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'The Beast' movie: Jesus didn't exist; Former Christian director's secretive film
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, October 12, 2004 | Ron Strom

Posted on 10/12/2004 2:54:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: fortheDeclaration
The one fact that the historians will not touch is the Resurrection which makes Christianity different then any other religion. We have a risen Saviour, all other religions follow dead teachers. (1Cor.15)

BTTT

2nd Timothy 2:8

Maranatha!

(Romans 10:17).......not by BBC/TV......movies)

21 posted on 10/12/2004 3:17:38 AM PDT by maestro
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To: Uncle Vlad

Josephus, a Jewish historian and non Christian wrote about Jesus.


22 posted on 10/12/2004 3:17:43 AM PDT by shineon
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To: CourtneyLeigh

Yep, I can see how that peace and love thing would really upset people.


23 posted on 10/12/2004 3:18:43 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: JohnHuang2
G.A. Wells is the leading advocate of the Jesus didn't exist school. Wells is a retired German teacher and wannabe theologian. You can find an analysis of his theory at: http://www.errantskeptics.org/G_A_Wells.htm.
24 posted on 10/12/2004 3:19:20 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Uncle Vlad; hiredhand; Lexinom; Havoc; Indie; Northern Yankee
I'm gonna go see it! I want to know exactly what the enemy of Our Lord is training up innocent teens and young (non-believers) into excepting as okay!

I'd recommend to all, God fearing, Bible believers to see this film, so that they are prepared to give an answer at work, and other times. This is Satans tool, why not keep one up on the ol' serpant, and know some of it's tricks!?

25 posted on 10/12/2004 3:19:56 AM PDT by CourtneyLeigh (Why can't all of America be Commonwealth?)
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To: shineon
Oh, c'mon now, Josephus? You know perfectly well that he wrote nothing but fiction, like that story about Masada. Never happened. (sarcasm off)
26 posted on 10/12/2004 3:20:06 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Uncle Vlad
Well, see. You see the peace and love thing. Many who don't go to the Lord;E.G. Atheists, agnostics, and heretics aren't stupid, they are ignoring the light of the Lord, for it shines onto them, showing their sins. It judges them, and gives them a chance to be whole in Christ.

But many people, too many are enjoying "The pleasures of sin for a season" What they don't know, is their season will end before they get a chance to recant their lifestyles!

27 posted on 10/12/2004 3:23:36 AM PDT by CourtneyLeigh (Why can't all of America be Commonwealth?)
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To: CourtneyLeigh
"Secularism" is becoming the religion of the Left. It has a very simple dogma: America is always wrong, big government is the only solution, and the only other religion that secularism tolerates is Islam, because radical Islam hates America, too.
28 posted on 10/12/2004 3:23:49 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Uncle Vlad
Don't forget mysticism.

E.G. Eastern Religion (chinese, japanese, india, etc). These are highly accepted and practiced by millions of americans. Even christians.

Yoga, Chinese Good Luck, Eastern Meditation. You'll see it everywhere, it's even in the linen department at your local store. You'll not see any crosses or scriptures or things depicting Christianity, unless you walk into a church or Book Store.

29 posted on 10/12/2004 3:26:56 AM PDT by CourtneyLeigh (Why can't all of America be Commonwealth?)
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To: JohnHuang2
This film would have received high marks in the Stalinist Soviet Union and Red China during the late 40's and the 50's era. It's probably one of the 527 Marxist socialist atheistic Democrat Party fund-raising operatives that's making this possible. Poison the minds of the stupid government 'educated' useful idiots.

Tell a big lie long enough........

30 posted on 10/12/2004 3:27:21 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: JohnHuang2
There are no credible non-Christian references to Christ during the period in which he is said to have lived

hmmm.. then what about the Roman stories complaining about the man Jesus who was stirring up trouble in Judaea-Galilee and whose followers were doing the same
31 posted on 10/12/2004 3:27:52 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: JohnHuang2

Bump for later!


32 posted on 10/12/2004 3:28:48 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: Casloy
"... I hope Christians ignore it and don't give it publicity it doesn't deserve.

I'm predicting dozens of FR threads about the movie, some of them numbering 3000+ replies. Someone will post a picture thread of a little band of fellows FReeping the movie theatre.

Now taking bets.

33 posted on 10/12/2004 3:29:32 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: JohnHuang2

hmmmm... if anyone made even a non-fictional documentary on Mohammesd's life (padeophilia et al), he'd have his throat slit. We don't do things like that. Hmmmm.... are jihadis so bad after all?


34 posted on 10/12/2004 3:30:09 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Cvengr

This theory generally includes the supposition that Paul was the one who invented Jesus.


35 posted on 10/12/2004 3:30:21 AM PDT by klute
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To: Uncle Vlad

One might chose to discount Josephus.

But then, there is Tacitus, who says:

"But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the bounties that the prince could bestow, nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind."

Tacitus, ANNALS

He was a Roman historian who had no agenda except to document what had happened.

There are also a number of apocryphal gospels that provide much evidence.


36 posted on 10/12/2004 3:30:29 AM PDT by djf
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To: The KG9 Kid
LOL
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Here's a hundred

37 posted on 10/12/2004 3:33:12 AM PDT by CourtneyLeigh (Why can't all of America be Commonwealth?)
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To: shineon
Josephus, a Jewish historian and non Christian wrote about Jesus.

Bump.

39 posted on 10/12/2004 3:33:46 AM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: klute

The first stages of arrogance include behavior which denies what God provides. Later stages of arrogance actually attack what He has provided in an attempt to counterfeit and openly defeat God.

Neither effort in arrogance provides life.


40 posted on 10/12/2004 3:34:24 AM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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