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The Sleeping World Is Awakening to the Dangers of Islam
GOPUSA ^ | November 29, 2004 | Barbara Stock

Posted on 11/29/2004 12:11:54 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This past week, I have received many responses from Muslims concerning my two most recent columns: ''Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands'' and ''Here Comes the Arab/Muslim Outrage.''

In one breath, some of the writers would call themselves ''intellectuals'' and then accuse me of being a Jew when I put tough questions to them that they could not answer. They maintained that as an American, I just was not intelligent enough to understand Islam. The mistake these ''intellectuals'' made is believing that I have any intention of ''understanding'' Islam.

It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.

If Bin Laden has done one good thing in his wretched life, it was to poke a stick in the eye of the world by bringing his radical beliefs forward and urging his followers to commit violent acts. It has taken some time for people to begin taking a look at Muslims in their own areas, but it is happening. The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''

Approximately 33% of the world is Christian and 20% is Muslim, based on figures for the year 2000. The number of Muslims is growing at an alarming rate. Muslims immigrated to peaceful, mostly Christian countries in Europe where they had large families that were reasonably safe from the ravages of their own strict religious teachings. At least these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years. The mind-control of the clerics over the average Muslim is frightening and total.

This problem is most notable in the smaller European countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden, where a backlash against Islam is growing because of the strict Islamic laws forbidding mingling with the non-Muslim citizens of a country. In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in. The religious leaders lose their total control of the people if those people are allowed to see and experience the freedom that others enjoy. This is why Islam loathes democracy. Democracy steals the power of the Islamic leaders. It gives the people the right to think for themselves and thinking people might start to question their laws. Free people will question the absolute authority and power of the Islamic leaders over every aspect of their lives from birth to often violent death.

These days, it seems that anyone who speaks out against Islam runs the risk of being murdered, as in the case of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh who was shot, stabbed, and then had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the Netherlands. Van Gogh had made documentaries exposing the brutality directed at women under Islam. Now, mosques and Muslim schools have been burned and the normally peaceful Dutch are considering closing their borders at the very least and perhaps even expelling Muslims from their country. As one Dutch citizen said on a blog, ''This country is a free country but we can't even speak anymore without wondering if some Muslim will murder us.'' The hate and unrest towards the followers of Islam is growing. It is just a rumble now, but it will get louder as the killing and bombing continues across Europe.

A recent report on Fox News showed the hostility growing between the Swedes and their Muslim population. There are Muslim areas where firefighters and emergency personnel will not enter without a police escort because they will be attacked. Firefighters attempting to put out a fire in a mosque were stoned. The anger between these two forces in Sweden is growing and the most liberal country in Europe is contemplating the same action as the Netherlands. It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way. In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.

In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe, Islamic clerics openly troll the streets seeking restless young men to indoctrinate and send out to kill for Islam. They weed out the weaklings by having them view videos of the actual torture and beheadings of human beings complete with the screams of pain and all blood and gore of a nightmare. They watch Islamic ''snuff films.'' This is what will be expected of them as ''warriors'' of Allah.

Here in the United States we have a different set of problems. America is just too large for Islam to overpower by reproduction. It has also been impossible to isolate its followers from the American population and American Muslims are far less likely to follow the path of death and destruction. Here, they take a different tact.

Radical Islam is rampant in the prisons, converting the worst of the worst so that when they leave prison they are unleashed on society as pre-programmed, radical Islamic killing machines. On the outside they appear as average Americans which allow them to move about the country unencumbered and overlooked. These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.

Muslims live in the past where they had their glory days of conquest and power. They often refer to the Crusades, which ended around 1300, as if they happened last year. I am constantly reminded of Wounded Knee and American slavery. Wounded Knee took place in 1890 and slavery ended in the 1860s.

Muslim writers love to point out the Spanish Inquisition, which was an over-reaction to the conquests of Islam in Spain and was just as much political as religious. The Inquisition officially ended in 1834. What they fail to mention is that it was not only Muslims that were persecuted, but Jews and Protestants as well. Muslims always see themselves as the only victims of injustice in the world. Muslims also fail to mention that the Pope tried to intervene and stop the Inquisition but was unable to exert his power on the political machine.

We Catholics look at this period in our history with shame, not pride. Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. Forced conversion is not done out of love, but fear. Islam can control one's body, but it cannot control one's thoughts. Converts that are forced will not stay with Islam. They will leave it at the first opportunity.

This is knowledge that has escaped the Islamics. As they condemn the Spanish Inquisition, Islam is doing the same right now in countries such as Sudan. What Muslims are doing in Sudan is far worse than the Spanish Inquisition. Humanitarian groups estimate that since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine in Sudan at the hands of the Islamic leaders. Anyone refusing to denounce Jesus and accept Islam is executed. Rape is used as a weapon. It seems that all modern-day Islam needs is a coliseum with some lions. Trapped in the past, Muslims call the coalition forces ''crusaders.''

Since the attack on 9/11 here in the United States, the enemy has been exposed. The havens of safety in Afghanistan and Iraq have been taken from the Islamics. In its fury, Islam has made many mistakes. The attacks in Spain and in Bali and murders in the Netherlands and elsewhere have made the world realize that Islam is not just the enemy of America, but the enemy of the entire free world.

Some people were foolishly saying that America deserved to be attacked but when death came to their shores, they were taken aback. They had welcomed Muslims with open arms and this is how they are repaid for their kindness? Some countries are instituting laws that make our Patriot Act pale in comparison. Threatening tapes released by Bin Laden have had the opposite effect.

Instead of cowering, the world is beginning to look Islam in the eye and say, emphatically and collectively: ''NO! This will not be allowed.'' If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assassination; backlash; binladen; clerics; conquest; control; crusades; gwot; immigration; inquisition; islam; muslims; radicalislam; religionofpeace; terrorism
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
TSR, Good post.!

BUMP


21 posted on 11/29/2004 12:43:17 PM PST by Coffee_drinker (The best terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: Falcon76

Yes, Germany and Japan were successful. We do seem to have some trouble with their descendents exporting leftwing "hooey" to some extent, at least we don't have to fight them. I see Turkey as the only example of an Islamic society that seems to work to some extent. Maybe there is some hope for the democracy to work. Islam is by definition so anti-independent thought, that it's hard to imagine it coexisting with democracy to any great extent. From what little I know, Attaturk seems to have come up with a sort of separation of mosque and state that is workable.


22 posted on 11/29/2004 12:43:19 PM PST by badbass
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I'm beginning to think that we're better off if the muslims (at least the radical ones) were kept in their part of the world while we stayed in ours.

In many respects I agree with you. It would be nice to build a wall around these clowns and let them live in 8th Century squalor and ignorance if they so choose. Unfortunately, we HAVE to do business with some of them. Specifically, I'm thinking of the populations of Neanderthals that inhabit Saudi Arabia and Iran as well as other Islamic countries. In the end, the trade-dollars we provide are transferred to the true nutzoids among them hiding out in darkened caves dreaming of a glorious, worldwide Fascistic State under their ignorant rule.

23 posted on 11/29/2004 12:44:54 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: crail
Thus blind acceptance of religion is equivalent to blind acceptance of the current polital system.

Very good point.

24 posted on 11/29/2004 12:46:43 PM PST by badbass
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Great article!

I hope the author is right and the rest of the world finally wakes up to the beast that is the extremist fundamental Muslim religion...seeking only terror, torture and dominance...never peace!

IMHO, and in not that distant future we will see new allies to our cause in Iraq that were just weeks ago laughing at us and our President.

25 posted on 11/29/2004 12:47:39 PM PST by reagankid
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What does a pluralistic, tolerant society do when they are confronted by a belief system grounded in intolerance and hate?

In the U.S. we dealt with it when we had problems with the Ku Klux Klan - and ended it accordingly.


26 posted on 11/29/2004 12:49:19 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: dannyc1
Albania, a country of 70% Muslims, is one of the most vocal supporters of the war in Iraq. One of only 4 countries to send combat troops. Along with neighboring Kosovo, it is the only (polled) place on earth in which polls show a consistent belief that the war in Iraq has made the world safer. When Spain pulled out of Iraq, it was Albania that offered to more than double their troop commitment.

Or we would be hearing from them.
Albania has been given no voice here, which confuses me, I really think it's Bush's fault... He should mention them more and make them a more visible ally. Not only are they a moderate Islamic democracy with an almost unconditional support for the war, Albanians were Clinton's war. Liberals overwhelmingly support freeing Ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, which was the right thing to do... Most people agree with that war. But what's the first thing they did with their freedom? Hauled off to bring it to Iraq. This should speak to Liberals, but no one knows about it... no one mentions Albania, not Liberals, not conservatives.
27 posted on 11/29/2004 12:52:28 PM PST by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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To: beckysharp

Your post recalled my time at Boston University in 1978 as an undergrad. I remember that the anti-Shah of Iran demonstrations on campus (students hiding their faces with black scarves--a foreshadowing of what was to come) were greeted with much enthusiasm by the liberal faculty and fellow students. Though a liberal myself at the time, I was very concerned about what would happen to women if the Shah was overthrown. When I spoke of this concern, I was brushed off and told the Shah was worse than anything the Ayatollahs could come up with. Not happy to have been right.


28 posted on 11/29/2004 12:58:23 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal)
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To: xJones
I'm beginning to think that we're better off if the muslims (at least the radical ones) were kept in their part of the world while we stayed in ours.

It's too late for that now (at least for those of us that support Israel).

The possession of nuclear weapons by Islam and the means and will to use them changes the complexion of this issue completely.

A more drastic solution is required...Islam must either be reformed or...well, you get the picture.

If there is an feasible alternative, please let us all know.

29 posted on 11/29/2004 1:01:49 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Most moderates do not speak out for fear of reprisal from Islamic radicals. Not this chap: www.roadofanation.com an excellent blog from an Iraqi citizen.
30 posted on 11/29/2004 1:03:39 PM PST by vivabushchick ("Picture a smiley face on the Red States")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just exterminate all of them ---everywhere.


31 posted on 11/29/2004 1:07:05 PM PST by Retired Navy Chief (muslim extremist scum don't deserve to live)
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To: Brad Cloven
I've waited over three years for this. Either they are cowed into silence, or they quietly support the radicals.
The problem isn't that they don't exist or are quiet on the topic. The problem is that we don't point it out when they talk. We don't give them a voice. When they do talk, we should be posting it, congratulating it. Instead, we tend to beat it down or ignore it.

2) Forcibly democratize them. (Afghanistan being the only example so far.)
I think you'll have to wait a bit to declare Afghanistan an example. A one month old democracy can hardly be declared stable.
32 posted on 11/29/2004 1:07:10 PM PST by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.

Maybe just coincidence, but Muhammad and Malvo (the DC snipers) shot Linda Franklin at the Home Depot less than 5 minutes walk from the Wahabbi Dar al Hijra mosque in Falls Church, VA. This place is notorious, it has been host to OBL's brother (who lived in Falls Church and ran the World Assembly of Musliim Youth), as well as a banker who once laundered OBL's funds out of the Cayman Islands (he was on the board of the Dar al Hijra).

In addition, Dar al Hijra is where several of the 9/11 hijackers made contacts to obtain their phony Virginia IDs. Again, maybe coincidental that the imam of several other 9/11 hijackers from San Diego moved to Falls Church to "preach" there.

33 posted on 11/29/2004 1:09:20 PM PST by angkor
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To: weenie
A more drastic solution is required...Islam must either be reformed or...well, you get the picture.

Very pragmetic and correct, unfortunately. I believe that when the "more drastic solution" is used, for example in fallujah, then more moderate muslims will start to show., In the end, they won't all have to be killed, some will have a reformation in their religion and will welcome a multi-religious unity with the West. They may always have to be watched, however.

34 posted on 11/29/2004 1:19:47 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: angkor

I'm surprised this mosque isn't a smoking pile yet.


35 posted on 11/29/2004 1:20:42 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I'm beginning to think that we're better off if the muslims (at least the radical ones) were kept in their part of the world...

But TSR, they all read the same filthy handbook. The ones that won't cut our heads off will finance those that will.

36 posted on 11/29/2004 1:24:29 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: KC_for_Freedom
some will have a reformation in their religion and will welcome a multi-religious unity with the West

I hear you...there has been an awful lot of talk about the problem and your comment points to the possible commencement of talk about solutions. Practical, real world solutions...this religion must be purged of its tendency toward hatred and violence if any of its adherents are to survive.

And, I agree, whatever the solution, the situation will require long term monitoring.

37 posted on 11/29/2004 1:27:51 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

38 posted on 11/29/2004 1:34:37 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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To: weenie; KC_for_Freedom

If these dufuses would just renounce the violence and hate (some would say that's renouncing part of their religion), we wouldn't need monitoring. And monitoring peaceful muslims could be a foot in the door to government monitoring all of us.


39 posted on 11/29/2004 1:46:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You raise a very good point...it is definitely a delicate matter.


40 posted on 11/29/2004 2:12:06 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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