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[MN] 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS video may be linked to missing explosives in Iraq
KSTP-TV 5 ^ | 10-28-4 | KSTP-TV 5

Posted on 10/28/2004 6:41:11 AM PDT by Petronski

A 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew in Iraq shortly after the fall of Saddam Hussein was in the area where tons of explosives disappeared.

The missing explosives are now an issue in the presidential debate. Democratic candidate John Kerry is accusing President Bush of not securing the site they allegedly disappeared from. President Bush says no one knows if the ammunition was taken before or after the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003 when coalition troops moved in to the area.

Using GPS technology and talking with members of the 101st Airborne 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS determined our crew embedded with them may have been on the southern edge of the Al Qaqaa installation, where that ammunition disappeared. Our crew was based just south of Al Qaqaa. On April 18, 2003 they drove two or three miles north into what is believed to be that area...

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5 EYEWITNESS NEWS e-mailed pictures of the material we found to experts in Washington Wednesday to see if it is the same kind of high explosives that went missing in Al Qaqaa. They could not make that determination.

The footage is now in the hands of security experts to see if it is indeed the explosives in question.

(Excerpt) Read more at kstp.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; ammogate; hmx; kerrylies; rdx
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To: Petronski

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41 posted on 10/28/2004 7:21:39 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: backhoe

Interesting. Know anything about this stuff?


42 posted on 10/28/2004 7:23:33 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: Petronski

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43 posted on 10/28/2004 7:23:55 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: spotbust1


DUmmies need to have a mental disorder if they believe insurgents loaded up 40 tractor trailers worth of weapons right under our noses.


Let's look at this story, They don't know where they are at, just from the GPS coordinates they are somewhere near Al-Qaqa.

US has removed/destroyed 400,000 TONS of weapons in Iraq since the start of the war.

The reporter has no idea where he is, but they "think" they are in the spot where the 380 tons were, and they have video of a bunch of barrels without any IAEA tags on any of it.

Naive DUmmies. They are scratching and kicking on the inside of a closed casket right now.. It's almost all over for these nitwits..


44 posted on 10/28/2004 7:25:30 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: twigs
" Why is there no Arabic on these containers? And why are they all labelled in English, at least that I can see. I heard one soldier on some show say that what he saw there was mostly written in French and German."

As the old FedExer here let me say that the orange "Explosives" label is mandated by IATA for all air transport items that are considered to be explosives. English is mandatory. I'm trying to remember from my hazmat classes, but I'm pretty sure that "1.1" is the least dangerous form of explosives (like "Class C" under the US CFR 49 shipping reg)s. It certainly would not appear to be "high" explosives, but I'll check to make sure about "1.1"

At FedEx, we were only able to take fairly stable explosives, usually they were under the domestic US regulations which is a different system from the international (IATA).

45 posted on 10/28/2004 7:25:45 AM PDT by cookcounty (WWW-Will John Kerry seek a 4th Purple Heart for fingers burnt in the Battle of Al-Qa Qaa?)
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To: finnman69

Great finds. Well done.


I wonder if the reporters/producers at this TV station know how to Google.


46 posted on 10/28/2004 7:26:33 AM PDT by Petronski (A Monday morning quarterback has never led any team to victory.)
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To: Bikers4Bush

The UN didn't seal all the entrances into the bunkers, however. Figgers.


47 posted on 10/28/2004 7:27:46 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Petronski; U S Army EOD
I hope we have as many FR explosive experts check in here, so we can develop a theory on that.

Hey, EOD! Do you have any insight on this you can proffer?

48 posted on 10/28/2004 7:28:24 AM PDT by Samwise (If you want to understand the differences between the two parties, study the nature of their enemies)
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To: Petronski; All

What we now need is someone with military or explosives experience to tell us what exactly these item are used for.


49 posted on 10/28/2004 7:28:35 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: JonDavid

after all he's a peanut farmer. They think we're so stupid as to fall for this. I wonder if C BS was in on this.


50 posted on 10/28/2004 7:33:15 AM PDT by alconservative (Jimmy Carter probably planted the peanut butter,)
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To: cookcounty

I don't know about explosives, but I heard on FoxNews this morning that a 'confidential' report to the UN [something from the IAEA] actually said there were 3..not that 3 tons of something, then in early Oct it was 140 something tons, now it's 377 tons. Fox referenced this confidential report that it and ABC had gotten.


52 posted on 10/28/2004 7:33:27 AM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: Petronski
Correction from earlier, "1.1" on the orange IATA label is the least stable: in other words, a "mass explosion hazard."
53 posted on 10/28/2004 7:34:02 AM PDT by cookcounty (WWW-Will John Kerry seek a 4th Purple Heart for fingers burnt in the Battle of Al-Qa Qaa?)
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To: js1138
Looks like butterscotch pudding mix.

Thank God I'm not the only one that looked at the pictures and thought the reporters had stumbled into a huge catering outfit.

#4 looks like the pastry chef fled for his life right after preparing creme brulees for 1000...

54 posted on 10/28/2004 7:36:08 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: RichardSuccer

Ok "Dick Succher"

RichardSuccer
Since Oct 27, 2004


55 posted on 10/28/2004 7:37:22 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: JJDPower
You would have to understand Channel 5 out of the Twin Cities...

They are ABC affiliated, and while they are not as bad as Channel 4 (CBS), their bias is extreme hard left.

For an example of this, you just need to watch about 60 seconds. They fawn over everything that Kerry does --- and they hyperventalated this week over some actor who came to the cities for skerry.

Now compare that to 4 years ago, GWB makes his first visit to MN (normally no GOP pres candidate ever visits MN). First they covered Gore's visit to Florida for 5 minutes and then briefly mentioned that GWB stopped in MN

HUH ??? oh yea, no bias there. The first stop by a presidential GOP candidate in years if not decades and they cannot bring themselves to talk about it

OK OK, rant off now

56 posted on 10/28/2004 7:37:24 AM PDT by coder2
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To: RichardSuccer

looking at your posts, I would say I have found a troll.


57 posted on 10/28/2004 7:37:54 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Josh in PA

I agree


58 posted on 10/28/2004 7:38:40 AM PDT by spotbust1 (Gun control is when you use both hands.)
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To: JonDavid

Jimmy Carter probably planted the peanut butter, after all he's a peanut farmer. They think we're so stupid as to fall for this stuff.


59 posted on 10/28/2004 7:39:36 AM PDT by alconservative
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To: JJDPower
A couple of days ago we hear about explosives being found and now all of a sudden, a tv reporter has video of the explosives. Why is all of this info coming out now just days before the election?

Because some news orgs are actually checking their own archives, which is what the New York Times should have done before it decided to let El Baradei use them to distract everyone from the fact that the UN hates us and wants us all dead...

60 posted on 10/28/2004 7:41:03 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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