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Uncut Video Of Fallujah Marine Incident In Question
Northeast Intelligence Network
| 11/16/04
Posted on 11/16/2004 11:34:33 AM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
The guy who knows the internationally flippin' recognized gesture for SURRENDER seems to have lived thru this lil' "encounter".
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:54:37 AM PST
by
bikepacker67
("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
To: finnman69
Q: What do you call a Marine killing an injured Iraqi terrorist?
A: A start
I dare the left to make a deal of this. If they thought they lost their a$$ last election the backlash of jumping on this Marine would haunt them for years
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:54:37 AM PST
by
Dr Snide
(vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
To: finnman69
Good job finding this.
It didn't change my mind. The guy did what his combat-honed instincts told him to. That's what combat is about.
The Monday morning quarterbacks can pound sand.
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:55:12 AM PST
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: finnman69
I saw the uncut video yesterday and confirm what you posted. IIRC, the enemy terrorist (let's call them what they are - soldier is way too dignified for these bast@#ds)who was shot was lying underneath the window on the right side of the frame. The Marine doesnot approach too close and he calls out to his comrades that he (the terrorist)is faking and that he can see him breathing. Then he shoots. Once, IIRC.
But the video clip that is playing today, the scene shifts to the center of the room and the the Marine is directly over the supposed victim (muzzle about a foot from his head) near some sort of support post. (Was this the surrendering man who was NOT shot?) There is just the "he's faking" comment by the Marine and then multiple reports of the rifle.
Has this video been doctored? It would be pretty easy to lift the audio from the actual shooting and slide it to the images of surrendering terrorist to make it appear as if the Marine shot a person who was clearly surrendering. There isn't alot of detail in the footage other than gross shapes so you have to impute everything from the audio track.
If it was doctored, by whom? The reporter? Or do we have another "Memogate," with some left wing MSM producer/editor "enhancing" the news value of the images.
God help MSM if this video has been doctored.
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:57:23 AM PST
by
Captain Rhino
("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
To: finnman69
The Marine was completely justified. As he said, the terrorist was, "fu**ing faking that he's dead." He could have been faking his death in order to sneak attack moments later, or he could have had explosives strapped to him meant for whoever comes to pick up his body. Remember, they believe that killing "infidels" gets them into heaven. It's also worth noting that the other terrorist in the clip wasn't "fu**ing faking that he's dead" and was spared.
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:57:35 AM PST
by
Jaysun
(Wal-Mart is wonderful.)
To: finnman69
Our Soldiers don't need to worry about how things look.
I've confidence this is justified and there are measures in place for those who 'go off' if that's the case. Afterall, they take care of each other. That's good enough for me.
God Bless Our Soldiers.
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:59:15 AM PST
by
Treasa
To: finnman69
There is a cut in this version, at :43 seconds.
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:59:21 AM PST
by
Petronski
(Okay, so today I *am* cranky.)
To: finnman69
I cant even tell what the hell is going on...someone please care to detail it.
I see nobody shooting anyone here.
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posted on
11/16/2004 11:59:21 AM PST
by
smith288
(I have posted over 10,000 times. The more I post, the more intelligent you become!)
To: Nightshift
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:00:28 PM PST
by
tutstar
( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
To: finnman69
The wounded terrorist was not a prisoner, as some articles have reported. The marines were still fighting to control the area and the terrorist had not surrendered.
There is real mischief at work in the media spin on this incident.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:01:13 PM PST
by
Ken H
To: bikepacker67
4 NYPD officers were acquitted of homicide and reckless endangerment for shooting Amadou Diallo 41 times in the Bronx during peace time when he reached for a wallet.
This Marine fired one shot at a man in a war zone where terrorists booby trap bodies and had been playing dead.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:02:18 PM PST
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
To: finnman69
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:02:32 PM PST
by
Lurker
(As a matter of fact I do serve Satan. But my duties are largely ceremonial.)
To: Petronski
There is a cut in this version, at :43 seconds.
Right. It then picks up at the same window above the terrorist that was just shot.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:03:36 PM PST
by
Jaysun
(Wal-Mart is wonderful.)
To: Petronski
Also a cut at 16 or 17 seconds where they enter the building. The camera man says, "These are the wounded that they never picked up."
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:06:10 PM PST
by
Jaysun
(Wal-Mart is wonderful.)
To: smith288
The Cameraman was focusing on a shot of a pile of "assumed" dead terrorists. You hear in the background the Marines "He F'ing Faking it, he's faking", Anther Marine says "Yah, He's Breathing". The camera pans up just as the Marine puts a burst into the dirt muncher. You definitely see the shooting.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:07:04 PM PST
by
Dead Dog
To: mlbford2
Agreed. No reason we should act according to the Geneva Conventions...I don't care what happens to any Americans taken prisoner! </sarc>
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:08:08 PM PST
by
Gondring
(They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
To: finnman69
To: Gondring
``No reason we should act according to the Geneva Conventions...I don't care what happens to any Americans taken prisoner! </sarc>``
If we ever go to war with France or England I see your point. We already know what ME countries do to our soldiers caught as prisonsers. They torture and execute them.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:11:57 PM PST
by
mlbford2
("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
To: Gondring
So...we should have cut off his head? Is that what you are saying?
Did some terrorist group become a signatory of the geneva accords when I wasn't looking?
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:14:52 PM PST
by
Durus
To: finnman69
I think our military is handling this just right.
1. Pull the Marine in question out of the battle pending investigation. (After all, this guy was reported to have been injured yesterday, and is wound pretty tight right now. Give him some time off to decompress.)
2. Fully investigate the incident. (Again, this is as much a courtesy to our guy -- if the shooting was justified -- as to the dead combatant -- if it was not. If it was justified, our guy needs to get exonerated. If not, he needs to be punished.)
3. Take appropriate disciplinary action. (Based on what I have heard, this seems to fall within the scope of a legal kill. So, appropriate disciplinary action is publicizing that finding and returning the kid to his unit.)
We need to let the military do its thing in this one. My bet is that they will be fairer than either the press or a civilian court.
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posted on
11/16/2004 12:15:59 PM PST
by
No Truce With Kings
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