Posted on 11/06/2004 5:53:00 PM PST by Ain Soph Aur
Edited on 11/06/2004 6:13:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Starr report had his greatest moments leaning against the sink in the bathroom off the Oval Office.
How did the guy get a SHOTGUN into downtown Manhattan??? Did no one see him?>?
9 months later the mother can give the child up for adoption or keep the baby.
If the mother gives the baby up, how is her future life affected? Shame over giving birth to an unwed/adulterous child? Whatever happened to the scandal about having sex out of wedlock (and flaunting it)? Whatever happened to the scandal of having an abortion (Planned Parenthood was promoting "I had an abortion t-shirts"). Surely the scandal over giving birth to an illegitimate child has to be less than the scandal over killing that same baby.
If the father encourages the abortion, he's off the hook. If the mother carry's the child and keeps him/her, that man is financially held accountable for the next 18 years.
Do mothers look at their kids and say "if only I had had an abortion, my life would be so much better"? Or do more women who HAD abortions (or even gave their kids up for adoption) contemplate "if only...".
Birth control is widely available (and the word "NO" still holds up in court). Abortion does not need to be a type of birth control.
I fully agree with you, but I don't see how that post had any relevance to this particular thread.
Perhaps. But I don't think Canada encourages or even permits immigration by the mentally ill.
Prozac or electroshock therapy would have been a better option.
I guess he will still be able to vote.
Both are "permanent solutions" to temporary problems (if one can even be considered a problem).
One dies in a voluntary act while the other dies purely on an involuntary basis.
I'm saddened that this man killed himself. I am grateful that his lashing out at society was stopped with his own death and not by him killing others. Suicide is an act designed to make others feel pain.
On the scale of things, I have a hard time putting his pain ahead of the millions of aborted children.
He got a headline out of it. There are suicide victims every day who never make the news (his was at a landmark). No one ever writes an obituary to the child who never grew up.
Maybe someone else seeing this thread (including DU trolls looking for examples of insensitivity) will see what I wrote and contemplate it. I hope that it puts things in perspective.
Fair warning. Folks with a long and generally good posting history can get away with things that might get a new poster banned. You did well to show discretion at this stage.
...nothing but nothing is more precious than LIFE. You only have one!...period!
GOD gave you that LIFE to do something with it, NOT to terminate it!
It is hard and difficult to live...very easy to end it.
Friend LIFE is an intricate web of many things, at times hard to judge/explain, let the BIG Man do the fine tuning, look forward to a new better day and always aim for the shinny City on the Hill.
Keep the faith, everything is going to be a OK!
There is only one unforgivable sin and it isn't suicide.
I will also add that both are selfish acts.
One is a legal "choice" while the other is not. Does the state get to tell us what we can do with our body?
Please don't despair, my friend.
I, too, suffered back pain off and on during my adult life and truly debilitating pain for over a decade after the birth of my first child. I was crippled to the point that I planned my ever-shrinking life completely around my pain. At times I wondered if I'd be better off dead...if my family would be better off if I was no longer the burden to them I felt I had become. Certainly some days the pain alone tempted me to consider ending it all, but hope kept me going...and stubborn will, I think. I prayed about my limitations a lot...I took lots of drugs...saw lots of doctors...and even contemplated surgery for my "bulging disc".
I also continued searching for answers and a cure, because I was terrified of an operation...and one day, I found my cure. At a discount bookstore, I found a book-on-tape narrated by a doctor who has pioneered research into a condition known as Tension Myositis Syndrome. I couldn't believe what I was hearing because he described my episodes to a "t". And amazingly enough, this doctor told me I could get better by developing an understanding of the true origin of my pain. My library had his book and after I read it, I checked out his website, ordered his video, purchased and read his book again. I talked to a former patient of the doctor's and he explained things more completely to me. Once I understood the diagnosis and put the doctor's suggestions into practice, I began to get better very rapidly.
Last summer I rode roller coasters again for the first time in years...I rode water rides at the amusement park, being slapped to and fro, falling off inner tubes without injury. I can sit on the floor to play with my kids...I go to football games and other events I used to avoid because the uncomfortable seats "hurt my back". I began to do many, many physically challenging things that used to bring on my worst attacks...and to my delight, with the Lord's gracious blessings, I feel I have my life back again.
I'd be very happy to share my brief story of recovery and the doctor's information with anyone who wants it.
If you've reached rock bottom, as I had, perhaps your mind will be open to the possibility of this diagnosis and unconventional cure. The medical establishment makes millions from back pain sufferers every year. I tell everyone I meet who has chronic pain about this doctor's research and my own life-altering recovery. It's hard to believe I'm the same person I was "then" because of how normal my life is "now".
My email is in my profile...or drop me a PM. I hope to hear from you soon. In the meantime, I hope just knowing that you are in my prayers tonight will soothe your heart.
I tend to agree with you though not exactly sure what you mean by culture of death if you would care to explain. I gather it's the leaders you talk about...
He should have called Gore to find a way to cope; God's mercy.
Ohh, a good one; do you think there any oil of wintergreen bottles to be found on any retail shelves in Paris?
Come on? True?
Would you agree that abortion is also a permanent solution to a temporary "problem"?
YES.
I also think that women, some, have no idea that this child is coming into her life for a reason. A very important reason. It's not a punishment. It's a precious gift.
I think it is lib-religionist-"pro-choicers" who are hung up on the story of Adam and Eve, and that getting pregnant is a "curse", never following through to the end of the "story". I've been scratching my head all these years, wondering, how liberals can consider themselves progressive, when in fact, they've hardly even finished a chapter...
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