewsKind=BusinessEconomy


19 posted on 10/10/2004 9:17:02 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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Technically, this isn't a 'crackdown', because women haven't been allowed in soccer stadiums. Just a reinforcement of the present ban.
Can't have women exposed to 1/2 naked men, can we?


20 posted on 10/10/2004 9:20:44 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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Conservatives in Iran Battle the Spread of Foreign Investment

Despite growing right-wing antagonism in Iran toward foreign companies, appliances like these Korean-made refrigerators are still sold widely.
Newsha Tavakolian/Polaris, for The New York Times
Despite growing right-wing antagonism in Iran toward foreign companies, appliances like these Korean-made refrigerators are still sold widely.

By NAZILA FATHI

Published: October 10, 2004

TEHRAN, Oct. 9 - Iran's hard-line politicians who came to power in February are spearheading a drive to stop economic liberalization, just as they are cracking down on social and political freedoms.

In August, Parliament passed a bill that gave it the right to order the government to cancel government contracts with two Turkish companies, forcing the moderate president, Mohammad Khatami, to cancel an official trip to Turkey. The newspaper Iran reported that three foreign companies canceled other investment agreements with Iran after Parliament passed the bill.

"From now on the government will not be able to negotiate with any foreign investor because they will tell the government that it does not have the necessary authority," said Abdullah Ramezanzadeh, the government spokesman.

He said the moves by the hard-liners were aimed at paralyzing the government and shutting it out of international affairs.

The hard-liners took over Parliament in February after an election in which supporters of reform stayed home, angry that most of their candidates had been thrown off the ballot and disillusioned with the pace of change.

Parliament claimed that the two deals with Turkey threatened national security. One was with Turkcell to operate Iran's second cellular phone network. The other one was with a Turkish-led engineering consortium, Tepe-Akfen-Vie, to run Iran's new airport. Hard-liners contended that the deal with Turkcell would permit it to listen to cellphone calls in Iran, and they accused TAV of having business with Israel.

The Revolutionary Guards shut down the Imam Khomeini airport on its opening day in May and threw out the Turkish company's staff. The company said it had spent $15 million on staff training and equipment.

Parliament also tried to prevent the government from selling state-run banks, but that move was blocked by the supreme religious leader, Ayatollah Ali Khameini, for reasons he did not explain. The government had hoped to sell selling $5.95 billion in state assets by next March, but Parliament has also rejected that plan, at least for now.

After the victory of the 1979 revolution, the government confiscated privately run industries. Most industries are outdated now and cannot operate at full capacity.

The hard-liners' actions come as Iran is benefiting from high prices for crude oil and a growing economy. The economy grew 6.7 percent last year but more than 80 percent of that came from oil revenues, and there has been double-digit inflation.

The official rate of unemployment is 15 percent, but the percentage among young people is higher. A million people are expected to enter the job market every year, and unemployment could grow to crisis levels.

"Only a modern and scientific method can resolve these problems," said Ahmad Zeidabadi, a journalist and political analyst in Tehran. "This group who has come to power is very traditional and relies on backward methods."

Mr. Ramezanzadeh, the government spokesman, said Mr. Khatami's government had been able to attract more foreign investments in the past two years than in the previous two decades. One of the largest contracts, for $460 million, was signed last October with Renault of France to start producing a car known as the L-90. Hard-liners oppose the deal.

Political analysts had predicted hard-liners would pursue a more open economic policy ahead of presidential elections in May 2005, to win support from an electorate frustrated with social and political repression. During the elections in February, newspapers close to the hard-liners suggested "a Chinese model," raising hopes that the new group might pursue economic prosperity.

"Instead they are implementing a North Korean model," said Hamidreza Jalaipour, a sociologist at Tehran University. "They are closing economic, social and political liberties."

Rahim Ostkui, an opposition economist, said Parliament's measures would damage economic development and production. "We should expect production to drop, unemployment, poverty and corruption to increase with these policies," he said.

21 posted on 10/10/2004 9:55:04 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Regime Flip-Flops on Kerry's "Great Nuclear Bargain"

SMCCDI (Information Service)
Oct 10, 2004

A senior Islamic regime official denied, today, a yesterday's Reuters report, which had stated that the Mullahcracy would welcome Senator John Kerry's proposal for a 'great nuclear bargain' to solve dispute over Iran's nuclear program.

This evident one day flip-flop move follows most likely the sudden understanding, by the regime's strategists and its US based apologists, of the negative consequences for their Democrat protege's victory in the upcoming US Presidential elections.

Reuters had quoted Mousavian, head of the foreign policy committee at the regime's Supreme National Security Council, as having welcomed the proposal, made by Senator John Edwards. The Democrat VP candidate had said that John Kerry would be willing to supply Iran with nuclear fuel for power generation if Tehran abandons its own fuel-making capability.

In a  fax sent to IRNA, Mousavian said, "Reuters news agency has filed a news as if I had welcomed Kerry`s proposal. "But we are rejecting direct negotiations with Washington about Iran`s nuclear program due to the United States` antagonistic policies."

Mousavian is the former Islamic regime's Ambassador in Germany. He had to return back to Iran following the scandal raised over the 1997 Mykonos trial of Berlin.

The accredited Ambassador was involved in the murders of several Iranian dissidents, on the German soil, by offering the necessary logistics to the regime's hit squads.

22 posted on 10/10/2004 9:57:37 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Sabotage an option against Iran's atomic plans

Reuters - World News
Oct 10, 2004

JERUSALEM - Somewhere between sanctions and air strikes lurks a third option for those who seek to stop Iran's atomic programme in its tracks: sabotage.

Politically deniable -- unlike failed diplomacy -- and much subtler than region-rattling military offensives, covert action of the kind used elsewhere by Israel and the United States could already be under way against the Islamic republic, experts say.

"Iran has been trying to go nuclear since the 1970s and has not yet managed," said Gad Shimron, a veteran of Israel's Mossad spy service who now writes on defence issues.

"Who's to say there has not been sabotage already, now proving its worth?"

Britain's Daily Telegraph newspaper in August quoted Bush administration officials as saying sabotage tactics were being considered for Tehran. The Jewish state has said "all options" are kosher for preventing its arch-foe getting the bomb.

The United States and Israel accuse Iran of concealing a plan to build a bomb, but Tehran says its nuclear programme is dedicated solely to meeting electricity demand.

Independent experts question, however, whether any disruption of Iran's supply lines through sabotage or menacing of its nuclear scientists would have a lasting effect on a network that has resisted scrutiny from the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

"Historically, sabotage has served to delay programmes but has not been successful in terminating them," said Gary Samore, a former White House adviser on non-proliferation now with the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

He cited a Norwegian heavy water plant struck by saboteurs between 1942 and 1944 to stop the Nazis getting the bomb -- a quest finally laid to rest by Germany's defeat in World War Two.

"Delay is good if, in the meantime, something conclusive happens -- either a change of regime or a successful war."

Some Middle East security experts say even delays have key strategic value in a region notorious for its instability.

COVERT CAMPAIGN PRECEDED OSIRAQ

The precedent usually cited for a military strike on Iranian atomic sites is Israel's 1981 bombing of the Iraqi reactor at Osiraq. That move drove Saddam Hussein's nuclear programme underground until it was uncovered by the IAEA in 1991.

Well before Osiraq, a quieter campaign was in full swing.

Nuclear components destined for Baghdad were blown up in a French port. An Egyptian nuclear physicist hired by Iraq was killed in his Paris hotel. Bombs exploded near an Italian firm supplying Saddam Hussein with laboratories for atomic testing.

Saddam blamed the United States and Israel for the sabotage spree. Neither country commented, but then Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin told an American interviewer he hoped France and Italy had "learned their lesson" for helping Iraq.

Tehran fears it could be next in line after U.S.-led forces toppled Saddam last year.

"The Iranians are very clear about what happened to the Iraqi nuclear programme and would have learned their lessons," said Alex Vatanka, an analyst with Jane's Sentinel Security Assessments. "In terms of supply lines and technology, they are extremely unlikely to use limited sources."

Among Iran's nuclear suppliers have been North Korea, Pakistan and China, all hard for Western diplomats to monitor.

Under its 1993 Counterproliferation Initiative, Washington claimed the right to act covertly against illicit weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programmes. But a later U.S.-led treaty, the Proliferation Security Initiative, includes Russia, which also openly provides Iran with nuclear know-how.

A QUESTION OF JURISDICTION

While no one accuses countries friendly to the United States of knowingly arming Iran, private citizens may not feel such constraint, a fact that could complicate sabotage attempts.

"The understanding in the intelligence world is that those individuals who help rogue regimes knowingly put themselves at risk of reprisal," said Shimron.

"An agency that wants to operate in a friendly country has to weigh the possible fallout, but usually there is enough coordination between governments to ensure that it all goes smoothly as long as no one is needlessly hurt."

Vatanka said several Iranians who acquired scientific training in the West had answered a call by Tehran to return and work on their homeland's atomic programme.

A German man is also under investigation for what national media charged was an attempt to supply Iran with components for nuclear weapons.

"If the Israelis believe sabotage is the only way of stopping Iran getting the bomb, I think they will go with it, even if this ends up harming relations with Europe," Vatanka said. "The Europeans have invested enormous diplomacy in Iran, but that means little to those planning Israel's self-defence."

A new report by the Dubai think-tank Gulf Research Centre says Tehran could retaliate for any sabotage on its atomic plans by ordering proxies to attack U.S. targets in the Gulf or stepping up support for Palestinian militants fighting Israel.

There are also risks if the secrecy around sabotage lapses.

In 1963, Swiss police nabbed an Israeli suspected of threatening the daughter of a German scientist linked with Egypt's missile programme. The ensuing trial clouded Israel's relations with West Germany and Switzerland and prompted the Mossad chief's resignation, although many historians believe it also served as a venue for publicising Egypt's military plans.

23 posted on 10/10/2004 10:03:44 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Another execution in Iran

AFP-World News
Oct 10, 2004

TEHRAN- An Iranian man convicted of armed robbery was publicly hanged in the southern city of Ahwaz, the official news agency IRNA reported.

The man, only identified as Mohammad D., was convicted of involvement in four armed robberies and "had terrified people by shooting and injuring them (and) stealing money and cars", a court statement said.

Murder, armed robbery, rape, apostasy and serious drug trafficking are all punishable by death in Iran.

According to reports in Iran's main newspapers and other media monitored by AFP, at least 80 people have been executed in Iran this year.

Amnesty International has reported that at least 108 executions took place in 2003 and another 113 in 2002.

SMCCDI Note:The Islamic regime uses various labels, such as, Drug Smuggler, Spy, Rapist, Bandit or Hooligan in order to qualify its armed opponents in an effort to help its European and Japanese Collaborators in their effort to justify the continuation of their Economic relations with the Mullahcracy.

24 posted on 10/10/2004 11:19:02 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Russia urges Iran to heed IAEA's nuclear demands

10 Oct 2004 15:59:27 GMT
Source: Reuters
By Parisa Hafezi

TEHRAN, Oct 10 (Reuters) - Russia urged Iran on Sunday to heed the U.N. nuclear watchdog's call for it to suspend sensitive nuclear work that could be used to make atomic bomb material.

Iran, in turn, said it was ready to give whatever assurances were required to show that it will not use nuclear technology to make atomic weapons.

Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi said that all Iran asked in return was for the world to accept its right to a peaceful nuclear programme to generate electricity.

Iran hid parts of its nuclear programme for nearly two decades, fuelling U.S. accusations that it is secretly developing atomic arms.

Iran denies this but has refused to comply with demands made by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) that it halt all activities related to uranium enrichment, a process that can be used to make fuel for power reactors or for bombs.

Visiting Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov urged Iran to reconsider.

"As (Russian President Vladimir) Putin has suggested before, it is better if Iran listens to the agency's call. This is better for everyone," he told a joint news conference in Tehran with Kharrazi.

The United States wants Iran's case to be sent to the United Nations Security Council for possible sanctions if Iran has not complied with IAEA demands by the time of the U.N. watchdog's next meeting in late November.

Iran last week said it had converted several tonnes of raw uranium to prepare it for enrichment.

READY TO GIVE ASSURANCES

"Nuclear technology, including enriching uranium, is Iran's right and Iran will never abandon its right," Kharrazi said.

"But at the same time Iran is ready to review all the proposals with which it can assure the international community that Iran's nuclear programme has no military purposes."

In an interview with Reuters on Saturday, a senior Iranian official said Tehran was even willing to listen to ideas from the United States, such as one put forward by Sen. John Kerry's running mate Sen. John Edwards, to resolve the dispute over Iran's nuclear ambitions.

"Iran welcomes any constructive proposal from any American candidate," said Hossein Mousavian, Iran's delegation head at recent International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) meetings.

Edwards has said a Kerry government would be willing to supply Iran with nuclear fuel for power generation if Tehran abandons its own fuel-making capability. If Iran refused the offer it would confirm it wants to make atomic weapons, Edwards has said.

Asked about Mousavian's comments Kharrazi confirmed the Iran was willing to listen to such proposals.

"We welcome any constructive proposal which preserves Iran's rights and also removes Western countries' concerns," he said.

Lavrov, whose country's technical support for Iran's nuclear programme has annoyed Washington, said Moscow and Tehran were in the final stages of reaching an agreement on the supply and return of nuclear fuel for Iran's first nuclear reactor which is being built with Russian help.

The Bushehr reactor in southern Iran is due to come onstream in late 2006.

25 posted on 10/10/2004 11:24:48 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Russia against referral of Iran to UN Security Council

TEHRAN (AFP) - Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said here Sunday that Moscow was opposed to seeing Iran referred to the UN Security Council over its nuclear programme.

"To start thinking of any scenario which is not constructive to our point of view is premature and could be counter-productive," Lavrov said at a joint news conference with his Iranian counterpart Kamal Kharazi.

"We will be expecting the cooperation between Iran and the IAEA to continue," Lavrov added.

He was responding to a question over whether Russia would use its veto power at the Security Council if Iran was referred to the body by the UN's nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

On September 18, the IAEA board called on Iran to "immediately" widen a suspension of enrichment to include all uranium enrichment-related activities.

Iran has so far refused to do so and is facing a November 25 deadline. It risks being referred to the Security Council, something the United States -- which accuses Iran of seeking nuclear weapons -- has been pushing for.

While Lavrov said it was "in Iran's and everybody's interest to suspend enrichment" activities, he gave no sign that Russia was willing to back away from a deal to build the Islamic republic's first nuclear plant and provide it with fuel.

On the provision of nuclear fuel, a deal that has been held up for several months amid a dispute over pricing and the return of spent fuel, Lavrov said he now expected a contract would be signed "in the near future".

And he said he saw "no linkage" between the deal and the November 25 deadline set by the IAEA.

For his part, Kharazi reiterated the regimes refusal to give up its work on the nuclear fuel cycle, but added Iran was "ready to accept all mechanisms to give proof that there is no deviation of the Iranian nuclear programme."

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26 posted on 10/10/2004 11:27:16 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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This is the first of a series on Iran posted to the Daily Threat Matrix Thread.

The Persian Gambit - Part 1

Introduction

In this the first part of my own war gaming of Iranian responses to strikes against its nuclear program and presents an over-view of Iranian military history, assets, and capabilities. They are not exhaustive and in some cases been generalized in order to keep the size of the part down. The information presented are from open sources found on the internet and other reference books.

New reports recently indicated that the military has recently wargamed various scenarios involving conducting a preemptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities to stop or delay their efforts to create a nuclear weapon. Those reports indicated that their war games resulted in an expanded conflict with Iran that could not be contained.

Since Iran could be the next target in the WOT, I wanted to give you an idea how IMHO Iran would/could respond and some of the wild card / variables that would have to be dealt with. The following scenario, with some modifications, could be seen if Israel conducts the preemptive strike OR if Iran conducts its OWN preemptive attack.

Historical Background

The historical background provides insight into potential actions by Iran and why. There are three key points that I think need to be examined.
1. Following the theocratic revolution of 1979, Iran wanted to be the defacto primary Islamic influence on not only the Persian Gulf but the larger world. The ability to make nuclear weapons would be the culmination of that strategic goal.
2. Religious ties to southern Iraq.
3. The Iran - Iraq war.

Iran’s efforts to influence world geopolitics started with the capture of our Embassy staff. It has since morphed into the active and covert support of terrorism throughout the world spreading the Iranian theocratic form of Shiite Islam. Its covert support of terrorism protected it from direct assault in the pre-9/11 world. Russia saw a natural ally against American influence in the middle east region and developed ties with Iran. But beyond opposing the ‘Great Satan’ - America, the theocracy of Iran wants to destroy the nation of Israel and has vowed to do so at what ever cost. It is to this end that the development of nuclear weapons and long range ballistic missiles to carry have has become a priority. In the post 9/11 world, Iran has been squarely placed on notice that its support of world-wide terror has made it a target for American action. The world has generally said that Iran needs to stop the research and development immediately. This has increased the urgency of the Iranian effort to create the bomb.

The American liberation of Iraq has created an opportunity for Iran to try to thwart US plan for a democratic Iraq and in its place, to create a theocracy. A true democratic Iraq would threaten Iran who is already facing a growing pro-democracy movement that could topple the religious rulers. Iran has a ready made support base - the Shiite majority in southern Iraq. The most holy sites for Shiites are also in southern Iraq. Agents from Iraq have been identified and captured in fighting in Iraq and are believed to be scattered throughout the country’s south. Many believe Al-Sadr directives are coming from Iran. This permits agents and potential special forces to blend in with the local population and have a degree of support. These agent would provide exceptional and timely intelligence of current troop locations, command posts, and supply depots.

However, in the event of a preemptive strike, the potentially biggest concern would be the Iranian military. How the Iranian military would be used requires a review of its battles with Iraq, its previous encounters with the US military and watching first hand military operations in Iraq. In reviewing its war with Iraq during the 1980’s two key items become apparent:

1. It recognized Iraq’s limited seaport access.
2. It recognized the vulnerability of oil shipping in the Persian Gulf and the Straits of Hormuz

I expect that these two points will strongly influence Iranian military operations, tactical and strategic goals.

Iranian Military Capabilities
Although Iran has spent millions to upgrade its military forces, it is still not much better than when it fought with Iraq 20 years ago. Regular ground forces consist of approximately 4 armored, 6 mechanized and 2 special forces divisions and 14 independent brigade/groups. Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) consists of about 4 Armored, 16 mechanized divisions and 10-11 independent brigade/groups. IRGC divisions are smaller than the Regular divisions, sometimes equivalent to the strength of one brigade. IRGC units are the ‘crack’ units, with the best trained, equipped and religiously motivated soldiers. These units became well known towards the end of the Iran-Iraq war for their human wave attacks.

There are approximately 1700 tanks of which only about 400 are a ‘high quality’ T-72 series. The rest are a mixture of T-62, T-55 series, Chieftain and M-47/48/60 series. APC are a mixture of M-113, BTR50/60, MT-LB, BMP-1 and -2 for at total of about 1500. The artillery consists of about 3000 pieces including MRLs of a wide variety of self propelled and towed guns and howitzers. The army is also equipped with a mixture of soviet era anti aircraft artillery and surface to air missiles.

Iranian airpower is relatively limited and on the old side. Between 175 to 200 combat aircraft are believed to be available. Included are a limited number of F-14A and Mig-29 (94 total, 50 in service) and F-4, Mirage F1 and Su-24 and -25.

The Iranian navy is second only to the US navy as the dominant force in the Gulf. Iran has spent more money in its navy, second only to the strategic missile and nuclear developments. Its focus has been small, fast maneuverable vessels with anti-ship missile capabilities. Among recent acquisitions are Chinese “Hudong” fast patrol boats (Osa II design) and 25 light attack vessels from N. Korea. The missile boats are carrying newer Chinese C-802 anti ship missiles. The C-802 is a turbo jet powered missile and will eventually replace the older Silkworm missiles. Also included are torpedo boats, semi-submersibles and three Kilo class submarines. The Kilo class subs are armed with wake-seeking torpedoes. Iran has also developed a considerable capability in mine warfare particularly with the acquisition from China of the rocket delivered EM-52 rising mine that can be deployed in waters too deep for other types of mines.

Iranian core strategic assets consist of SCUD-C and Chinese CSS-8 ballistic missiles. With the assistance of N. Korea, Iran has accelerated its internal ballistic missile program with the development of the Shehab-2 (Scud-D variant) and Shehab-3 missiles. While the other missiles give the Iranians the capability to strike any country in the Gulf, the development of the Shehab-3 missile is a significant development for the Iranians. This is the first asset that the Iranians have that can strike any where in Israel and they allege that it can even strike England.

Warheads for these missiles consist of conventional high explosives as well as chemical (nerve and blister) and potentially biological. However, the Shehab-3 is probably designed to be nuclear - tipped. Iran reports that the Shehab-3 is operational and if so, is probably equipped with either a HE or potentially chemical/biological warhead pending development of a nuclear warhead.

Part 1 Observations and Conclusions

Iran has a military that has not been degraded after 12 years of airstrikes and Desert Storm. However, it is still a force that cannot be dismissed too easily as it has the capabilities to inflict severe damage and as will become apparent in follow-on parts, can really mess things up for the US in Iraq for a while. However, in the long term, absent nuclear capability, the country would not be able to sustain a long-term campaign against the US.

Internal challenges to the ruling religious leaders consist of the growing democracy movement. The theocracy must maintain enough loyal forces to contain any protests while supporting any combat actions against the US.

In the next part of this series, I will evaluate the potential theater of conflict, potential Iranian military and political goals of the attack. And in the final part I hope to outline the development of the potential conflict in a relatively chronological order to whatever the end may be.

28 posted on 10/10/2004 12:07:21 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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This is the second of a series on Iran posted to the Daily Threat Matrix Thread.

The Persian Gambit - Part 2

In this part I want to evaluate the potential military and political goals and the theater of operations of any Iranian military response to an attack on its nuclear weapons development infrastructure. This will provide a clue as to any perceived weakness that the US and its allies or Iraq may have that could be exploited to their advantage. Iran knows that any military response against the US or its allies could have potentially devastating effects upon its own regime. However, there is also an islamic fervor of invincibility as the true Islamic state with allah’s favor resting upon them.

Asymmetrical Warfare

However, before I go further, I’d like to cover an issue that has come out very recently concerning Iranian military doctrine - asymmetrical warfare. The completion of their recent wargames was suppose to be a demonstrations of these capabilities. So what is asymmetrical warfare? Asymmetrical warfare is in the simplest of terms “warfare that applies comparative advantages against an enemy’s weaknesses”. This is not a new or particular revolutionary concept. The U.S. military attempts to engage in asymmetrical warfare whenever we meet an enemy on the modern battlefield. The implicit premise is that asymmetric warfare deals with unknowns, with surprise in terms of ends, ways, and means. The more dissimilar the opponent, the more difficult it is to anticipate his actions. Any competent enemy will do the unexpected, if he believes it will work. This may provide a tactical or strategic advantage until it is countered. Therefore, Iran’s announcement that it has a doctrine of asymmetric warfare indicates that it is trying to develop a degree of sophistication in its military that it can counter anything that the US / allies or Israel may do to it. Part of the recent Iranian news release pointed to the military maneuvers and the integration of close air support, airlifting of heavy armor, use of new tanks, and missile capabilities. So much of this part’s discussion naturally looks at Iranian advantages in the theater and how they may exploit them.

Political Goals

The political goals of an attack by Iran will likely focus on the following:

1. Rally support from the rest of the arab world against the US and Israel. This would be particularly true if a first strike is conducted against Iran by either Israel or the US. It would be much harder to obtain world support if Iran launches its own preemptive attack.
2. Embarrass the US and its allies militarily under conditions that cause them high casualties and / or tactical stalemate.
3. Deter further escalation of combat against Iran through the deployment of its forces and the preparation of defensive positions against a ground assault.

Attacking Israel is one of the tried and true means of gathering support of the arab world as well as to some degree some European nations. Just as Saddam was quick on the trigger to launch against Israel during Desert Storm, Iran will be quick to do the same. Propaganda broadcast by arab networks like Al-Jazera will further their cause to sway world opinion. There would be a lot of calling to jihad to fight the Christian crusaders. Any success against the US or Israel would naturally enhance their prestige and position of leadership for the arab cause and their bargaining position.

If Iran is able to successfully accomplish its military goals and place allied forces at a disadvantage, though probably temporally, would work to sway opinions in the US and allied nations. Already Iran is well aware of the divisive nature of the current operations in Iraq due to the current election campaigns. If they could inflict a single ‘big time’ defeat, such as damaging or sinking an aircraft carrier, they could use that in an attempt to turn public opinion. If their special operations forces are successful in triggering wide spread disruptions of allied operations away from any point of attack, it would further show their ‘superiority’ against the Great Satan. The ultimate goal would be to leverage their successes so that they could negotiate from a position of power.

Once their initial objects were achieved, the Iranian military would prepare for any potential counter attack that may be mounted. They realize that although the US has substantial forces in Iraq, they would have difficulty organizing a major counter attack and would need to be reinforced from the US, a process that could take weeks or months to get ground forces to the theater. By this phase of their political plans self survival of the theocracy would be foremost, especially if their initial operations are less than successful.

Military Objectives - Ground

As presented in Part 1, Iran has adequate forces to conduct ground operations against the US and its allies. However, because of the risk involved, Iran will carefully apply their forces where they could best obtain their objectives. Should they choose to attack into Iraq, they have two general options. The first consists of an attack into northern Iraq where there are limited resources and a hostile Kurdish population. The second, more likely option is to attack into southern Iraq where they may find sympathic Shiites, the bulk of Iraq’s petrochemical facilities and the supply lines supporting the US and its allies.

Their main thrust would be relatively small section of Iraq between Basrah and the Persian Gulf and southward to control crossing points between Iraq and Kuwait. This strike would cut off the supply lines for the US and allied forces, creating a blockade. Iran is familiar with this territory as it was fought over during the 1980’s war with Iraq. This was very effective until the US became involved in securing the Gulf and protecting shipping, allowing Iraq once again to receive supplies and material. It would be to Iran’s advantage to maintain the blockade as long as possible since it would significantly impact the US and allied forces in a similar manner.

I would also expect a supporting attack further north towards Amarah would serve to threaten the flank of any allied counter attack by units coming south out of Baghdad.

Military Objectives - Special Operations

There are significant numbers of Iranian special operations forces operating in Iraq right now. Their objective would be to stir up trouble and tie down US and coalition forces through multiple guerrilla attacks upon strategic targets such as logistic and command centers. Wide spread attacks would force the allies to either allow the terrorists to take over for a short time while they organize a counter attack or try to suppress the uprising and wait on the counter attack. Either way, the special operations forces have achieved their objective. If the allies organize right away for an attack, rear area operations will become difficult again as logistic and any supply lines would be hit. Freezing the allied attack would give ground forces time to consolidate their positions so that any counter attack would require a substantial troop build-up to be successful while maintaining the peace throughout the rest of Iraq.

Military Objectives - Sea

The main objective of Iranian naval forces would be to deny the use of the Persian gulf to the US fleet or to make it very costly. This would include attacks against any carrier battle group stationed there as well as trying to close the straits of Hormuz to all shipping. The goal is to develop a blockade of Iraq by sea long enough for ground forces to achieve their objectives. It would be very dangerous for the US to underestimate the Iranian capabilities. Our capital ships are vulnerable to shore-launched missiles as was apparent during Desert Storm when one of our amphibious assault ships was struck shortly after the ground assault began. Iran’s smaller, fast attack missile boats could launch hit and run attacks and with the newer chinese missiles could inflict some serious damage. Iranian submarines could do one of two things. First would be to try to inflict a first strike against the carrier group. Success is problematical since if a first strike against Iran is carried out by the Israelis or US, they would be alert too the threat. A more likely scenario would be to deploy the subs to attack undefended oil tankers and supply ships along shipping lanes coming into the Persian Gulf. This would send oil prices sky rocketing and inflict terror in the region. Unless US naval assets keep close tabs on their movements, US naval assets would initially be hard pressed to find them while at the same time dealing with the hit and run tactics and shore missile attacks. Finally, the occupation of US naval forces will divert support from ground troops to the fleet for a period of time, helping Iranian ground forces achieve their objectives.

Military Objectives - Air

Although their weakest asset, the recent wargames have indicated that they have developed a degree of close air support capability that could be used to support the ground assault. The best of the airforce would likely be held close to Tehran to protect the government, however, they would have a period of time to act while US naval air assets are dealing with the Iranian navy hit and run attacks and USAF assets are providing ground support to suppress guerilla attacks. Some assets could also be diverted to the east for counter shipping operations.

Military Objectives - Strategic Assets

Coalition difficulties in finding Scud launchers during Desert Shield / Storm will be exploited by Iran for counter attacks in the theater. Baghdad “Green Zone” housing the coalition and Iraqi headquarters would be one of their first targets. Oil facilities in the north would also be vulnerable as they may want to keep the facilities in the south somewhat intact for their own potential use. The longer range Shehab-3 missiles will likely be launched mostly at Israel to garner support of the arab countries with some potentially being launched towards England, Italy, or other european country to develop dissention in Europe against the US/Israel in support of stopping any prolonged operation against Iran for fear that they may be struck again. Other conventional targets would be the oil facilities of any Gulf countries supporting the coalition, again to raise terror, gain world support for a negotiated settlement of the conflict or black mail them into denying more support to the US for any counter attack.

Absolute worse case scenario would be that they use chemical / biological warheads. This is assuming that they don’t have the nuclear warheads yet. This could be the wild card if Iranian objectives are not being adequately met. The most likely target would be Israel because if they respond with a nuclear strike there would be a great deal of pressure on Israel to justify the strike. Any ‘justification’ would be generally rejected by many arab nations as a “Zionist lie” and would be viewed with skepticism by many in Europe.

A chemical/biological strike against US / coalition forces could work to increase anti-war opinions among the allies due to casualties or could back lash into a severe and potential nuclear strike by the US. However, because of close Russian ties, a nuclear counter strike by the US would be very dangerous and could pull Russia in on the Iranian side. That of course could fuel anti-war sentiment in the US and allied countries and gain more support from arab countries. However, this would also result in a major escalation of hostilities and the direct attack of Iran by US and coalition forces.

Part 2 - Conclusions and Observations

As you can see from Part 2, the Iranians have the capability to conduct asymmetrical warfare against the US and allied countries by focusing their strengths against our weaknesses in the region and they have a chance to succeed in the goals I’ve listed. Iran would hope for quick success and the gaining of world opinion for a negotiated cessation of hostilities before the US and allies can effectively counter attack. Iran knows that once US military forces are marshalled, its days are numbered and could increase the chance that Iran could use more desperate measures. Israel will be attacked no matter what with a high possibility that chemical and biological weapons could be used. The US response would need to be carefully balanced and measured to prevent Russian intervention of behalf of Iran and to bring the conflict to a swift conclusion.

In Part 3, I will look at a couple of more detailed scenarios that I think could occur and their potential outcomes.

29 posted on 10/10/2004 12:11:43 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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U.S. OFFICIAL SIGNALS CONCERN OVER RUSSIAN NUCLEAR AND FOREIGN POLICIES...

Visiting U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Arms Control Stephen Rademaker told a Moscow news conference on 6 October that the United States and Europe are concerned by some aspects of Russian nuclear policy with respect to outstanding commitments, local and international media reported the next day. Rademaker said the number of Russian tactical nuclear missiles deployed in European Russia and their targeting worries the European public. Washington is also concerned that Russian companies might have aided a purported Iranian attempt to acquire strategic, long-range missiles, Rademaker added. He then reportedly said the West is troubled over Moscow's failure to abide by a 1999 commitment laid out in the so-called Istanbul Agreement whereby Russia was to have withdrawn fully its troops from Moldova and negotiated a similar pullout from Georgia. "I must say, it's inexplicable to me why we don't see more progress," Interfax quoted Rademaker as saying. VY

...DRAWING QUICK RETORTS FROM RUSSIAN COUNTERPARTS

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Yakovenko shrugged off the U.S. criticism over nuclear issues and said on 7 October that as far as Europe is concerned, "the word 'commitment' in this context [of nuclear missiles] is incorrect," Interfax reported 7 October. In a separate statement the same day, Deputy Foreign Minister Aleksandr Alekseev said Russia "will continue to cooperate with Iran on the peaceful use of nuclear energy," Interfax and other media reported. Washington has opposed the roughly $800 million in Russian participation in the continuing construction of a nuclear power plant at Bushehr in southern Iran. "It doesn't matter if there is pressure or not, but what does matter is that we will comply with all legal commitments in cooperation with Iran," Alekseev said. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is scheduled to visit Tehran on 10-11 October and is expected to discuss bilateral nuclear cooperation, "Izvestiya" reported on 7 October. VY
30 posted on 10/10/2004 12:51:21 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Iranian Radio Comments on Rumsfeld's Visit to Iraq

October 10, 2004
BBC Monitoring
BBC Monitoring Middle East


[Newsreader] US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld paid a surprise visit to Iraq and arrived in that country this morning [10 October] and met with American forces. This is Rumsfeld's first visit to Iraq after a transitional government took office in that country. Mr Kheradmand, a specialist in the News Research and Analysis Group, analyses the objectives of Rumsfeld's visit to Iraq:

[Kheradmand] Rumsfeld's surprise visit to Iraq can have several objectives. First, with this visit Rumsfeld wants to assure the 150 thousand American troops in Iraq, who cannot wait to leave that country, that many of them can return [home] after holding a peaceful election in Iraq in Bahman [January-February]. In fact, saying this, Rumsfeld expects that the American troops would make more sacrifices for holding elections in Iraq so that they could return to their homes as soon as possible. Second, there are increasing criticisms surfacing in America in these days about the American government's inability to train American forces for fulfilling security responsibilities in Iraq. The [discussions about] the high casualty toll of American forces in Iraq has been one of the major weaknesses in Bush's election campaign and Kerry has taken utmost advantage of this. Therefore, one of the objectives of Rumsfeld's visit to Iraq is to hasten the training of Iraqi forces in order to reduce the Iraqi resistance's pressure on the occupiers, as this pressure will be directed towards the Iraqi forces. It is also important to note that the timing of Rumsfeld's visit to Iraq, one day after the elections in Afghanistan, carries the message that in spite of daily clashes, holding a peaceful election in Iraq is not impossible. But one should note that the insecurity of Iraq in the past 18 months was caused by the presence of occupying forces in Iraq, their interference in the country's affairs and their policy of suppressing the people of Iraq. Therefore, one could say that the situation of Iraq is absolutely different from that of Iraq, and that if Americans are truly after restoring peace in Iraq they should revise their policies and allow the upcoming elections in Iraq to be held in a liberal atmosphere, because only this could restore peace and pave the way for the decent return of American forces from Iraq.

Source: Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Tehran, in Persian 1030 gmt 10 Oct 04

31 posted on 10/10/2004 12:54:21 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Khamenei Hails Iranian Military Exercises as Success

October 10, 2004
Agence France Presse
AFP


TEHRAN -- Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has said the military exercises held last month by the Revolutionary Guards Corps were a success, state television reported Sunday.

"The success of Ashura-5 manoeuvres obliges me to thank you and other senior commanders," the all-powerful leader was quoted as writing to Guards commander Rahim Safavi.

"Abilities in planning, command and logistics could be perfectly seen in this big collective operation," Khamenei wrote of the exercises, held in the northwest of the country.

The week-long exercises kicked off on September 12, and were reportedly aimed at testing out new equipment and maintaining the Revolutionary Guards' "spirit of Jihad (holy war) and defence" and its status of being the "biggest deterrent power in the region".

The Revolutionary Guards, one of Iran's most powerful institutions, were set up in the wake of the 1979 Islamic revolution and have a separate command structure to the regular armed forces.

32 posted on 10/10/2004 1:27:30 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Israel Trades One Nightmare for Another

By STEVEN ERLANGER

Published: October 10, 2004

JERUSALEM — One of the major winners of America's war on terrorism has been nuclear-bound, terrorism-supporting Iran, and it is giving the Israelis nightmares.

Israelis have been targets of terrorists since long before American cities were struck three years ago - a fact driven home last week by bombings that killed dozens of vacationing Israelis at three resorts in Egypt. But the nightmares about Iran are of another dimension.

Iran - large, ambitious and run by radical clerics committed to the destruction of the Jewish state - is seen by Israelis as the most obvious and urgent threat today to Israel's very existence.

The overthrow of the Taliban in Afghanistan eliminated one of Iran's main fundamentalist rivals to its east, while the overthrow of Saddam Hussein to its west eliminated Iran's main military rival in the Persian Gulf. Not only is Mr. Hussein gone, but much of Iraq is in disorder, presenting opportunities for Iran to meddle in Iraq's heavily Shiite south, even to create a kind of Iranistan there.

So the Israelis who plan for this country's security confront a paradox: While they are relieved that the American invasion of Iraq removed a sworn enemy, they are increasingly nervous about the opportunities that the same invasion has opened for another. And they see the Middle East moving from conventional military rivalries to far more dangerous nuclear rivalries.

That is why Israeli officials have been threatening for months to take "the necessary steps,'' as Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz puts it, to prevent Iran, his birthplace, from developing nuclear weapons.

Behind that threat is a hope that the rest of the world can persuade Iran, with threats and diplomacy, to drop the parts of its nuclear program that could be used for armaments. But Israeli officials say they have not had great success so far in encouraging a preoccupied Washington, a conflicted Russia and a divided Europe to do much about Iran except talk anxiously about it.

Iran's program - which its leaders maintain is for peaceful purposes - is far more sophisticated and widespread than the single Iraqi nuclear reactor Israel bombed in 1981, and Israeli officials make clear that they do not want to act alone against Iran.

Iran, however, has an increasing number of cards to play in the region. According to the Israeli military, it has strong influence over the radical Palestinian group Hamas and over the Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah, which has been financing and organizing most of the attacks against Israelis from the Palestinian West Bank. Iran is gaining influence with the Shia factions jockeying for power in southern Iraq. Officials in Washington have said Iran is helping to foment anti-American resistance there. Most important, perhaps, Iran has increasingly sophisticated Shahab missiles that could hit the outskirts of Tel Aviv.

Iran's leaders do not acknowledge ambitions for nuclear arms, but they are building reactors and there is logic for them wanting a bomb: their neighbors India and Pakistan have nuclear arms, Israel is presumed to have them, and American troops are on their borders.

Yuval Steinitz, chairman of the Israeli Parliament's foreign and defense committee, argues that Iran is a clear danger for the entire West, since it is working on an intercontinental missile that could threaten Europe and NATO. "The Iran nuclear program is so ambitious that after producing a first bomb, they could produce 20 bombs a year," he said. "It's up to the Americans and Europeans to solve Iran," he added, "not little Israel."

Mr. Steinitz's concerns are expressed as well by senior Israeli political, military and intelligence officials who spoke on the condition that they not be quoted by name. Israel has been pushing Washington to deal with Iran's nuclear program since the mid-1990's.

"If Iran develops nuclear weapons, there will be a new Middle East,'' said Gerald M. Steinberg of Bar-Ilan University. "It would lead to a lot more brinkmanship and tension, with higher stakes for Israel's survival and pressure on other countries, like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Syria, to develop nuclear weapons of their own.''

Amatzia Baram, a scholar of Iraq, thinks Israel and the region are safer for now with Mr. Hussein gone. But the euphoria Israelis felt following his quick defeat has dissipated, Mr. Baram says, and has been replaced by anxiety over the possibility of American failure in Iraq.

"So far, with the American Army in Iraq, things are O.K., if not very stable, and in the best case, Iraq will settle down, a net gain for Israel,'' said Mr. Baram, a professor of Middle Eastern history at Haifa University. "But worst case, the Americans decide to go," he said, and that would mean: "There's no central control, growing anarchy, western Iraq becomes a no man's land, like a little Afghanistan. Iran will be a power broker in southern Iraq, and then Jordan is under threat and there's more terrorism in the world."

"The jury's still out" on what will happen, he said, "and the stakes are very high.''

Iran's nuclear ambitions began under Shah Muhammad Reza Pahlavi in the 1970's, a time when the United States, France and Germany competed to build reactors there and Iran and Israel were proto-allies against a hostile Arab world. But the shah's overthrow in an Islamic revolution in 1979 changed the Middle East.

Israel later watched with some relief as Mr. Hussein's Iraq fought a war with Iran at such a bloody cost that both countries were weakened for years. But both regimes survived, with their animosity intact.

In the short run, Israel has gained enormously from the ouster of Mr. Hussein, said Michael B. Oren, a historian and senior fellow at Jerusalem's Shalem Center.

Not only did Mr. Hussein sent $25,000 checks to the families of suicide bombers and promise to wipe Israel off the map, but his huge if indifferent army was the focus of the old Israeli specter of a massed invasion by Syrian, Jordanian and Iraqi armies moving together against Israel's narrow waist. "That was our nightmare, and it's over, buried,'' Mr. Oren said.

But in the long run, the situation in Iraq "is very uncertain, hazardous and possibly catastrophic,'' he said. Even an American success in democratizing Iraq "will almost definitely entail majority Shia rule, linked to a rapidly nuclearizing Iran, causing upheaval and increased expectations among Shias throughout the Gulf.'' He imagines a Shiite belt from the Persian Gulf through southern Lebanon, organized against America and Israel. "That's scary, because the raison d'être of the Iranian regime is to export holy war,'' he said. Also, Mr. Oren said, "there's a genuine fear here that if America withdraws precipitously from Iraq, the initial message, that the West will stand up to terror, is not only lost, but supplanted by: 'You shoot at Americans and Westerners long enough and they'll retreat, so don't stop shooting.' ''

For Dan Schueftan, a senior fellow at the National Security Studies Center at Haifa University and at the Shalem Center, the situation is deeply worrisome, but not yet a crisis. Mr. Hussein's fall, he said, has been a clear benefit to Israel, which would have had Iran as an enemy in any case. The improbability of a big land war means that Israel's army can start renovating itself in earnest - mothballing armor, cutting its size and acquiring high technology like precision weapons, drones and anti-missile defenses that will help deter Iran.

Iran presents a global problem "already recognized by the United States and Europe, which is within missile range,'' Mr. Schueftan said. "So we feel less lonely vis-à-vis Iran than we did with Iraq in the 80's.''

But, he said, he worries about what Iran could do with nuclear weapons, and their impact on the region.

A nuclear Iran would embolden Syria and Hezbollah to feel protected by an Iranian nuclear umbrella, he suggested. Egypt and other Arab countries would feel pressure to develop nuclear weapons, and other radical regimes could come into being. Egypt is under pressure from Islamic radicals. A change there, he said, "would change the region completely.''

Mr. Baram also makes the point that Iran's regime is less secure internally and more unpredictable than the Soviet regime that the United States faced in the cold war. "In Iran, I can imagine some commander, acting out of ideology, like some Dr. Strangelove, shooting off a nuclear bomb against Israel,'' he said.

There would be deterrence of a kind between Iran and Israel, he conceded, based on the old theory of mutually assured destruction, or MAD. "But then everything hangs on MAD, and MAD in an area that is mad enough is a big problem,'' he said. "And an existential one.''

33 posted on 10/10/2004 1:31:37 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Iraqi Women: "Thank You USA" + Swift Vets - 7:00 PM Eastern (4:00 PM Pacific) TODAY (Sunday)

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34 posted on 10/10/2004 5:17:52 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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