Knocking Off Specter Is A Big Mistake

self | 11.9.04 | JohnRobertson

[John Robertson]

Specter will take Collins, Snowe, Chafee, and McCain with him if he's booted from this chairmanship.

And doesn't that give the majority to the other side?

[Rutles4Ever]

Red State Pro-Lifers Force Removal of Republican Senator

Did it bother you to read, "Red State Pro-Lifer Force Re-Election of Republican President?"

Because that's how the press played the election, anyhow.

Take no prisoners. Who cares what the press thinks? We don't need any weak sisters wringing their hands over Arlen Specter. The GOP is moving forward.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

[sinkspur]

We need a political human sacrifice once in a while to keep everyone else in line

LOL!! The RINOS have more leverage over you then you do over them.

Specter will get his chairmanship, and will have been chastened in the process.

[comebacknewt]

I personally think the threat of Specter is a bit overstated.

Since the GOP now has expanded its majority, it is likely that we will have a two vote margin over the RATs in the judiciary committee. So, Specter alone will not be able to stop a candidate, and his support for our candidates will make it much more difficult for RATs to claim that they are extremists.

[BobCNY]

He can not be trusted and he should be removed now before any potential issues arise.

[John Robertson]

I wasn't just referring to the press...I was just writing their headline. I meant the middle, Democrats who might have voted for W, or at least who didn't hate him like some did. My instincts tell me this would be a pyrrhic victory. See an above reply for a scenario about how he takes repub senators with him.

[Pacothecat]

I agree, he got his got his hand slapped back now it's time to work together. If we let one wing of the party overwhelm others who do not agree we become the Dem's and we loss our now fragile majority.

[inquest]

Think about what? His whole presidency has been continually marked by one sell-out to the Left after another. And he's done nothing to prove that he's committed to nominating constitutionalist judges. His nominations so far constitute no evidence in his favor because he knew they would be filibustered, and never lifted a finger to help them. They were purely symbolic sops to his conservative base.

[nickcarraway]

Once Sen. Specter is the chairmen, there is no leverage. Remember, earlier this year after he narrowly won in the primary thanks to President Bush, he came out a day later and trashed President Bush. Bush has very little chance of getting someone on the Supreme Court as it is. If Specter is the chair, we might as well resign ourselves that the next Democrat president will put 5-7 judges on the court.

[sinkspur]

And doesn't that give the majority to the other side?

Well, Republicans can still win, but they need Dick Cheney to break the tie.

[Rutles4Ever]

Specter will take Collins, Snowe, Chafee, and McCain with him if he's booted from this chairmanship.

And doesn't that give the majority to the other side?

McCain is pro-life. He may be a fence-rider, but he's been consistently pro-life.

Collins, Snowe, and Chafee are currently looking over their shoulders and figuring out ways not to be considered a friend of the Democrats...

[Always Right]

I'm in agreement with you. Specter will take Collins, Snowe, Chafee, and McCain with him if he's booted from this chairmanship.

McCain wants to be a good Repbulican so he can be President. There is a reason McCain was such a good soldier supporting Bush. McCain ain't going nowhere, and I kind of doubt Specter and the others will either. Specter clearly crossed the line with his first comments and is paying the price.

[Pondman88]

Correct-I agree. Keep him, it will make confirmation of Pro Family, Conservative judges far easier.

[nickcarraway]

Alternate headline:

President Bush's Nominee Too Extremist for His Own Party

[John Robertson]

I forgot to include in my original post, No extremists, please. I am all for "constitutionalist" judges, BTW.

[swilhelm73]

f he doublecrosses us, then we go after him hammer and tong

I've been doing some research, though it is not finalized yet, and it appears there is no way to remove a Senator from his chairmenship involuntarily. None. No hammer. No tongs.

Once lame duck Specter gets his chairmenship he becomes untouchable for all practical purposes.

Yes he has promised us after the firestorm started not to bork any more judicial nominations. He has also promised a number of leftwing groups that he will bork conservative nominations.

He's certainly lying to someone. You have a lot of fiath it is not us. Far more then I do.

[gipper81]

How many times should we allow Specter to betray us? And as far as what the liberal media will say, screw them. Disloyalty and betrayal should not be rewarded.

Correct. So, this thread suggests that we should be afraid of this rino because of an anticipated headline in the Washington Post???

[Defiant]

Ever wonder how many times the democrats said that about Zell Miller?

The Dems weren't stupid enough to let Miller chair any committees, when they had a majority. I don't think they even let him sit in on the caucus meetings where they discussed strategy.

[sport]

Count me as one of the Pro Lifers.

I am a two issue voter.

I am anti abortion and a supporter of the Second Amendment.

I vote for or against candidates that that are against abortion or support abortion.

I vote for or against candidates that support the Second Amendment or are against the Second Amendment.

To me the other issues are secondary.

You may feel different.

[boomop1]

If it is a struggle to convince people who you are or aren't something has to give, he should pull himself from the battle. I don't like having a drawn out fight on his liability status, if he is a sincere republican he will avoid this fight and bow out or go to the other side, which is alright with me.