Posted on 11/29/2004 9:00:30 AM PST by TERMINATTOR
"The Boston Strangler", a smooth-talking sadist who savagely murdered thirteen women during an eighteen-month reign of sheer terror.
Andrei Chikatilo, Soviet cops finally nabbed him in 1990. He was charged with fifty-three murders, though the true total may have been much higher.
Richard Ramirez, --"The Night Stalker" He was convicted of thirteen murders and sentenced to death. According to his own estimate, Richie was responsible for even more killing than he was credited for. "I've killed twenty men, man", he told a fellow inmate.
Jane Toppan, She was eventually nabbed in Amherst, NH, October, 1901, but not before she managed to kill her own foster sister. She finally confessed to poisoning not only the Davis clan, but eleven other victims as well. Later, she would tell her lawyer that the true total was thirty-one.
Get the picture about "blaming" guns for atrocities...
You mean a gun killed the hunters. I thought it was a crazed SUV.
The SKS is NOT particularly high powered - it is about the same as a 30-30 (a common deer rifle).
NO evidence that the single weapon carried or used by the victims was not a semiautomatic, as well. Most folks today get one by default.
Nor any proof that the shooter could not have done the same in the same circumstances (deerstand, unarmed targets) with a bolt action. History is full of similar feats, against armed targets.
You mean a gun killed the hunters. I thought it was a crazed SUV.
This dirtbag could have done the same thing with a semi-automatic shotgun - or a pump even. Some will hold up to seven shells and a decent shot can spit those out just about as quickly as with a rifle -- and with a shotgun, you don't need to be nearly as accurate!
The only thing blowing up here is the writer's credibility (if he had any to start with).
One other thing that is never mentioned when the issue of Semi-autos and hunting comes up is that most (if not all) states here in the US prescribe a 5-round magazine limit in a hunting rifle. If our friend here had larger magazines, not only was he a murderer, but he *gasp* violated state game regulations!
Of the several reports I've read on the Internet and the newspaper, this is the first I've heard that there was only one firearm to defend against the guy with the SKS.
Idiot alert.
Point 2A:
And, if the hunters had been armed, it still is problimatical how it would turn out, as beeing experienced at HUNTING usage is no guarantee one is prepped and trained for self defensive firearms usage.
It seems all were shot either standing, sitting on an ATV, or running away. In any case, all were presenting good targets. NOT a criticism of the victims, just an observation of circumstances.
As to the twit's dreaded "high powered semi-auto", for the first six AIMED rounds, my much higher powered, short-throw lever action is just as quick (and more immediately deadly) as a civilian semi. I do take longer to reload.
Wonder why they haven't reported that the one (1), only one "armed" hunter who went to the aid of the others, who left their firearms in their deer camp ,was carrying a remington 7400 semi-auto ?
Just doesn't fit their agenda I guess......
Repeal the 5 round mag "limit" for hunters. Repeal the no loaded guns in vehicles and ATV's. Those who came to render assistance on ATV's, may have been unarmed due to "regs" against having a loaded weapon in/on a vehicle. Repeal the 30,000 other unconstitutional infringements of the Second Amendment. An armed society is a polite society.
The founding fathers gave us the formula for preserving freedom AND security - the Second Amendment.
He was? Didn't know that.
There are so called "laws" against carrying loaded firearms in or on a vehicle. This stupid and illegal legislation may be one reason that those on ATV's, responding to the call for help, were unarmed.
Myth Two: When people are well armed and trained to use their weapons, they can protect themselves against gun violence.
Vang in his own statement supports "myth two":
Vang stated that Vang observed 3 other subjects coming on an ATV. Vang stated that Vang then turned his reversible coat from orange to camo. Vang stated that he also reloaded his magazine with 5 or 6 bullets. Vang stated that Vang did not shoot at these men because they had guns with them.
Maybe the hunters fired upon by the suspect were drunk. I've heard tell some folks like to go hunting not for the sport but for the opportunity to get away from the old lady and screaming kids and tie one on. Mixing hooch with guns is about the most stupid thing you can do. Perhaps Vang's attack was preemptive if he sensed that these round eyes were armed and wasted.
You have no evidence that they were wasted and neither did Vang.
And only one of the round eyes was even armed.
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