Skip to comments.Prescott Bush and the Nazi (I need help refuting this)
Posted on 11/09/2004 8:50:11 AM PST by Warrior Nurse
THE BUSH NAZI CONNECTION
Richard Draheim is a policy analyst and speaker. He appears on the Dallas political affairs TV magazine America Outside the Beltway as a panelist and is a featured columnist for The Dallas Libertarian Post.
Why has Presidential candidate George W. Bush been able to raise uncounted tens of millions of dollars? It can't be because of his positions on the issues; he has scrupulously avoided taking many. It can't be because of his knowledge of world events; he thinks being asked such questions is a trick." (He will embarrassingly lie, saying that he knows the answer to a question, and half a sentence later admit that he doesn't.)
No, George "I'm No Longer Drunk" Bush's support is because the Bush family fortune is old, and it's big, and comes from a century old alliance with the most powerful interests on Wall Street and in industry. Worse, part of Dub-a-Ya's money comes from grandfather Prescott Bush's financial alliance with the Nazis.
On October 20, 1942, the US Alien Property Custodian, under the "Trading With the Enemy Act," seized the shares of the Union Banking Corporation (UBC), of which Prescott Bush was a director and shareholder. The largest shareholder was E. Roland Harriman. (Bush was also the managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman, a leading Wall Street investment firm.)
The UBC was established to send American capital to Germany to finance the reorganization of its industry under the Nazis. Their leading German partner was the notorious Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, who wrote a book admitting much of this called "I Paid Hitler."
Among the companies financed was the Silesian-American Corporation, which was also managed by Prescott Bush, and by his father-in-law George Herbert Walker, who supplied Dub-a-Ya with his name. The company was vital in supplying coal to the Nazi war industry. It too was seized as a Nazi-front on November 17, 1942. The largest company Bush's UBC helped finance was the German Steel Trust, responsible for between one-third and one-half of Nazi iron and explosives.
Prescott Bush was also a director of the Harriman Fifteen Corporation, (this one owned largely by Roland's brother, Averell Harriman), which owned about a third of the Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation, the rest owned by Friedrich Flick, (a member of Himmler's "Circle of Friends" who donated to the S.S.).
Republican Presidential candidate Bush's great-grandfather, Bert Walker, helped organize the Harriman investment in the Hamburg-America Line of ships, of which grandfather Prescott became a director. It was seized on August 28, 1942 because it was used to give free passage to Nazi propaganda and propagandists, and had earlier shipped guns to the Nazi's private armies to assist their takeover of Germany.
Further examples would be more tedious than shocking. But, given these evil financial dealings, how did Prescott later become a Republican Senator, and George H.W. become President? Well,the two leading attorneys for these Bush-Harriman-Nazi deals were John Foster Dulles, later Secretary of State under Eisenhower, and Allen Dulles, future head of the CIA.
Prescott's father, Samuel P. Bush, owned Buckeye Steel Castings Co. which made parts for the Harriman brothers' father's (E.H. Harriman) railroads. Harriman's financing for the railroads came largely from William Rockefeller. These shipped the oil of his brother John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil. (This was the origin of the two Georges' involvement in the oil business.)
Samuel Bush became a leader in President Woodrow Wilson's "War Socialism" as director of small armaments and ammunition on the War Industries Board (which set up coercive price-fixing cartels over American industry during World War I). There, Bush assisted Percy Rockefeller (son of William) in his takeover of small arms manufacturers.
The elder George Bush continued the family tradition of support for totalitarian governments by supporting the Communist Chinese in the UN, and by directly aiding its military as President.
Will the younger George Bush continue to support big government, or will he support free markets? His first political act was a tax increase to subsidize his baseball stadium. When libertarians and conservative Republicans were opposing the bailout of American banks that loaned money to the Mexican government, the Texas Governor supported it, because of his connections to those Wall Street Banks.
This is in keeping with the actual history of the Republican Party. It was founded in the 1850's explicitly as the party of high taxes to subsidize politically connected businesses, (then known as "internal improvements"). All Republican Presidents in the last fifty years have continued to increase the size of the government, and claims of support for free markets and lowered taxes are mere rhetorical cover. Texas Governor George Bush will continue that tradition.
Good luck with all that!
Whatever you do, don't use logic and reason to refute this.
Liberals are immune to them.
Exactly. Even the most brilliant and complete refutation of the above crap isn't going to dissuade those idiots from thinking Bush is Hitler.
Gosh wonder who he voted for?
so let's explore the Kennedy's life history under daddy joe warbucks..or let's explore the history of many other prominent American names - not just a few of which made their fortunes in drug smuggling or booze running..
Arguing with idiots is like talking to your dog. It irritates you and frustrates the dog.
what exactly are you trying to refute?
Bush's father had some shady connections to Nazi-related businesses in germany.
In addition, IBM sold punch-card tabulation machines to the Nazi party which they later used to catalog jews and other "unneccessary people" in their concentration camps.
I wouldnt try and refute it. Giving the author of the piece any time is only strengthening his position.
It is my understanding that all of the major newspapers in the US did the research and refuted this nonsense years ago when Bush 41 was running.
That would include the NYTimes. An archival search should do the trick.
I heard Arnold's dad was a Nazi. I also heard Mel Gibson's dad made some derrogatory comments about jews. IBM traded with the Nazis as did MANY companies.
My point is, so what? Yep, Nazi's were bad and most everybody knows it. Bush isn't going to be un-elected if indeed some ancestor of his traded with some Nazi oil people.
God only knows what kind of crap my great-grandfather did and same goes to the writer of this article.
I'd recommend just walking around any such "road apples" that you find in your travels.
If you look into sKerry's family past, you will find insanity...
This is so old it's grown moss..Why bother?
I have to go with the consensus... it's silly to try and refute idiocy because you'll have to enter the mud. But if I *DID* respond, it would be something like this...
*John Kerry has never actually denied having sexual relations with a goat.
This kind of old money doesn't know any allegiance to anything except money and power. Right, Left, Communist, Democratic, these are just words to the uber-rich, especially in the arms, oil and banking business. What counts is where the cash is. And it's not limited to the conservatives. Old Joe Kennedy made a pile bootlegging booze in prohibition. When you reach the highest levels of any government, the lines between the elected and the corporate vanish. They are the same hand in the same glove. Influence peddling is nothing new, George Bush the senior's work on behalf of Carlyle is nothing new. There is a long line of ex-president's from both sides cashing in.
This crap is the same used by the Neo-Nazi, Skin head, Identity Movement, nut cases who hate Jews and spew nothing but lies and hate. Any one who associates themselves with this tired and old nonsense is by default a fool, idiot, or neo-Nazi; take your pick.
Joe also dealt with the Nazis and John was screwing a Nazi spy.
Libertarians, not liberals, are responsible for the article.
The sins of the father need not be visited on the grandson. As a Jew and an American, I'm proud to have voted for the re-electoin of George W. Bush on November 2.
One of the late-night comics, I forget who, once reported that Arnold Schwarzenegger also had some Nazi-involvement in his family's past. It seems that his father-in-law, some guy named Joe Kennedy, was an anti-semite and a friend of the Nazi government (and of the pro-Nazi faction of the elite in England) while US ambassador to England during the 1930s.
The Uriah Heeps of the world would manhandle the social conservative victory----and dilute the presidential mandate conferred by proto-conservatives----for their own self-serving agendas.
The Uriah Heeps could care less for the rights of the unborn and the restoration of conservative values to our Nation-----the proto-conservative issues that drove millions of Christians to the polls.
The agenda-laden, elliptical thinkers lurk in the shadows plotting ways to take over conservative victories.
It ain't gonna happen.
Any mucking up of our hard-won conservative victory will be met with fierce resistance.
Moral issues were this election's key to victory, and moral issues will set the agenda.
Every card-carrying conservative worth his/her salt knows what "moral issues" means.
Karl Rove knew where to get the "values voters" to give Bush the majorities he needed to win. Rove is not the only one who knows where the "values voters" are.
I read a refutation regarding the Bush-Nazi argument, and it seemed to me that the only connection there was, was that Prescott owned 1 share of stock in a company that the Nazi's were connected to, and that somehow proved that the Bush's were financing the Nazi's.
Ted Kennedy's dad's fortune came from bootlegging, and the Forbes family, of John Forbes Kerry fame, not the magazine, were opium smugglers, in conjunction with William Russell, founder of Skull and Bones.
The facts are these: The Nazis flirted with the Republicans for awhile but then they discovered that DemocRATS make much more compliant dupes and stooges so they took over the Democrat Party instead.
Tinfoil hat outbreak.
This has been refuted years ago. It basically boils down to Prescott owning one share and being honorary chairman, of a company that was a subsidiary of a German company who was owned by a dude that defected from the Nazi camp in 1938(?), I also believe that guy was persecuted and died in the concentration camps.
The details are hazy, but if that is a Nazi connection thats a pretty weak arguement.
One word: "Scoreboard"
Get the book The Bushes by the Schweizer couple....they spend 3 pages on it.
No different than any other whiteshoe investment house that had investments in Germany or handled German investments here
Regarding these allegations, the Anti-Defamation League has stated, "Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, have circulated widely through the Internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated." The rumors began with ultrarightist attacks on George H.W. Bush during his 1980 presidential run, and were renewed during his 1988 run.
The New York Herald-Tribune never referred to him as "Hitler's Financial Angel". The Tribune referred to a German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, as "Hitler's Angel," and mentioned Bush only as an employee of an investment banking firm Thyssen used in the USA. The label was ironic, since by the time the Tribune article appeared, Hitler had turned on Thyssen and imprisoned him. There has been a determined effort by Canadian bloggers, apparently connected with Lyndon LaRouche, to circulate reports that Bush himself was known as "Hitler's Angel".
A few points:
1) Prescott Bush owned 1 share of stock in UBC.
2) In 1939 "notorious Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen" came out against the Nazi regime and was labelled an enemy of the regime. He fled Germany but was eventually captured in France by the Nazis and spent 4+ years in prison until the Allied victory.
3) Many U.S. businesses had dealings with Nazi Germany right up U.S. involvement in the war. Prescott Bush's ties are extremely weak at best. There are many others, e.g. JFK, whose families had ties at least as strong.
Do some searches on the web. As usual the left only present carefully selected facts that support their claims and ignores any "inconvenient" information entirely.
Couldn't get past this nonsense. The author should've at least went to a bar and watched the debates on TV if he's unwilling to give his dollars to evil corporations for a TV or computer.
President Bush owes his family inheritance to Adolf Hitler, and his grandfather, Prescott Bush, helped finance the Nazi rise to power in Germany. These stories had circulated for years but resurfaced on May 13, 2003, in the Cuban Communist Party newspaper Granma, headlined, "Bush Family Funded Adolf Hitler." As the Associated Press reports, Prescott had been on the board of Union Banking Corp., whose majority owner, the Thyssen family of Germany, indeed had funded the Nazis against a feared communist takeover of Germany in the 1920s and 1930s. Family leader Fritz Thyssen broke with Hitler over the 1938 Kristallnacht pogrom against the Jews, was stripped of his citizenship and fortune, and was in a Nazi prison at the time the elder Bush sat on that board. There is no evidence that Prescott Bush, who owned just one share of Union Banking, had anything to do with the Thyssen political work in Germany.
Some critics go even further to accuse the president of having inherited ill-gotten profits from a Nazi slave-labor operation near the Auschwitz death camp in Poland. But the Polish company in which Prescott Bush had an interest, Silesian-American Corp., was stolen by the Nazis in 1939, the year before Auschwitz was built. Discussing this controversy, columnist Joe Conason of the New York Observer writes, "Henry Ford was a Nazi collaborator. Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. was a Nazi sympathizer. Unless additional information emerges to indict him, Prescott Bush Sr. was neither. To misuse such terms for political advantage against his grandson is to trivialize very grave offenses."
If Bush isn't tied to the Nazis, at least he acts like one. Soros was the first major figure during this campaign season to accuse President Bush of Nazi-like tendencies. In 2002 and 2003, mulling how he could use his fortune to bring down the president, the superrich currency speculator decided that the administration's post-9/11 counterterrorism methods were reminiscent of Hitler's regime. He told the Washington Post, "When I hear Bush say, 'You're either with us or against us,' it reminds me of the Germans."
That helped give cover to others. Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), the self-styled orator whose floor speeches often quote the philosophers of ancient Rome and Athens, finally snapped on Oct. 17, 2003, when he gave a floor speech recalling Hans Christian Andersen's story in which "the emperor has no clothes." He closed with an open comparison of President Bush to Nazi propaganda minister Paul Joseph Goebbels. Other stories swirled on the Internet accusing presidential political strategist Karl Rove of having family ties to the Nazis.
so that was how Theresa got her meds..lol
No he's not.
He is a purveyor of lies in the same vein as the nut case who wrote a book saying that Bush One was a reptilian monster from outer space.
He's a political analyst in the same way the other left-wing pinkos are, bottom-feeding carp like Dershoshitz.
Would have preferred skerry of the present or Bush's ancestors of the past? Speaking of skerry of the present, just as refresher, see below:
What You Dont Know About John Kerry
Newsmax. ^ | Jan. 20, 2004 | Chuck Noe
What You Dont Know About John Kerry Chuck Noe, NewsMax.com Tuesday, Jan. 20, 2004 With his win in Iowa, Sen. John Kerry could be on his way to the White House. But most Americans are unaware of the real Kerry. Here are facts and quotations that reveal the character of the new Democrat leader.
Denouncing America with Hanoi Jane: Although Wesley Clark and others have attacked former front-runner Howard Dean as a draft-dodging ski bum, Kerry is far more complex than the simple war hero he portrays himself as. He became a celebrated organizer for one of America's most extreme appeasement groups, Vietnam Veterans Against the War. He consorted with the likes of Hanoi Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark, Lyndon Johnsons radical former attorney general.
He attended a seminar bankrolled by Fonda in Detroit in February 1971. Watching 125 self-proclaimed Vietnam veterans testify at a Howard Johnsons about atrocities allegedly committed by U.S. forces, the man who would be president later said he found the accounts shocking and irrefutable.
Dubbed The Winter Soldier Investigation, the protest attracted minimal media attention, according to the Los Angeles Times, because Fonda insisted it be held in the remote Michigan city rather than the less authentic Washington, D.C.
Still, the event gave Kerry an idea for a protest that was sure to be a media smash, and he immediately set out to organize one of the most confrontational protests of the war.
Operation Dewey Canyon III began on April 18, 1971, when nearly 1,000 Vietnam veterans and people claiming to be veterans gathered on Washingtons Mall for what they called a limited incursion into the country of Congress.
The group staged mock firefights on the steps of the Capitol and Supreme Court and defied U.S. Park Police after the Department of Justice issued an injunction barring it from camping on the Mall.
Those evil American soldiers: Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 23, 1971, Kerry claimed that U.S. soldiers had raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam.
We are not the best: In his testimony, Kerry claimed there was no communist threat and said: In 1970 at West Point Vice President Agnew said some glamorize the criminal misfits of society while our best men die in Asian rice paddies to preserve the freedom which most of those misfits abuse, and this was used as a rallying point for our effort in Vietnam. But for us, as boys in Asia whom the country was supposed to support, his statement is a terrible distortion from which we can only draw a very deep sense of revulsion, and hence the anger of some of the men who are here in Washington today. It is a distortion because we in no way consider ourselves the best men of this country . U.S. Veteran Dispatch noted in 1996: Kerry's testimony, it should be noted, occurred while some of his fellow Vietnam veterans were known by the world to be enduring terrible suffering as prisoners of war in North Vietnamese prisons. Kerry was a supporter of the People's Peace Treaty," a supposed people's declaration to end the war, reportedly drawn up in communist East Germany. It included nine points, all of which were taken from Viet Cong peace proposals at the Paris peace talks as conditions for ending the war.
Throw as I say, not as I do: On that same day he led members of VVAW in a protest during which they threw their medals and ribbons over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol. Kerry later admitted the medals he threw were not his. To this day they hang on the wall of his office.
Communist stooge: The communist Daily World delightedly published photos of him speaking to demonstrators and boasted that the marchers displayed a banner depicting a portrait of Communist Party leader Angela Davis, on record stating, I am dedicated to the overthrow of your system of government and your society, the New American recalled in May 2003. By frequently participating in VVAWs demonstrations, Kerry found himself marching alongside what the Boston Herald Traveler identified as revolutionary Communists. While noting that known Reds had openly organized these events, the December 12, 1971 Herald Traveler reported the presence of an abundance of Vietcong flags, clenched fists raised in the air, and placards plainly bearing legends in support of China, Cuba, the USSR, North Korea and the Hanoi government."
Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry says: As a national leader of VVAW, Kerry campaigned against the effort of the United States to contain the spread of Communism. He used the blood of servicemen still in the field for his own political advancement by claiming that their blood was being shed unnecessarily or in vain.
Under Kerry's leadership, VVAW members mocked the uniform of United States soldiers by wearing tattered fatigues marked with pro-communist graffiti. They dishonored America by marching in demonstrations under the flag of the Viet Cong enemy.
Sen. John McCain revealed that his North Vietnamese captors had used reports of Kerry-led protests to taunt him and his fellow prisoners. Retired General George S. Patton III angrily noted that Kerrys actions had given aid and comfort to the enemy.
In recent years when Kerry has exploited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial for photo opportunities on Veterans Day, some veterans, still outraged by his betrayal, have turned their backs on him.
The book he doesnt want you to see: When Kerry ran for election to the U.S. House of Representative in 1972, he found it necessary to suppress reproduction of the cover picture appearing on his own book, The New Soldier. His political opponent pointed out that it depicted several unkempt youths crudely handling an American flag to mock the famous photo of the U.S. Marines at Iwo Jima, according to Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry. Suddenly, copies of the book became unavailable and even disappeared from libraries. But the Lowell (Mass.) Sun said of the type of person shown on its cover: These people spit on the flag, they burn the flag, they carry the flag upside down, [and] they all but wipe their noses with it in their efforts to show their contempt for everything it still stands for, the New American reported.
Even today it is hard to find this infamous photo and book.
Friendly with the enemy: Kerrys fondness for Vietnams communist dictatorship, one of the most oppressive in the world, continues. As chairman of the Select Senate Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, created in 1991 to investigate reports that U.S. prisoners of war and soldiers designated missing in action were still alive in Vietnam, Kerry badgered the panel into voting that no American servicemen remained in Vietnam.
[N]o one in the United States Senate pushed harder to bury the POW/MIA issue, the last obstacle preventing normalization of relations with Hanoi, than John Forbes Kerry, noted U.S. Veteran Dispatch.
But Kerry's participation in the Committee became controversial in December 1992, reported the nonpartisan Center for Public Integrity, when Hanoi announced that it had awarded Colliers International, a Boston-based real estate company, an exclusive deal to develop its commercial real estate potentially worth billions. Stuart Forbes, the CEO of Colliers, is Kerry's cousin.
The odd coincidence, according to FrontPageMagazine.com, involved a deal worth $905 million.
Jeff Jacoby, the token conservative columnist at the Boston Globe, notes that Kerry continues his apologia for Vietnam's never-ending atrocities. "Far from taking the lead on the Vietnam Human Rights Bill, he has prevented it from coming to a vote. He claims that making an issue of Hanoi's repression would be counterproductive."
Kerry is also a fan of Chinas communist dictatorship. On May 19, 1994, five years after Tiananmen Square, Kerry spoke on the Senate floor against linking China's Most Favored Nation trade status to its human rights record, Slate reported.
Kerry said: China is the strongest military power in Asia. We need China's cooperation. We cannot afford to adopt a cold-war kind of policy that merely excludes and pushes China away.
Limiting China's MFN status would make us a bit player in a production of enormous proportions. We possess no stick, including MFN, which can force China to embrace internationally recognized human rights and freedoms.
More extreme than Hillary and Kucinich: Among the White House wannabes, long-shot Rep. Dennis Kucinich has the reputation of holding the most left-wing congressional voting record. In fact, this honor goes to Kerry. According to American Conservative Union, Kerry has a lifetime rating of 6 percent, compared to 13 for the demolished Rep. Dick Gephardt, 14 for Sen. John Edwards, 15 for Kucinich and 19 for Sen. Joe Lieberman.
Sens. Hillary Clinton and Tom Daschle score 13 percent. Only the likes of Sens. Teddy Kennedy and Barbara Boxer have more left-wing records than Kerry. In contrast, Sen. John Breaux, one of the upper chambers few remaining moderate Democrats, has a 46.
Drive as I say, not as I do: Like Al Gore and other self-described environmentalists, Kerry has a radical agenda that would devastate the U.S. economy in favor of the likes of communist China, yet he enjoys the gas-guzzling modern conveniences that greens denounce. Kerry, a delegate to the environment-destroying Earth Summit in 1992 (where he met his future wife, left-wing activist Teresa Heinz, the multimillionaire widow of GOP Sen. John Heinz), the Kyoto climate talks in 1997 and the Hague Conference of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change in 2000, has attacked President Bush for withdrawing from the anti-U.S. Kyoto Protocol. This treaty, which then-President Bill Clinton had signed, would impose severe restrictions on the United States but not Third World polluters that already enjoy huge trade surpluses with the U.S. However, although Kerry spouts the party line on anti-U.S. ecopolicy, he doesnt like to practice what he preaches. Kerry was humiliated in April 2002 when photographed attending a rally against energy independence and then heading back to his SUV, the symbol of all that is evil to greens.
Bone to pick: Bush-hating conspiracy theorists find it alarming that the president, like his father, was a member of the secretive Skull and Bones society at Yale University. Another alum of this club: John Kerry.
Waffling on Iraq: Kerry has the tough job of wooing Howard Deans anti-war Democrats despite his support of the war in Iraq. His favorite tactic, claiming the president outfoxed him, doesnt hold up to scrutiny. On Meet the Press in late August, Tim Russert played a tape of Kerry addressing the Senate in October 2002 with a hard-line speech declaring Iraq capable of quickly producing weaponizing of biological weapons that could be delivered against the United States itself.
Kerry insisted: That is exactly the point Im making. We were given this information by our intelligence community.
However, as columnist Robert Novak noted, as a senator, Kerry had access to the National Intelligence Estimate that was skeptical of Iraqi capability. Being tricky may no longer be as effective politically as it once was.
No doubt Dean, Lieberman, Clark and other rivals will now use these and other details to do to Kerry what the Democrats did to Dean.
Hint: When the argument posits that the truth doesn't count, there is no argument to rebut. It's like saying that someone hasn't drowned because humans can breate under water...
Oh, Prescott also said that the word going around Heaven that Arafat died and went straight to hell.
By this rationale, the Jews are just as responsible for the rise of Hitler since many wealthy Jews invested heavily in Germany, as well.
So... let me get this straight...
GWB is controlled by powerful figures in the neo-Nazi party
- and -
GWB is controlled by powerful figures in the Jewish community (neo-Cons).
I can't keep my conspiracy theories straight now.
Hey, my dog always seems to understand.
The author makes it clear in the first para that he has no respect for facts.
Then, one could consider this: The MSM hated Dubya so much that they trumped up forged documents and withheld info about Kerry meeting with terrorists, but we're supposed to believe this Nazi story is olid and they've never reported on it. Yeah, sure.
I have to echo Cripplecreek's comment "Why bother?" This is just one more little bit of the crying and teeth gnashing we'll be hearing for the next for years.
Spend your time more wisely.
Invent a new lo-cal cheese snack.