The Separation of Church and State Myth:Why God MUST Be Acknowledged.

B. M. C.

[Arkansas Boy]

The Separation of Church and State Myth: Why God MUST be acknowledged.

How many of you have heard the term Separation of Church and State is in the Constitution? How many of you know that the Constitution does not even contain that phase? I would like to address a very important issue– an issue upon which the future of our nation rests: The issue is whether or not our government will acknowledge God.

The First Amendment is the main defense of those who wish to keep God out of our law and government. These folks say that the First Amendment is supposed to erect a barrier of “Separation between Church and State”. This is simply not true. The fact is, the phrase “Separation of Church and State” is not found in the First Amendment, or anywhere in the Constitution. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution simply states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. . . (it goes on to discuss freedom of the press, etc.)

Known as the “Establishment Clause”, this amendment was meant to protect religious freedom by giving the churches protection from the government, not the government protection from the churches. Let me explain: When America’s forefathers fled England, they were seeking freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. They did not want the government to meddle with Christendom and establish a "National Church" which would impair other denominations, as King James had done by establishing the Church of England.

Our founding documents, such as the Declaration of Independence, acknowledge the founders’ dependence upon God. The Declaration alone refers to the Sovereign Creator four times as “God”, “Creator”, “The Supreme Judge of the World”, and “Divine Providence”.

This nation was explicitly founded upon Christian principles, upon the God of the Holy Bible, but not upon one particular Christian denomination. This is further evidenced in the writings of our forefathers! Patrick Henry, the great revolutionary leader, said it best:

It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.

While other people may be free to practice Buddhism, Hinduism, or Humanism on our soil, we are STILL a nation governed by Biblical principles. Our laws were not established on some trivial ideals, but on the solid and unchanging Word of God. The rally cry of the Revolutionary War was “No King but King Jesus!” It is on this very foundation that America was born, and it is upon this very foundation that the future of America rests.

Some people think “There’s no place for God in government”. What they don’t realize is that when God is cut out, something else must be put in. Removing God and His principles from government never results in neutrality, but always results in the government stepping in and “playing god”. When God is rejected, the government is not held to any absolute. They become the highest authority. Right and wrong becomes whatever the government says it is. When God is not in the picture our liberties are no longer recognized as “God-given”, but rather as “State-given”. The people’s unalienable rights and the people’s authority over their government is no longer recognized by the public servants, because there is no recognized authority higher than themselves. When the government does not acknowledge God as Sovereign, the government becomes a law unto itself. This is called tyranny, and this is what our forefathers tenaciously fought against.

For years now, God has been generally cut out of education, society, and government. Tolerance has become the rallying cry! But, as one wise gentleman once said, “The only thing tolerance tolerates is tolerance.” Folks, tolerance only tolerates God and the Bible when they are kept in a closet! God’s principles have been hushed in public circles. Why are we surprised when the phrase “one nation, under God” is attacked in the Pledge of Allegiance? God is being taken out of our legal system, and the Ten Commandments are being stripped from public view because they offend. Why, then, should we be surprised when the murder of millions of innocent babies is called “legal” by our courts? Why, now, are we shocked when the sacred and God-given institution of marriage is assaulted and perverted? Will we continue to sit quietly by, and watch our State and nation rot into moral perversion like Sodom and Gomorrah? We have rejected God Almighty, the Author of Liberty. Are we surprised, then, to see that our liberties are being severed, and that we are being put, shackle by shackle, under the bonds of slavery? The Bible says, “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” “God bless America” I hear folks cry! But, can we expect the blessing of the very God we reject? The Bible says, “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.”

Ladies and gentlemen, we are in a crisis. However, the blame does not rest only in Washington or with our public officials. The blame rests on us. The condition of our government reflects the condition of our people.

In the Bible, God says, “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” (2 Chronicles 7:14).

My friends, we must repent for OUR rebellion against God. This is the only way God’s blessing can be restored to our land.

Then may we earnestly demand, through constitutional means, that our State and national governments return to the God who birthed them! The decision is ours. God save us, and God Save America.

[26lemoncharlie]

This statement "Seperation of church from atate" is made in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson, it does not exist any part of the Declaratikon of Independence or the Constitution itself, nor does it appear in any law or legislation. Because it appears in a letter, written by Thos. Jefferson with his intentions not to mention God because he did not want anyone to insinuate that any Religion would be made a religion supported by the state.

This letter is a letter, it is not a piece of legislation, it has not been officially made a law of the US. Therefore the so called Wall between the church and the state does not exist, infact the basic belief in GOD surely does exist within the Constitution.

What is no allowed is the government to support any particular practice, manner, or procedures of worshiping God. The Basic Christian beliefs and doctrines were accepted abd used as a guidline to establish the Basic Laws of the Federal Government. These Federal Laws are derived or taken from the LAWS OF GOD in the Bible.

It doesn't matter how Geo. Washington felt, or Adams felt or how anyone else felt about different subjects. What does matter is what has been written and agreed upon by these Founding Fathers and what they placed into the Constitution and made LAW.

For those of you who are trying to twist this into anything else your not going to, because first of all -- you can't. Second you will not twist these laws into anything else except what they mean because -- There are those of us who live in this land and will protect our unalienable rights from people like you, we will not allow you to do it.

[gidget7]

Well said, even though many discoveries offering proof have been made in recent years. Discoveries for which there is no other possible explanation. I too, personally have experienced Devinne intervention in my own life, again no other explanation possible. The previous post is bogus. The title article is excellent, true, and factual.

[retyered]

Patrick Henry
Address:http://www.geocities.com/peterroberts.geo/Relig-Politics/PHenry.html



Misquotations:

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!" --


This quotation has not been found anywhere in Henry's recorded writings or speeches, as has been acknowledged by David Barton.

[gidget7]

God Bless You!! Keep saying it, as the rst of us will, and never ever relent!

[SedVictaCatoni]

He referred to the Revelation of St. John as "the ravings of a maniac"

I've got to give Jefferson this one.

[Always Right]

Congress shall make no law respecting....

They made a perfect Constitution only to get screwed up by the courts. The Constitution only forbids the LEGISLATIVE branch from MAKING LAWS. If the Executive Branch wants to put a Nativity scene on the court house lawn it is perfectly Constitutional since it is not the Legislative Branch and it is not a Law. It is absurd that such a clearly written amendment is being applied to students and teachers to shut them up on their religious beliefs. Out court system has lost its mind.

[KingNo155]

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[conservative_crusader]

I cannot agree with what you say. You may laugh at me and say that I am blind to those things that you label fact; however bear with me. It is my personal belief that those who promote that our founders were not Christian have an agenda, a set of goals, that is threatened by the very existence of of some supreme being who determines that which is right and wrong. Therefore, because these people wish to prove that the founders were not Christian, adds to the possibility that their research is biased. Not only that, but to attempt to prove something that was not recorded in its entirety also lends a certain shady element to the motives of these characters.

It is my contention, that even if the more famous of the founders were not Christians, that those who were not the more legendary were in fact Christians.

Even if you were to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt, you must concede that the point that America was established so that the people would have the freedom *of* religion, not that the government should have freedom *from* religion.

Also you must as well concede the point that even if at the dates that your "deists and unitarians" were quoted as saying things that would seem to indicate that they are "deists and unitarians," that your examples are not exempt from the passage of time. Therefore even if at one point the founders were in fact not Christian, they may have converted at some other point in time.

Finally, even if your founders which are painted just as these researchers want them to be, were "Unitarians and Deists," those people that they represented were Christians, and as representatives of the public, it was their duty to represent to the best of their ability those that they represent. This is the point of a "representative government."

[26lemoncharlie]

Impeachment and charges of preventing the citizens of their right to free speech and religion. It's time to reverse the "LAWS" that the LIBERALS have managed to BASTARDIZE" to fit their bogus interpretations. They wanted to leave, why aren't they !!! They need to go to rehab!!! or Immigrate!

[26lemoncharlie]

For Clarification:


The Proof is within your own heart, soul and mind. If you believe that there is a god, then you need no proof. If you need proof, then you should seek out the lord, for he is within you, then you will be the proof.

[KingNo155]

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[DaveTesla]

Good article.
You are so right.
This is what happens when the state replaces GOD.


Abortion in Russia: No Big Deal. Abortions outnumbering live births nearly 2 to 1.

[MikeD]

FWIW, the Texas Constitution does not allow a religious test for anyone to hold public office, aside from confessing belief in a Supreme Being. Technically, atheists and agnostics may be barred from holding public office in Texas.

[bperiwinkle7]

the power of government is to punish. the founders wanted to ensure that no one would be punished by the government for religious reasons, or for holding the 'wrong' religious views.
however, in this backward day, those who want religion separated from government, actually all civil life, END UP PUNISHING CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HOLD THE CORRECT RELIGIOUS VIEWS (atheistic, materialistic, humanism).............liars all, who can not know the truth, because the god of this world has blinded them unless they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and be converted............i'm on a roll.....

[Sonar5]

bump for later

[k2blader]

Very well written and well worth reading.

Welcome to FR. :-)

[farmfriend]

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[wideminded]

On "George Washington's Prayer Journal":

"Doubts about this book surfaced after the manuscript was examined in the early 20th century. The prayer book is not in Washington's handwriting, according to Worthington C. Ford, chief of the Manuscript Division of the Library of Congress (1902 -1909).

Rupert Hughes, who published three volumes on Washington, compared facsimiles of the prayer journal to known samples of Washington's handwriting from the same time the journal was composed. No match. Correspondent W.A. Croffutt traced some of the prayers to a much older prayer book, meaning that Washington was not the author of those prayers. "

- source

[helmetmaker]

Thank you. And well put. Yes, our Founders -- or at least the major players -- were Deists. The "God" they spoke of is not the Christian God. Had they wanted to establish a Christian nation, there were enough Christians running around that there would have been no lack of help in writing the Constitution. But they were also wise and gentle men. They realized that the government cannot be the sole source of morality, for then the people would turn to the government to solve every petty problem. (Much like today.) But it is evident that any metaphysical system can support any political system. What is important is just that there be a metaphysical system to take up the moral slack that the government cannot be allowed to have. To say that our government is Christian (or any religion) is wrong. Let men be Christian or Jew or any other religion. Let government remain neutral so that it intrudes the least on its people.

[Carry_Okie]

If your intent is to reach those who need pursuading, there are better ways to make the obvious need for God given rights unescapable to even a hardened liberal. Unalienable rights, as endowed by a Creator, are so important because government has no legitimate authority or power to violate those rights if they are endowed by a higher authority. It is a concept so important that, if there wasn't a Creator, we'd be best off maintaining whatever pretense necessary that there was.

To make that case to a secularist, one need not cite the Bible. Citations to logic and the examples of history alone are both sufficient and more effective.