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S Africans 'Armed To The Hilt'
BBC ^ | 10-28-2004 | Guy Lamb

Posted on 10/28/2004 7:35:42 AM PDT by blam

S Africans 'armed to the hilt'

South Africans own more guns than the police and army

South African civilians own more guns than the police and military combined, according to a study by Gun Free South Africa and Cape Town University. Some 8.4% of the population own a gun, which amounts to 3.7 million firearms, the researchers found.

In the region, on average 2.27% of the population own guns, while Mozambique has a rate of 0.04%, the study says.

South Africa has one of the world's highest incidences of gun-related crime which has led to new fire arm laws.

Apartheid legacy

According to the legislation, which came into effect in July, gun owners now have to reapply for their licences, undergo stringent checks and sit an exam.

South Africa's high rate is a result of the legacy of apartheid where members of the white community were encouraged to own a firearm

The act also raised the legal age for owning a firearm from 16 to 21.

"South Africa's high rate is a result of the legacy of apartheid where members of the white community were encouraged to own a firearm," report author, Guy Lamb, from Cape Town University's Centre for Conflict Resolution, told BBC News Online.

He said South Africans widely regard their environment as dangerous and so are looking for ways to protect themselves.

Additionally, members of the security forces were previously allowed to keep their firearms when they left the force.

He said that gun shops reported that black South Africans now accounted for most of their customers.

There are some 500 gun shops in the country.

Strict laws

In spite of its 16-year civil war, Mozambique has the lowest level of gun ownership - at 0.4% of the population, the study says.

In Swaziland 0.95% of the population owned firearms, in Botswana 1.9% and in Zambia 0.86%.

GUN OWNERSHIP RATES

South Africa 8.4%
Namibia 5.4%
Zambia 0.86%
Swaziland 0.95%
Mozambique 0.04%
Malawi 0.26%
Botswana 1.9%
Zimbabwe 0.32%

"Colonial laws in some countries... were very strict on firearms. These laws were maintained after independence," said Mr Lamb.

"In some countries, people don't feel the need to carry guns."

He also said gaining access to a gun in many countries was difficult, especially as guns are often not made locally.

"Many people do not have the capital to buy a firearm," he added.

The report, Hide and Seek: Taking Account of Small Arms in Southern Africa, was published this week.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africans; armed; hilt
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1 posted on 10/28/2004 7:35:42 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

If the BBC is that worked up about South Africe then Texas must give them a heart attack.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 7:37:49 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: blam
And in Zimbabwe with its very low gun ownership rate - 0.32% - there is madman in power killing and murdering his people by the thousands...of course, those stats never count.

If the whites in South Africa give up their guns, they are doomed...
3 posted on 10/28/2004 7:40:10 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: blam
8.4%? That's nothing!

BTW, how about this pic accompanying the story? Not too infammatory is it?

4 posted on 10/28/2004 7:41:40 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: TXBSAFH

Any white person in South Africa who does not own several guns is either (a) insanely naiive or (b) a crime victim (rape victim if female).


5 posted on 10/28/2004 7:41:47 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: blam

If I lived in South Africa I'd have belt-fed weapons around my property.


6 posted on 10/28/2004 7:41:58 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: BenLurkin
BTW, how about this pic accompanying the story?

There appears to be a cartridge in the chamber.

The photographer was not too bright.

7 posted on 10/28/2004 7:44:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (I actually did vote for John Kerry, before I voted against him.)
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Never any mention of the pre- and post-Apartheid crime rates.

I wonder why? </sarcasm>

8 posted on 10/28/2004 7:46:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (I actually did vote for John Kerry, before I voted against him.)
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To: BenLurkin

You call that a gun? That's not a gun, that's a little pistol.

This is a gun

9 posted on 10/28/2004 7:56:08 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TXBSAFH

Ownership of one in 12 people hardly constitutes "armed to the hilt".


10 posted on 10/28/2004 7:57:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: blam

Translation: This is part of the UN's Eliminate all guns from the planet campaign headed up by that commie skank Rebecca Peters.

GET OUT OF THE UN NOW!


11 posted on 10/28/2004 8:00:50 AM PDT by 50 Cal (A Lawyer is nothing but a Politician in Larval Form!)
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To: TC Rider

"Did you see the size of that gun? It's bigger than him!"


12 posted on 10/28/2004 8:01:52 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: blam

"South African civilians own more guns than the police and military combined..."

Hooray! Now if the good guys can just get organized...


13 posted on 10/28/2004 8:02:06 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (What can you expect from a political party full of master-debators?)
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To: blam
On the other hand, the BBC screwed up and reported this recently:

Murder rates fall in South Africa

Regardless, I would observe that South Africa with its piddly 8.8% gun ownership rate has a 45/100,000 homicide rate. The US, with a gun ownership rate of 50%, has a 9/100,000 homicide rate.

Hmmm...maybe something else is at work other than gun ownership rates...y'think?

14 posted on 10/28/2004 8:06:08 AM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The photographer was not too bright.

If you get shot while taking this shot, can you call it a "dummy round"?

15 posted on 10/28/2004 8:12:09 AM PDT by absalom01
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To: blam

According to the book THE WASHING OF THE SPEARS the author tells how in the late 1800's Blacks in South Africa would work a full year to get a flintlock trade musket.

The British were so alrmed they instituted a thing called GUN REGISTRATION for Blacks. When they brought in their privatly owned muskets the firearms were confiscated or damaged beyond use, then returned to the natives.


16 posted on 10/28/2004 8:14:20 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (DEMS STILL LIE like dirty dam flea biten stinkin tick infested s*** eatin yellow dogs.)
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He said that gun shops reported that black South Africans now accounted for most of their customers.

Could that be because South Africa's insanely high crime rate tends to impact the poorer segments of the population more? Duh.

17 posted on 10/28/2004 8:14:54 AM PDT by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Do you justify racial oppresion for a perceived sense of security???


18 posted on 10/28/2004 8:15:38 AM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: blam
Also, I would note that Swaziland, cited by the BBC as having an approvingly low gun ownership rate, had a murder rate in the 1990s (80/100,000) quite a bit higher that of South Africa (then 65/100,000)!
19 posted on 10/28/2004 8:15:54 AM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: TC Rider

Is that a M-25 .45 Colt?


20 posted on 10/28/2004 8:20:58 AM PDT by Mini-14
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