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'The Beast' movie: Jesus didn't exist; Former Christian director's secretive film
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, October 12, 2004 | Ron Strom

Posted on 10/12/2004 2:54:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

A movie whose purpose is to prove that Jesus Christ never existed and that demonizes Christian fundamentalists is scheduled to open on June 6, 2006 – that is, 06-06-06, the "666" biblical mark of the Beast.

Directed by Brian Flemming, who is described on the film's website as a "former fundamentalist Christian," "The Beast" promises to spread the theory he claims is "gaining credibility among scholars" – that Jesus was made up out of thin air.

"The authors of the Gospels, writing 40 to 90 years after the supposed life of Christ, never intended for their works to be read as biographies. There are no credible non-Christian references to Christ during the period in which he is said to have lived," states the film's site.

Currently in pre-production, the film's cast and crew are "legally sworn to secrecy," the promotional site says.

Here's how the film's promoters describe its plot:

When her father, a biblical scholar, mysteriously disappears, a Christian high-school student named Danielle investigates. She discovers that he had stumbled across a cover-up of Christianity's best-kept secret: that Jesus Christ never existed.

Now that she possesses proof of this dangerous fact, Danielle must confront two strong forces: a band of fundamentalist Christians who will stop at nothing to suppress the truth, and her own desire for Jesus Christ to be real.

Diving into factual territory well-explored by scholars but largely hidden from the view of the public, "The Beast" is an epic story of innocence lost, faith in crisis and the astonishing power of the truth to survive.

On the trailer, which is viewable on the film's site, ominous music plays while these words flash across the screen: "Centuries ago, a legend was invented… forgery … fraud … coercion … wealth … greed … torture … murder … war … gave it the power to dominate the world." The words are displayed on a background of a painting of Christ's face.

The producers offer a newsletter for those interested in following the making of the movie.

Fleming is touted on the film's website as "internationally acclaimed."

States the site: "Flemming's work has been called 'a parallel universe' by the BBC, 'jaggedly imaginative' by the New York Times, and 'immensely satisfying' by USA Today. The Fox News Channel dubbed him 'a young Oliver Stone.' Flemming won the New York Times Claiborne Pell Award for Original Vision for his groundbreaking feature film 'Nothing So Strange,' which was released theatrically in 2003 and is currently distributed on DVD in more than 200 countries."

Supporters of the film have participated in a discussion forum on the site.

Says one excited poster: "I must say, I highly commend this director for his immense courage on putting something like this out!! The fact that he has the courage to put out a movie about the possibility of Christ never existing after all the controversy surrounding a movie about the LIFE of Christ (well death really) is just amazing!!

"Mad Kudos (and thanks) to EVERYONE involved in the making of this movie and good luck in handling all the 'adverse' reactions!!"

Another participant enthused, "I'm so excited! I can't wait until it's released! This is DEFINITELY the age of Aquarius!!"

Greg Koukl is head of Stand to Reason, a Christian apologetics organization. He says this kind of story line is not unusual among books and movies.

"It always turns out that fundamentalist Christians are the bad guys," he told WorldNetDaily.

"The problem with this is the evidence they draw from is always out on the fringes of academic scholarship" – evidence, he says, that is not even used by the leaders of the leftist Jesus Seminar.

Koukl noted historians that have no affinity for fundamentalist Christianity certainly write about Jesus and his impact on history.

"Nobody is trying to explain the indelible mark of Jesus of Nazareth on history by saying he never existed," he said. "That's way beyond the pale. No credible historian would make that claim. … It's a bizarre statement from an academic perspective."

Koukl wonders what motive anyone would have to invent Jesus and then "fool everybody."

He dismisses "The Beast" promoters' argument that because no non-Christian accounts of Jesus exist from the time of his life, he must be a fictional character.

"It may be the case that only Caesar wrote about the Gaelic wars," he explained, "but just because there are no other writing about the Gaelic wars doesn't mean we can't trust Caesar," mentioning the four Gospels are themselves four separate accounts of Christ's life.

He mentioned there are a "number of historical references to Christ outside Christianity, which buttress the fact he did exist."

Ted Baehr, founder and publisher of MovieGuide and chairman of the Christian Film & Television Commission, predicts "The Beast" will bomb with American moviegoers.

"Generally, these movies do very poorly at the box office," he told WND. "'Saved!' which had a lot of publicity, did about $6 million at the box office. … That's pitiful."

Baehr said bringing the film's contentions into the light of day in the media works well to expose the agenda of its promoters.

"The way you pull the teeth of a false argument is bring up the argument first and show that it's frivolous and fallacious," he said. "Of course it's frivolous. The original apostles wouldn't have gone to their death for Jesus if they didn't believe he was real."

Baehr said, "There is a small group of teenagers who will see ['The Beast'] who will be convinced it is the truth. … It will have an impact on a susceptible few."

One of the film's producers, Amanda Jackson, was contacted for this story but did not respond by press time.




TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fundies; getagrip; movies; stupidfundies; thebeast
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To: JohnHuang2

Marketing ploy.


261 posted on 10/12/2004 10:59:43 AM PDT by paulklenk (Blue Fairy, please make Dan Rather a real boy!)
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To: dljordan
I thought that there was mention of Jesus in Roman records of the time.

Justin Martyr wrote that anyone who wanted to verify the facts of Christ's trial and crucifixion could check out Pilate's report to Caesar. Pilate most assuredly wrote a report to Caesar.

262 posted on 10/12/2004 11:19:24 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dataman

See also #254 above.


263 posted on 10/12/2004 11:26:09 AM PDT by dukeman
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To: dukeman

Amen, bro. There is enough light for those that wish to see and enough obscurity for those who refuse to see (Blaise Pascal).


264 posted on 10/12/2004 11:29:25 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Publius6961
My knowledge is faith, I don't need corroboration, that's why it's called faith.

When facts are lacking you have to rely on faith!

265 posted on 10/12/2004 11:53:38 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Dataman
You bet! God didn't create us as robots.

I'm reading a very interesting book right now called I Don't Have Enough Faith to be An Atheist, by Norman L. Geisler and Frank Turek (Crossway Books, 2004). It systematically examines logic, science, and history to demonstrate that it takes a stronger act of faith- in the face of all the evidence- to not believe in God than it does to believe that God exists. Many willfuly choose not to believe. I recommend the book.

266 posted on 10/12/2004 12:09:23 PM PDT by dukeman
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To: JohnHuang2
Brian Flemming

I'd hate to be you on judgement day.

267 posted on 10/12/2004 12:24:14 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Molon Labe! FMCDH!)
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To: Aquinasfan

Wow...I didn't know Josephus had written about Christ... in many chat threads I've read from different sites, people were citing Josephus' "LACK" of written commentary on Christ as evidence that Jesus did not exist! I guess people had better get to know Josephus a little better. His acknowledgement of Jesus as the Christ to men may have stood him in with good graces with the Father as well!


268 posted on 10/12/2004 12:41:07 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: dukeman
Agreed.

I posted some of the names of the historians you cited.

269 posted on 10/12/2004 1:11:16 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: JohnHuang2

The movie sounds pretty lame low budget cheesy plot. The guy would've been better off making an educational michael moore documentary style film that goes through the case against jesus point by point. I can imagine a very poor defense.


270 posted on 10/12/2004 1:14:40 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: Aquinasfan

Me, "God won't help deciples of the beast."


Aquinafan, "He will if they repent and turn to Him"


The sad truth is many of these types DO NOT want to repent or turn to God. Time reveals all.


271 posted on 10/12/2004 2:15:09 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: LadyDoc
The real story that divides people is if Jesus was God sent to teach us how to live.

and that is a matter of the heart and faith.

i will take my chances, eh?

with the One who made birds that sing when i am sad and rainbows that shine through torrents and little tiny bright purple seashells that wait for me to discover them on the beach and dogs that put their dark shiny noses on your lap and roll gentle brown eyes up toward your face when nobody on the earth seems to care if you live or die.

yes, i will take my chances:>

272 posted on 10/12/2004 3:11:27 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: Constantine XIII
They never have a good reason for explaining why the church fathers would allow themselves to be burnt at the stake and fed to lions for a "lie".

"Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man. We shall this day light such a candle, by God's grace, in England, as I trust shall never be put out."

273 posted on 10/12/2004 3:17:10 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: Just mythoughts
You are correct. Time is telescoping at the moment. Our very thoughts, words and actions have greater consequences now because the power to do good as well as the power to bad has increased exponentially.

People are waking up to the interconnectedness of the universe and creation. We are both the puppets and puppeteers of the universe.
274 posted on 10/12/2004 3:59:34 PM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: JohnHuang2

For any thinking, reading person, one question about Christianity has been settled beyond any reasonable doubt. Jesus of Nazareth was an actual, living, breathing historical person.


275 posted on 10/12/2004 4:49:01 PM PDT by beckett
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To: searchandrecovery

Soros


276 posted on 10/12/2004 4:50:05 PM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: wildwood

faith is a gift

god stirs our hearts with beauty to encourage us to see he who is beautiful...


277 posted on 10/12/2004 5:06:08 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: TonyRo76

He's not the antichrist; more like the "anti-Mel."


278 posted on 10/12/2004 5:19:43 PM PDT by I-ambush
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To: JohnHuang2

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/polls/index.asp?VIEW_RESULTS=Y
I participated in the poll.


280 posted on 10/12/2004 7:04:00 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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