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Plane crashes on Beltway 8, all lanes closed (Gulfstream down near Houston highway)
local 2 broadcasting ^ | 11/21/05 | n/a

Posted on 11/22/2004 6:31:19 AM PST by Mamzelle

Gulfstream clips pole at toll booth--hits down close to major freeway


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 007; dallas; gulfstream; hobby; houston; monicaonbill; newmexico; nov22; planecrash; privatejet; smelltest; ufo
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To: TexasCajun
They showed a bent light pole on Channel 2. :-) The electic transmission lines are on the South side of the Beltway so the pole could have been hit without touching the tranmission lines. The glide path was from the North.
61 posted on 11/22/2004 8:36:10 AM PST by El Gran Salseron (My wife just won the "Inmate of the Month" Award! :-))
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To: Mamzelle

"I'm curious--assuming that this is a charter flight, with few passengers in a craft often used for charters..."

Likely a repositioning flight were they had a minimum crew showing up to pick up passengers for the money leg of the flight.


62 posted on 11/22/2004 8:38:58 AM PST by Amish with an attitude
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To: Slicksadick

Dang! I used to own half of an industrial inspection business a couple of blocks off of Wayside just north of there. Prayers to the families of those who were lost.


63 posted on 11/22/2004 8:40:29 AM PST by fella
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To: MindBender26

"Does anyone have the N number of the A/C? I can get owners from that"

From post #2:

Jet Place Incorporated of Tulsa, Okla., is the registered owner of the Gulfstream G-1159-A.


64 posted on 11/22/2004 8:42:45 AM PST by Amish with an attitude
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To: pabianice
Let me guess... the crash site is on the localizer of the approach but way below the glide slope...

I don't know about it being on localizer, but I can confirm (from several thousand miles away) that the crash site is well below the glide slope :-)

65 posted on 11/22/2004 8:45:23 AM PST by Gil4
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To: pabianice

That would be an astute observation...


66 posted on 11/22/2004 8:49:35 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: ProudVet77

Both.


67 posted on 11/22/2004 8:50:04 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: snopercod

Thanks for the ping. I love all the NTSB types on here already assigning blame from their keyboards thousands of mile (most likey) away. Sheesh!


68 posted on 11/22/2004 9:46:06 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: ProudVet77

It's Bush's fault.

thag


69 posted on 11/22/2004 10:15:16 AM PST by thag (Run Hillary Run!)
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To: Mamzelle

There's one available in Houston now for a lot less....

thag


70 posted on 11/22/2004 10:16:18 AM PST by thag (Run Hillary Run!)
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To: Mamzelle

Drudge is saying this plane was going to pick up GHWBush and transport him.


71 posted on 11/22/2004 10:25:03 AM PST by dawn53
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To: dawn53

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/112204_local_planecrash.html

link to the info about plane supposedly there to pick up GHWBush and transport him to Ecuador.


72 posted on 11/22/2004 10:27:36 AM PST by dawn53
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To: Textide

EISEN is 5.8 miles from the localizer, the news report said that the plane crashed a mile and a half from the airport. Did the press get it wrong or is that freeway that far south of Hobby? A mile and a half from the airport puts the plane at the missed approach point.

}:-)4


73 posted on 11/22/2004 10:28:30 AM PST by Moose4 (I'm not white trash. I'm Caucasian recyclables.)
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To: dawn53
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory2/2912983

Plane that crashed was on its way to pick up former President Bush

A small passenger plane that crashed along Beltway 8 this morning, killing all three on board, was on its way to pick up former President Bush as its passenger, his office said.

The plane was about to land at Hobby Airport when it crashed between Wayside and Cullen, raining down debris on drivers and closing the tollway in both directions.

The plane was about 1-1/2 miles from Hobby's Runway 4 when it clipped a light pole in the fog just past the Wayside exit's toll booth, then plunged into a field north of the beltway. Debris flung from the plane damaged at least three cars on the tollway, narrowly missing those inside the cars and apparently causing no injuries.

Investigators said the aircraft was a private Gulfstream jet capable of carrying about a dozen passengers, but it was believed to be carrying only a flight attendant and two pilots traveling from Dallas Love Field to Hobby to pick up passengers.

Firefighters responding to the 6:19 a.m. call recovered three bodies.

"We're pretty confident that's all we're going to find," said Houston Fire Department District Chief Jack Williams.

Firefighters extinguished the fire that was burning in the field and the debris is cooling, but thunderstorms are hampering work at the site, where investigators from the Federal Aviation Administration are focusing on an engine lying about 100 yards beyond the fuselage.

Plane parts and bodies can't be moved until investigators from the National Transportation Safety Board arrive. Houston Police Sgt. David Crain said both officers and FAA investigators have interviewed witnesses on the tollway -- whom he described as "traumatized" -- but they must still be interviewed by NTSB investigators before talking to reporters.

A line of debris stretches a quarter of a mile from the field back to the tollway light pole, which was snapped in half by the plane. The top half of the pole could be seen dangling from the part of the pole left standing. One of the plane's wings lies nearby.

Police closed the heavily traveled beltway, also known as the Sam Houston Tollway, in both directions, along with its access roads. Authorities expect it to remain closed for most of the day until NTSB investigators have a chance to examine the debris.

A pickup that ran over debris ended up only with flat tires, but other motorists had closer calls. One piece of debris shattered the windshield of a car, and another piece smashed through the passenger side window of van, barely missing the passenger. The van was carrying a family to Hobby Airport, where they had hoped to pick up a flight to New York to visit a sick relative. After they missed their Hobby flight, tollway authorities gave them a ride to Bush Intercontinental Airport to catch another plane.

Hobby Airport reported no flight disruptions after the crash this morning, although severe weather in the Houston area may yet cause flight delays.

At the time of the crash, fog blanketed the Houston area and visibility was "less than ideal," said Roger Smith, a spokesman for the Houston Airport System. Nonetheless, airplanes were taking off and landing normally, he said.

The plane that crashed had been in communication with air-traffic controllers at Hobby's tower, he said. Controllers received no distress call from the pilot, but when they didn't hear from him on schedule about a minute before his landing time, they issued an alert.

The FAA reported that the plane's registered owner is Jet Place of Tulsa, Okla. The downed flight's crew was made up of two male pilots and a female flight attendant, but it's unknown who the intended passengers were or where the jet was headed afterward.

A firefighter dragging a hose through the mud at the crash site pulled some chest muscles and had to be taken by ambulance to the hospital.

74 posted on 11/22/2004 10:30:20 AM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: pabianice

"The crash site is on the localizer of the approach but way below the glide slope..."

localizer? glide slope?

You arent from around here are ya?


75 posted on 11/22/2004 10:33:23 AM PST by treeclimber ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." GWB 2001)
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To: Tarpaulin

I just read over on DU that this plane was on the way to pick up former Pres. Bush. Is that true? I know they're crazy over there, but they do often, though not always, use legitimate news sources.


76 posted on 11/22/2004 10:35:47 AM PST by twigs
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To: MindBender26

N85VT


77 posted on 11/22/2004 10:35:53 AM PST by fastattacksailor (This tagline brought to you by Izzy Dunne's tagline virus!)
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To: MindBender26

I get the NTSB Emails when an A/C has a problem:



NTSB ADVISORY



National Transportation Safety Board
Washington, DC 20594

November 22, 2004



NTSB LAUNCHES TEAM TO INVESTIGATE GULFSTREAM PLANE CRASH IN
TEXAS




The National Transportation Safety Board has launched a Go-
Team to investigate the crash of a Gulfstream near the Hobby
Airport in Houston, Texas.

About 6:15 a.m. CST, today a G-II, (N85VT) with 3 persons
aboard, reportedly clipped a light pole before crashing in a
nearby field. All on board were fatally injured.

Frank Hilldrup is the Investigator-in-Charge of the NTSB
team of 10. NTSB Vice Chairman Mark Rosenker will accompany
the team and serve as principal spokesperson for the on-
scene investigation. Lauren Peduzzi is the NTSB press
officer traveling with the team.

Information regarding the investigation will be released
from the accident scene in Houston, Texas.

NTSB on-scene Media Contact: Lauren Peduzzi, (202) 557-1350






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National Transportation Safety Board.

You may unsubscribe at any time at
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78 posted on 11/22/2004 10:37:54 AM PST by fastattacksailor (This tagline brought to you by Izzy Dunne's tagline virus!)
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To: twigs

KHOU 11 in houston is reporting that Bush 41 was to board this plane, they have the FBI involved also.

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou041122_jt_planecrash.7feae5cb.html


79 posted on 11/22/2004 10:38:11 AM PST by Big Otto
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To: dawn53
Thread on Drudge's report.
80 posted on 11/22/2004 10:39:16 AM PST by Quilla
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