Skip to comments.'The Beast' movie: Jesus didn't exist; Former Christian director's secretive film
Posted on 10/12/2004 2:54:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
A movie whose purpose is to prove that Jesus Christ never existed and that demonizes Christian fundamentalists is scheduled to open on June 6, 2006 that is, 06-06-06, the "666" biblical mark of the Beast.
Directed by Brian Flemming, who is described on the film's website as a "former fundamentalist Christian," "The Beast" promises to spread the theory he claims is "gaining credibility among scholars" that Jesus was made up out of thin air.
"The authors of the Gospels, writing 40 to 90 years after the supposed life of Christ, never intended for their works to be read as biographies. There are no credible non-Christian references to Christ during the period in which he is said to have lived," states the film's site.
Currently in pre-production, the film's cast and crew are "legally sworn to secrecy," the promotional site says.
Here's how the film's promoters describe its plot:
When her father, a biblical scholar, mysteriously disappears, a Christian high-school student named Danielle investigates. She discovers that he had stumbled across a cover-up of Christianity's best-kept secret: that Jesus Christ never existed.
Now that she possesses proof of this dangerous fact, Danielle must confront two strong forces: a band of fundamentalist Christians who will stop at nothing to suppress the truth, and her own desire for Jesus Christ to be real.
Diving into factual territory well-explored by scholars but largely hidden from the view of the public, "The Beast" is an epic story of innocence lost, faith in crisis and the astonishing power of the truth to survive.
On the trailer, which is viewable on the film's site, ominous music plays while these words flash across the screen: "Centuries ago, a legend was invented forgery fraud coercion wealth greed torture murder war gave it the power to dominate the world." The words are displayed on a background of a painting of Christ's face.
The producers offer a newsletter for those interested in following the making of the movie.
Fleming is touted on the film's website as "internationally acclaimed."
States the site: "Flemming's work has been called 'a parallel universe' by the BBC, 'jaggedly imaginative' by the New York Times, and 'immensely satisfying' by USA Today. The Fox News Channel dubbed him 'a young Oliver Stone.' Flemming won the New York Times Claiborne Pell Award for Original Vision for his groundbreaking feature film 'Nothing So Strange,' which was released theatrically in 2003 and is currently distributed on DVD in more than 200 countries."
Supporters of the film have participated in a discussion forum on the site.
Says one excited poster: "I must say, I highly commend this director for his immense courage on putting something like this out!! The fact that he has the courage to put out a movie about the possibility of Christ never existing after all the controversy surrounding a movie about the LIFE of Christ (well death really) is just amazing!!
"Mad Kudos (and thanks) to EVERYONE involved in the making of this movie and good luck in handling all the 'adverse' reactions!!"
Another participant enthused, "I'm so excited! I can't wait until it's released! This is DEFINITELY the age of Aquarius!!"
Greg Koukl is head of Stand to Reason, a Christian apologetics organization. He says this kind of story line is not unusual among books and movies.
"It always turns out that fundamentalist Christians are the bad guys," he told WorldNetDaily.
"The problem with this is the evidence they draw from is always out on the fringes of academic scholarship" evidence, he says, that is not even used by the leaders of the leftist Jesus Seminar.
Koukl noted historians that have no affinity for fundamentalist Christianity certainly write about Jesus and his impact on history.
"Nobody is trying to explain the indelible mark of Jesus of Nazareth on history by saying he never existed," he said. "That's way beyond the pale. No credible historian would make that claim. It's a bizarre statement from an academic perspective."
Koukl wonders what motive anyone would have to invent Jesus and then "fool everybody."
He dismisses "The Beast" promoters' argument that because no non-Christian accounts of Jesus exist from the time of his life, he must be a fictional character.
"It may be the case that only Caesar wrote about the Gaelic wars," he explained, "but just because there are no other writing about the Gaelic wars doesn't mean we can't trust Caesar," mentioning the four Gospels are themselves four separate accounts of Christ's life.
He mentioned there are a "number of historical references to Christ outside Christianity, which buttress the fact he did exist."
Ted Baehr, founder and publisher of MovieGuide and chairman of the Christian Film & Television Commission, predicts "The Beast" will bomb with American moviegoers.
"Generally, these movies do very poorly at the box office," he told WND. "'Saved!' which had a lot of publicity, did about $6 million at the box office. That's pitiful."
Baehr said bringing the film's contentions into the light of day in the media works well to expose the agenda of its promoters.
"The way you pull the teeth of a false argument is bring up the argument first and show that it's frivolous and fallacious," he said. "Of course it's frivolous. The original apostles wouldn't have gone to their death for Jesus if they didn't believe he was real."
Baehr said, "There is a small group of teenagers who will see ['The Beast'] who will be convinced it is the truth. It will have an impact on a susceptible few."
One of the film's producers, Amanda Jackson, was contacted for this story but did not respond by press time.
haha! yeah, right. over hundreds of years numerous writers who did not know each other, whose accounts reflect the same shimmering thread, were "inspired" to continue this fraud...and historians...yeah, that makes sense.
we'll see...we'll see, won't we?
I bet Michael Cimino is excited. Heavens Gate will no long be the biggest bomb in the history of Hollywood. I hope Christians ignore it and don't give it publicity it doesn't deserve.
There is no doubt we are in the time of tribulation. Revelation tells us to beware the False Prophet... And how will we know who he is...
Some say that you can tell because he will claim False miracles promising life from death.. well isn't a promise of life from death exactly what Embryonic stem cell research is?
If He didn't exist, then why would a Roman and member of the Sanhedrin who went out of his way to persecute 'Christians' immediately turn from an enemy to one of the most zealous advocates and apostles to explain and document what and who Jesus Christ was all about?
This is true.
The historical accounts come from the Gospels.
This shows the accuracy of the Gospels (which historians have accepted)
The Lord Jesus Christ is someone no one could have invented! '
The person who could invent such a character would have to be greater then the character itself.
The one fact that the historians will not touch is the Resurrection which makes Christianity different then any other religion.
We have a risen Saviour, all other religions follow dead teachers. (1Cor.15)
I say we just ask Him to "take care" of this "movie".
........(British-movies-TV)...'Work makes Free'.....
.....coming,....films by/about....C.H.Dodd and George E. Ladd..........Preterist-Evangelical-Gang?
1 This is a cash in on the Da Vinci Code craze.
2 Looks cheap.
Perfect! Where do i send the money...
The best way to handle this movie would be to ignore it. If people start to protest it and give it free publicity, everyone will want to go and see it out of curiosity.
The premise sounds lame enough; if we treat it with a collective yawn, it'll go straight to the $1.98 bin at Blockbuster, and then the big argument will be whether or not the director's career ever existed.
ROTFLOL!! Truly, created from out of thin air.
The day is at hand, when Christians, and Bible fearing men/women are pointed out as Hateful People, not willing to tolerate other religions. They will call us hypocrites, Bible Believers, and they will persecute us in their mind first, then, the days of old will return.
I agree, don't bring the attention of the media to ourselves, let the Lord place HIS glory on such an event as this. However, don't take this as an idle "no harm doing" sort of thing either.
2nd Timothy 2:8
(Romans 10:17).......not by BBC/TV......movies)
Josephus, a Jewish historian and non Christian wrote about Jesus.
Yep, I can see how that peace and love thing would really upset people.
I'd recommend to all, God fearing, Bible believers to see this film, so that they are prepared to give an answer at work, and other times. This is Satans tool, why not keep one up on the ol' serpant, and know some of it's tricks!?
But many people, too many are enjoying "The pleasures of sin for a season" What they don't know, is their season will end before they get a chance to recant their lifestyles!
E.G. Eastern Religion (chinese, japanese, india, etc). These are highly accepted and practiced by millions of americans. Even christians.
Yoga, Chinese Good Luck, Eastern Meditation. You'll see it everywhere, it's even in the linen department at your local store. You'll not see any crosses or scriptures or things depicting Christianity, unless you walk into a church or Book Store.
Tell a big lie long enough........
Bump for later!
I'm predicting dozens of FR threads about the movie, some of them numbering 3000+ replies. Someone will post a picture thread of a little band of fellows FReeping the movie theatre.
Now taking bets.
hmmmm... if anyone made even a non-fictional documentary on Mohammesd's life (padeophilia et al), he'd have his throat slit. We don't do things like that. Hmmmm.... are jihadis so bad after all?
This theory generally includes the supposition that Paul was the one who invented Jesus.
One might chose to discount Josephus.
But then, there is Tacitus, who says:
"But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the bounties that the prince could bestow, nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind."
He was a Roman historian who had no agenda except to document what had happened.
There are also a number of apocryphal gospels that provide much evidence.
Here's a hundred
The first stages of arrogance include behavior which denies what God provides. Later stages of arrogance actually attack what He has provided in an attempt to counterfeit and openly defeat God.
Neither effort in arrogance provides life.
The difference is that if identical films were made "debunking" Islam and Christianity, the one debunking Islam would result in a few murders and many dead careers, the one "debunking" Christianity would result in several Academy awards. Go figure.
Ho Hum... I've read the end of the book guys.... WE WIN.
"...I wonder why the single most mind-blowing event of all time went unnoticed by historians who were in Rome at the time ..."
Maybe because they were in Rome. The Crucifixion occurred just outside of Jerusalem.
People may have forgotten the Father, but the Father has not forgotten us! It is best if we all keep that in mind.
Let us all put on the Armor of God, and be Soldiers ready at hand, mind and spirit!
Strange how Jesus has staying power, isn't it? The most recent example is the Soviet Union and the icons of communism, who destroyed the churches and attempted to wipe out Christianity by murder, theft and destruction. Now, they're on the trashheap of history and Jesus has moved to the center stage of many Russians' lives. It happens time and again with godless icons who attempt to crush Christianity: Hitler, Napoleon, Mao, the list goes on.
I would laugh - but he can face the Truth now, or face Him later...
SHHH!! Rome didn't exist!