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Artillerymen Clear Path for the Infantry
The Washington Post ^
| November 11, 2004
| Jackie Spinner
Posted on 11/11/2004 6:10:18 PM PST by neverdem
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:10:19 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: Cannoneer No. 4; Darksheare
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:11:56 PM PST
by
neverdem
(Xin loi min oi)
To: neverdem; Ragtime Cowgirl; 1stFreedom; Cannoneer No. 4; Redleg Duke; SAMWolf; archy; ...
FAMPL ping.
USHA, Artillery!
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:13:50 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(Personality shattered and horribly twisted, the humor flows out through the cracks.)
To: neverdem
BOOM!
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:14:16 PM PST
by
Maigrey
(Your job is to arrest the killers but if you kill them, then so be it. - Minister Allawi)
To: neverdem
Pretty cool. Precision Guided Munitions - fire and forget. They correct in mid-flight. They do not miss. They are something on the order of like 100 times less expensive than a missile, easier to store and transport, there's no pilot at risk, and with UAV's to guide the gunners, we can rain hell down on them all day and night long, even in bad weather.
The bad guys best hope is for blind Marine and Army Recon guys.
To: neverdem
Great article. Artillery has made incredible advances in the last few years. There is no longer a requirement for spotting rounds, and their rate of fire is outstanding. I've flown close air support missions for almost 15 years, and now have to admit that artillery may be a better option in a lot of close air support scenarios. Between unmanned combat air vehicles and GPS guided artillery shells, I'm starting to feel a little redundant. But dammit, as long as we've got red blooded all American boys on the line, there is no such thing as too many ways to kill the enemy.
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:24:08 PM PST
by
Rokke
To: Darksheare
Hearing about all this brings up some sweet memories...if I close my eyes I can still smell those whitebags cooking off. OOOOOOOOSHAAAAA
My ears are still ringing.
To: neverdem
A 155 is pretty strong medicine for a little old pickup truck. I wouldn't want to be standing within a couple of hundred meters from one of those babies when they explode.
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:24:38 PM PST
by
AF68
To: I got the rope
Fire mission!
Yeah, that brings back that smell and the memories.
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:30:14 PM PST
by
Darksheare
(Personality shattered and horribly twisted, the humor flows out through the cracks.)
To: Steel and Fire and Stone
"They correct in mid-flight"
I've been trying to figure out what they mean by precision artillery. Do you have a link to this type of munition. The best I can find is the copperhead, which is a laser guided shell. There is something in the works, due out in 2 years which has a GPS system, but that is meant only for the rocket assisted long range round.
My impression (and I am not an artillery guy) is that the precision came from very precise targetting data (LRAS) and very precise location of the guns.
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:35:56 PM PST
by
ProudVet77
(02NOV04 - America to Kerry "Your fired!")
To: neverdem
Blakey said an Army recruiter persuaded him to be an artilleryman by describing the Paladin. "He told me it was the biggest gun in the military, and I said, 'I'll take it,' " he recalled. This made me laugh for some reason.
To: neverdem
A few miles away, soldiers in the 1st Infantry Division's 1st Platoon, Alpha Battery trained their M109A6 Paladin, a self-propelled 155mm howitzer, on the truck.I can remember when they were M109-A-nuthin' howitzers. Where did the time go? [sniff]
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:49:03 PM PST
by
300winmag
(FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
To: neverdem
"Every few stops, the driver threw dirt on the roof of the cab..."
Soon out boys will be throwing dirt on the driver.
To: ProudVet77
"...My impression (and I am not an artillery guy) is that the precision came from very precise targetting data (LRAS) and very precise location of the guns."
You are correct. I not up on all the latest classifed developments but palladins get great accuracy from simple trajectory shells. It is no longer necessary to lay them in with "candy canes" (but it still is with 105s and mortars).
T
he fire and forget munitions are not for the 155. Copperheads require a COLT (Combat Observation Lasing Team) to be guided to the target. Copperheads failure rate has proven too high and it was developed for tanks and not common targets.
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:56:17 PM PST
by
Monterrosa-24
(Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
To: neverdem
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posted on
11/11/2004 6:57:30 PM PST
by
ALOHA RONNIE
("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
To: I got the rope
My ears have been ringing for 35 years. A1/92FA '67-'69
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posted on
11/11/2004 7:11:02 PM PST
by
Chuckster
(Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
To: Monterrosa-24; ProudVet77
I don't have anything handy to document this, and I thought I picked it up on one of the BLOGs (Chester, maybe Belmontclub). From what I read, I was under the impression that they do have GPS guilded artillery deployed in Falluja, and that this accuracy was a major factor in shaping the battlefield.
I read that laser guided munitions were not due out until 2006, but as with the 30,000 bunker busting MOAB, I take all those dated with a grain of salt. We're at war, and if the Pentagon tosses $cash$ at the contractor, and tells him "ASAP", then they WILL beat their schedule estimate.
That's why I didn't question it but said something like "..way cool!" when I read about the accuracy of the GPS guided munitions it.
SFS
To: neverdem; All
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posted on
11/11/2004 7:39:58 PM PST
by
x1stcav
To: I got the rope
"T34, This is Y56. Fire Mission, Over" "Y56, T34...." (smug artillery guys using minimal radio protocol...)
"T34, Y56. Grid: XX xxxx -break- xxxx. White Pickup in th' open"
"Roger.... Shot!" (Smug artillery guys. I love those guys....)
"Splash.... That got it." I loved being an FO....
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posted on
11/11/2004 7:48:31 PM PST
by
Cogadh na Sith
(--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
To: neverdem
Cannoncockers have steel balls!
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posted on
11/11/2004 7:57:45 PM PST
by
Ben Chad
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