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WHY I AM SUPPORTING JOHN KERRY. Risk Management (Sullivan)
The New Republic ^ | October 26, 2004 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 10/26/2004 1:45:29 PM PDT by ARCADIA

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Well, he sounds conflicted in his endorsement of Kerry. I guess Sullivan can't get past the how differently the war has turned out as expected.

RECAP - I think that he makes some strong points -

The absence of WMDs is just a miserable failure, pure and simple.

Not anticipating the strength of the insurgency - also a major mistake

I have a hard time getting past these two issues as well

1 posted on 10/26/2004 1:45:30 PM PDT by ARCADIA
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To: ARCADIA

all this is window dressing

gay marriage is the only real reason he is endorsing Kerry, he even said Bush can't get his vote in the advocate because of it. It would be helpful if he was a more honest about it.


2 posted on 10/26/2004 1:47:34 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: ARCADIA

Hokum. We all know why Sullivan is backing Kerry. Its too bad that he has lost so much focus.


3 posted on 10/26/2004 1:48:06 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: ARCADIA

"I am Jack's spastic colon."


4 posted on 10/26/2004 1:48:17 PM PDT by smonk
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To: ARCADIA

Sorry, but the prospect of this nation being turned over to Eurotrolls and the UN makes me sick to my stomach. I'll take another 4 years of Bush over that.

My boat's name is Arcadia. Now I'm seriously thinking of renaming it.


5 posted on 10/26/2004 1:48:39 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 ("Don't bother giving me liberty: I'll take it for myself, thanks.")
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To: ARCADIA

6 posted on 10/26/2004 1:48:55 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: ARCADIA

Little Bobby was in his 4th grade class when the teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up - fireman, policeman, salesman, doctor, lawyer, etc. Little Bobby was being uncharacteristically quiet, so the teacher asked him about his father.

"My father's an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off his clothes in front of other men and they put money in his underwear. Sometimes, if the offer is really good, he will go home with some guy for money."

The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some exercises and took little Bobby aside to ask him, "Is that really true about your father?"

"No," said Bobby, "He works for the Democratic National Committee to elect John Kerry, but I was too embarrassed to say that in front of the other kids." !!!


7 posted on 10/26/2004 1:49:02 PM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: ARCADIA

Good luck with that, Andrew...


8 posted on 10/26/2004 1:49:02 PM PDT by danneskjold (All balloons, what the hell! There's nothing falling! What the f%#@ are you guys doing up there?)
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To: ARCADIA

If he were being honest he would have said: I support John Kerry because he is pro-homosexual and becuase Bush support the FMA. Period. That's his reason. Personally, I think he always has been a liberal and only faking conservative thought to push gay issues on the GOP. He's been largely successful and now is the time to go home to the DNC.


9 posted on 10/26/2004 1:49:07 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: ARCADIA

Andrew the Butt Pirate cannot forgive the President for not supporting gay marriage. All the rest of the booshwa in this piece is simply CYA (something which Mr Sullivan should do more of!).


10 posted on 10/26/2004 1:49:42 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: ARCADIA
If Bush wins, the religious right, already dominant in Republican circles, will move the GOP even further toward becoming a sectarian, religious grouping. If Kerry loses, the antiwar left will move the party back into the purist, hate-filled wilderness, ceding untrammeled power to a resurgent, religious Republicanism
Those are two excellent reasons to vote for Bush!
11 posted on 10/26/2004 1:50:16 PM PDT by Jibaholic
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To: ARCADIA

Who gives a rats ass?


12 posted on 10/26/2004 1:50:29 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is a threat to national security)
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To: Pikamax

Yea,Andrew "You're a bigot if you disagree with me" Sullivan cares about one issue and one issue alone


13 posted on 10/26/2004 1:50:35 PM PDT by skaterboy
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To: ARCADIA

The only reason he's supporting Kerry is because he's throwing a hissy fit because Pres. Bush is supporing the constitutional amendment that would keep the courts from imposing homosexual "marriage" on the states.


14 posted on 10/26/2004 1:51:07 PM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: MeekOneGOP; mhking
FUDGE PACKERS FOR KERRY!


15 posted on 10/26/2004 1:51:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: ARCADIA

This whole article is BS. Sullivan has his panties in a bunch about gay marriage and that's the only issue he's voting. He's done a complete 180 from where he was a year ago.


16 posted on 10/26/2004 1:51:29 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: ARCADIA

Sullivan changed his tune on the President when President Bush came out against homo marriage. He's using the "Iraq war is a miserable failure" as his cover. He's a single issue voter.


17 posted on 10/26/2004 1:51:38 PM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: ARCADIA
Anyone who calls Kerry "the lesser of two evils" doesn't know Kerry or evil.


 
 
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18 posted on 10/26/2004 1:51:56 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: ARCADIA

I guess this guy doesn't think that treason is so evil.


19 posted on 10/26/2004 1:52:26 PM PDT by nisgro
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To: ARCADIA

I have a hard time getting by anyone who would support Kerry. He's a UN loving, commie loving, America hating traitor. Can't get by that. He's also an abortionist pig. Can't put lipstick on that. He's a tax and spend Massachusetts liberal. In fact, even more liberal than Kennedy. Can't get by that. And he's a fraud and a liar to boot. Anyone who would even remotely consider Kerry as presidential material is NO conservative.


20 posted on 10/26/2004 1:52:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: ARCADIA
Not anticipating the strength of the insurgency - also a major mistake

Yea I agree Bush didn't realize just how much help the DUmbocrat party was going to be to the terrorist insurgents.

They have fed them hope that we'll elect sKerry and cut and run most of this year.

I'm sure it's cost us many lives. It's one thing for these pigs to be encouraged by Al Jazeera but when it comes from the halls of congress and the U.S. media, that's something else.

21 posted on 10/26/2004 1:53:16 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Ron in Acreage

Who gives a rat's ass?

Sullivan, obviously, and quite freely. You could probably goose his beagle, too, if you offered to play organ at Sully and sweetie's wedding.


22 posted on 10/26/2004 1:53:48 PM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: ARCADIA

And when it comes to a choice between supporting the defense of civilization, or electing someone who supports Mr Sullivan dipping his wick wherever he wants to, whom does Sullivan opt for? Sullivan you toad, the taliban would drop a wall on you. President Bush did away with them. John Kerry would still be jawboning about it!


23 posted on 10/26/2004 1:53:48 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: ARCADIA
Yeah what pisses me off the most is that damn Blix sitting there at the UN telling the world Iraq still had all those WMDs and they couldn't account for them.

The real torquer for me was when Blix stated Iraq had not complied with the last ultimatum resolution. Just sent me over the top.

Vote Bush -- stay alive.
24 posted on 10/26/2004 1:54:13 PM PDT by snooker
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To: ARCADIA

Sullivan is thinking with his anus.


25 posted on 10/26/2004 1:54:17 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for a mistake....a PR mistake" H. Hewitt show)
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To: Pikamax

I always said it, Gays and lesbians are a one issue voting block. They want the mainstream to adopt them and accept their lifestyle choices (gay marriage in particular) defacto making them a one issue voting constituency. O'Sullivan is no different. He may have been flirting with the right but in the end he needs to "get in line" No room for dissension in that constituency. Too bad. Being part of the mainstream is about breaking ranks with your constituency.


26 posted on 10/26/2004 1:54:32 PM PDT by bubman
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To: ARCADIA

YAWN


27 posted on 10/26/2004 1:54:32 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: ARCADIA

The only thing that ought to be supporting John Kerry


28 posted on 10/26/2004 1:54:44 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: ARCADIA

You should join him at the voting booth and vote for Kerry if you're that effin stupid to allow those two DNC talking points upset you


29 posted on 10/26/2004 1:54:47 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: ARCADIA

I have been trying to articulate my response to you, ARCADIA, but I am at a loss. If we, as a Republic, are as spineless and unwilling to risk any setback whatsoever as you seem to imply, then we are well and truly screwed. Go ahead, vote for Kerry. We will all just get what we deserve. Anyone that can stomach the thought of pulling a lever for that nematode is beyond trying to save. I give up.


30 posted on 10/26/2004 1:55:39 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: ARCADIA

Sullivan's endorsement comes down to one thing: gay marriage. He's willing to put the entire country at the feet of the United Nations (and, therefore, at risk), just so he can have some "right" that he thinks he's being denied. He's lost all credibility and can only do one thing after this, follow David Brock's lead.


31 posted on 10/26/2004 1:55:41 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Click my profile page to see my US Election Atlas Presidential Prediction Map!)
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To: ARCADIA

So, should an election be backward looking, i.e., punish or reward the incumbent based on performance, or should an election be forward looking, i.e., voting for the candidate most likely to do a good job for America in the future? Nothing sKerry has said really relates to the future except his many phantom "plans." His campaign has been negative through and through, merely critcizing the president's performance. He has no plan and no message. For me the choice is obvious.


32 posted on 10/26/2004 1:55:41 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against "global testing.")
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To: ARCADIA

Hey, I'm a Butt Pirate, too, here in NYC. But, I suppor this President's reelection 150%. Andrew Sullivan has become a frustrated gay man, who has decided that the only issue of any importance (while Islamic Terrorists want to kill us) is whether or not he can marry his partner in Oklahoma (or some other state, other than MA). His thought process is so unreasonable that it is a joke. He basis his entire premise of supporting Kerry on the fact that just "maybe" Kerry is telling the truth when he says he will be tough. Kerry's record belies this fact. He has never been strong - not against the terrorists, not against the Communists. This Butt Pirate, and many of this butt pirate's fellow butt pirates, are supporting the President because our security is primary.


34 posted on 10/26/2004 1:55:44 PM PDT by StephenNYC
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To: counterpunch

I guess Andrew expects that JF Kerry will heal all the gay journalists infected with AID's if he become's President.


35 posted on 10/26/2004 1:55:52 PM PDT by sitkaspruce
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To: ARCADIA

'Absence of WMDs' is disingenuous - just because the US and UN haven't found stockpiles doesn't mean they weren't there. Not necessary nuclear WMDs, but they did have chemical WMDs. They are probably in Syria or Pakistan. It's not a failure - it was a successful pre-emption of SH's nuclear and biological WMD programs.

How does one 'anticipate the strength' of a post-war insurgency before the war? I think your standards are a little unrealistic with regard to post-war insurgency. Name ONE situation in the world where guerilla fighters were easily subdued.

The media created these issues for their personal benefit, and for John Kerry's. These are not issues mature, experienced adults should take seriously. Unfortunately, holding back the lies and slants of a hostile media is like putting the finger in the dam...





36 posted on 10/26/2004 1:56:16 PM PDT by wvobiwan (Kerry/Edwards Foreign Policy Slogan: Accept our surrender or we'll sue!)
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To: ARCADIA

Hey, I'm a Butt Pirate, too, here in NYC. But, I suppor this President's reelection 150%. Andrew Sullivan has become a frustrated gay man, who has decided that the only issue of any importance (while Islamic Terrorists want to kill us) is whether or not he can marry his partner in Oklahoma (or some other state, other than MA). His thought process is so unreasonable that it is a joke. He basis his entire premise of supporting Kerry on the fact that just "maybe" Kerry is telling the truth when he says he will be tough. Kerry's record belies this fact. He has never been strong - not against the terrorists, not against the Communists. This Butt Pirate, and many of this butt pirate's fellow butt pirates, are supporting the President because our security is primary.


37 posted on 10/26/2004 1:56:18 PM PDT by StephenNYC
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To: ARCADIA
Oh gee I'm shocked that you and Andy think that Saddam should have been trusted to get rid of his WMDs.

"Bush just didn't trust Saddam enough!"

A slogan that has caught on...

38 posted on 10/26/2004 1:56:22 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: ARCADIA

His homosexual agenda trumps everything. Some people put their personal needs over the country. That person would be a Democrat.


39 posted on 10/26/2004 1:57:08 PM PDT by veronica ("Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims." Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: ARCADIA

40 posted on 10/26/2004 1:58:00 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: ARCADIA
He could have saved all that ink. He like to kiss and hug big hairy men. He likes to put his tongue (and other things) into to the available orifices of other men. He also likes to gobble up their bodily fluids. That is the reason Kerry is his man.

There, I grossed myself out. Yuck!
41 posted on 10/26/2004 1:58:08 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Bush let them steal the WMD's that never existed??????)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
He gives credit to Bush for every single significant act of the last 4 years, but then says he is wrong because of Abu Garib? As if Bush was over there with a bull horn directing the building of the pyramid.

He also rightly cites the single reason why the UN would not support the mission: Oil for Food, and French corruption. So Bush was right to go, but wrong to go because the corrupt French said no.

Sullivan has absolutely no clue. He is now irrelevant.
42 posted on 10/26/2004 1:58:14 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ARCADIA

Sullivan is British. When did he become a citizen?


43 posted on 10/26/2004 1:58:16 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: StephenNYC
At the risk of a very bad pun....

Butt Pirates for Bush!!!

44 posted on 10/26/2004 1:58:31 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: bubman
I always said it, Gays and lesbians are a one issue voting block.

My ___'s _____ was a militant lesbian now slightly toned down. Last week she said she (SURPRISE!)would not be voting for Kerry. But I think the fact that she is Vietnamese has a little to do with it.

45 posted on 10/26/2004 1:58:44 PM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

46 posted on 10/26/2004 1:59:08 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: StephenNYC

"This Butt Pirate, and many of this butt pirate's fellow butt pirates, are supporting the President because our security is primary."

Don't we all have to set priorities every day? Sully doesn't know what's important.


47 posted on 10/26/2004 1:59:18 PM PDT by SBprone
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To: ARCADIA

What a long-winded bag of hot air. This just shows how little this person understands of defense issues.

Kerry should not be running for President, He should be locked up in Portsmouth Naval Prison, guarded by those men with the shiny shoes. (I know, Portsmouth isn't open anymore, but Fort Leavenworth just does not sound bad enough for a treasonous rat like Kerry.)

He is a pathological liar, lies about his service, his medals, his antiwar activities, his public service record, his deer hunting exploits, his meeting with foreign leaders, his meeting with the entire Security Council, etc. etc. etc.

I know I probably sound like Lawrence O'Donnell, but there are two major differences. One, the truth is an absolute defense against slander. Two, I know where the Swift Boat Vets are coming from.

Who do you believe? 240 men who are willing to leave the safe, comfortable obscurity of their lives and stand together against the venom being spewed on them by the Democrats and Liberal Media, or John F. Kerry?


48 posted on 10/26/2004 2:00:01 PM PDT by rlmorel
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To: Rummyfan

Good one, except I've always preferred the term "rump ranger".


49 posted on 10/26/2004 2:00:26 PM PDT by Elephino
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To: ARCADIA
who he really supports!
50 posted on 10/26/2004 2:00:28 PM PDT by rang1995
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