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Knocking Off Specter Is A Big Mistake
self | 11.9.04 | JohnRobertson

Posted on 11/09/2004 1:10:45 PM PST by John Robertson

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To: John Robertson
Yeah, if the leadership want him there then he should be there. The filibuster is what will block good judges, not Specter.

Still... it would be nice to have Specter meet Bork at the Liberty Bell at noon and kiss his rosy red a@@ in front of the whole world.

61 posted on 11/09/2004 1:25:57 PM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice.. NOT Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: John Robertson

Right now Specter is kudzu in a pot. Once you plant it in the ground it will be near impossible to rid yourself of it.


62 posted on 11/09/2004 1:25:57 PM PST by sergeantdave (No parades for you, Kerry)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Collins, Snowe, and Chafee are currently looking over their shoulders and figuring out ways not to be considered a friend of the Democrats...

Wish you were right. Chafee IS a friend of the Dems, and has one of the safest seats in the country. Snowe and Collins are from a state that just went Kerry.


63 posted on 11/09/2004 1:26:03 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: sinkspur
Specter will take Collins, Snowe, Chafee, and McCain with him

True enough. As long as he doesent try to bottle it up in committee, we'll be fine.

64 posted on 11/09/2004 1:26:11 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Taggart_D
I don't get it. I've heard Rush, and I hear what you're saying. I just don't get it. What is there to lose by knocking off Specter? Coming out of the elections, conservatives have momentum....why water it down by not using it? Is the MSM all of a sudden going to start being nice to us because we're "Reasonable" by not giving in to "Extremism?"...Specter is a liberal. Why can't the GOP get a backbone and start taking a stand for once in their life?

Well said...and it bears repeating...
65 posted on 11/09/2004 1:26:22 PM PST by swilhelm73 (I voted for Bush. You're welcome.)
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To: John Robertson

BTW, the press is going to portray us as bigoted Nazis no matter what we do, so why should we bother trying to satisfy them?


66 posted on 11/09/2004 1:26:32 PM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: John Robertson
Saying that Specter has told us he's changed is like saying that Kerry told us he'd changed. Specter hasn't shown us he's changed and there's no reason to think he has.

As for taking a story away from the MSM, do you remember how the President worked with Ted Kennedy on the NCLB Act? Did it provide any benefits to the President? I didn't see any.

Specter has done absolutely nothing to earn a chairmanship from the GOP. He fights us on most important issues. I see nothing to be gained from trusting him, and everything to be gained by showing the political world that the GOP has finally grown a pair.

Shalom.

67 posted on 11/09/2004 1:26:33 PM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: nickcarraway

Bravo.


68 posted on 11/09/2004 1:26:34 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: John Robertson
Red State Pro-Lifers Force Removal of Republican Senator

Hey, heres a clue, the headlines are going to be WAY worse once we start nominating judges. Get used to it.
69 posted on 11/09/2004 1:26:49 PM PST by Daus
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To: sinkspur
LOL!! The RINOS have more leverage over you then you do over them. Specter will get his chairmanship, and will have been chastened in the process.

The RINOs have to be getting the message over this. We may not be able to put up Specter's career's corpse, but we can at least put his bloodied, beaten political career in the stocks for a while in the Senate cloakroom as a reminder.

70 posted on 11/09/2004 1:27:09 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: John Robertson
Red State Pro-Lifers Force Removal of Republican Senator

And the problem with this is...?
I really don't think it's wise that Conservatives first determine how their agenda will play before the MSM before it's implemented.
If that were the case RR would've have never bothered to run.

71 posted on 11/09/2004 1:27:25 PM PST by jla
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To: Nachum; standupfortruth; 2banana
No one has a "right" to a leadership position in the Judiciary Committee. I agree with Borking him. What's good for the goose.....I read that his leadership qualities are lacking. Back Jeff S or John Kyl. Specter claimed that Bork did not have the disposition for the court. The same could be said of Specter for this position. He promised Bush this and that with no follow-through. Let him remain on the committee in his current position. If he can't support the team and He switches to the Dems, he can kiss all kinds of things goodbye. No loss. But he could raise hell as an angry chairman. He cannot be trusted.
72 posted on 11/09/2004 1:27:29 PM PST by HonestConservative (Hey John! Help is on the way! Not.)
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To: ambrose
Besides, if a nominee isn't supported by Specter, the nominee won't pass in the full senate. Period.

The obvious contrary example is Bork.

And don't say "but Bork didn't pass the full Senate." Of course he didn't. But how many RINOs were emboldened by Specter's disgraceful behavior on the committee? How many other Senators were turned by the effort the left ginned up against Bork during the time he was held captive before Specter?

It's not enough to say "yeah, they'll get a vote in the full Senate." The position calls for boldness.

73 posted on 11/09/2004 1:28:10 PM PST by Petronski (Report back to headquarters for debriefing and cocktails.)
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To: John Robertson

CAN SPECTER.

HE THINKS OUR TROOPS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINIAL COURT.

ANYONE WHO TAKES THIS STAND SHOULD NOT, I REPEAT, NOT NOT NOT BE IN ANY POSITION TO INFLUENCE OUR LEGAL SYSTEM IN ANY WAY.

Caps off. Sorry to yell, but...we cannot allow this guy to stay. We need someone to fight for our president and our country.


74 posted on 11/09/2004 1:28:26 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: John Robertson

Chafee, Snowe, McInsane, Jeffords, Specter..get rid of the lot of them while we have the chance!


75 posted on 11/09/2004 1:28:30 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: John Robertson

Why take a chance? We have 4 years to change the courts. We had better not wait or take any chances. It is too important.

Who cares what the press says? We will NEVER win them over no matter what we do. Hey, if we can't convince American Jews to vote Republican you can forget about ever making friends with the press!

We need to stop worrying about winning over our enemies because it is NEVER going to happen ever. We need to worry about getting the things done we think are right and let the chips fall where they may.

Specter has shown his true colors. He has forfeited his right to serve. Dump him fast and let's move on!


76 posted on 11/09/2004 1:28:32 PM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: mrsmith

it would be nice to have Specter meet Bork at the Liberty Bell at noon and kiss his rosy red a@@ in front of the whole world.

I like the idea...but MAN is that a disgusting image.


77 posted on 11/09/2004 1:28:37 PM PST by John Robertson
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To: John Robertson
Until you've been given power to exclude persons from your threads whose opinions you disagree with, you're going to have to deal with the fact that such views will appear. You can ignore them if you like, but that'll only demonstrate that you prefer to stick your head in the sand.

By the way, the FR poll immediately prior to the present one demonstrates that I'm far from extremist for thinking that Bush isn't conservative enough. Indeed, it shows that the extremists around here are the ones who are happy with him.

78 posted on 11/09/2004 1:28:39 PM PST by inquest (Now is the time to remove the leftist influence from the GOP. "Unity" can wait.)
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To: John Robertson

Doing nothing guarantees business as usual.

Gotta take some risks to move forward. No one's going to miss Spectre.

The above mentioned Senators are dead-center Republicans in liberal states. I guarantee you they will not switch parties if they are stuck running against bona fide liberals in the same Democratic primaries...


79 posted on 11/09/2004 1:29:18 PM PST by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: John Robertson

"Knocking Off Specter Is A Big Mistake---agree...but smacking him around a bit wouldn't hurt.


80 posted on 11/09/2004 1:30:25 PM PST by Ginifer
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