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They still haven't figured out that it was a Saiga, an AK-47 variant, NOT an SKS.

They've switched to calling the SKS an "assault rifle" instead of an "assault weapon". Even further from the truth! The SKS was never an automatic. "semiautomatic assault rifle" is a contradiction in terms.

1 posted on 12/04/2004 4:34:26 PM PST by TERMINATTOR
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little things like truth and logic will not stop the brady bunch and liberals in general.


2 posted on 12/04/2004 4:38:13 PM PST by Kidan (www.krashpad.com)
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Boy, that sure didn't take them long. Hope they get as much traction out of this as they did Columbine. So that psycho was using a Saiga, the sporterized variant? NOT an SKS?


3 posted on 12/04/2004 4:38:17 PM PST by sinanju
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Lawrence Keane should have kept his pie-hole shut.


4 posted on 12/04/2004 4:38:53 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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Maybe if we actually punished the criminals who commit crimes with weapons we would get somewhere. Only one of the six people that the guy executed even had a rifle of his own. He's got a violent criminal history as well, something that none of his victims had.
5 posted on 12/04/2004 4:41:01 PM PST by Mojave Mark (The Democrats... gravitas free since '63)
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I think they are correct, these monstrous weapons have to be controlled. They should reinvigorate their most worthy national campaign to get these weapons off the street, er, out of the woods. Should make it a campaign issue in 2008 in fact. Something has got to be done. And the people will support it. Yeah, that's the ticket.


6 posted on 12/04/2004 4:42:47 PM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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We lose the argument as soon as we concede, incorrectly, that the second amendment was about hunting.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

How can that be interpreted to mean "the government shall restrict the right of the people to bear arms to those appropriate only for hunting purposes"???

Since when is the US Constitution about recreation?


9 posted on 12/04/2004 4:53:31 PM PST by watchin (Democratic Party - the political wing of the IRS)
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"This is not a gun you go deer hunting with."
- Anonymous British Colonel, circa 1700's, upon finding those irritating Americans are pretty well armed, and pretty good shots on top of that.

Oh that the great myth that the 2nd Ammendment is for preserving the right to hunt, oh that the lie would just fade away.

Of course, anti-gunners don't care about the 2nd Ammendment. They don't care about what they need to say to gut it, either. Lies? No problem. Misstatements? Sure. Pathetic guilt-trip tearjerker stories? Bring 'em on!

No use preaching to the choir, though. If you are reading this post, you are very likely in agreement.


11 posted on 12/04/2004 4:57:10 PM PST by boycottliberalhollywood.com (www.boycottliberalhollywood.com - www.twoamericas.us)
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Hinkley shot the wrong Brady.


12 posted on 12/04/2004 4:59:17 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (If God doesnt destroy Hollywood he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.)
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Ping to the latest from Brady, et al...

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13 posted on 12/04/2004 4:59:33 PM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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Even if it were an SKS, while not a deer rifle, the SKS is a passable hunting rifle for smaller game. It's an excellent, and cheap varmit rifle.


14 posted on 12/04/2004 5:00:44 PM PST by Melas
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I note that even Keane says "the reason" it should not be allowed for hunting is that it is under-powered for hunting.

Translated by any sane person, that belies the grabbees "high-powered assault weapon" sobriquet, without even addressing their bogus "automatic assault weapon" designation for a semi.

17 posted on 12/04/2004 5:05:50 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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I guess all hunters could give up their firearms and switch to bow and arrow – or Wham-o sling shots.
Of course, the 2nd Amendment doesn’t really have much to do with hunting.


18 posted on 12/04/2004 5:08:00 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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PLENTY of people hunt deer with SKSs in Mississippi.

MM


20 posted on 12/04/2004 5:09:47 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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Maybe the liberals at Brady/MMM should worry about the uncivilized third world garbage Teddy Keennedy/Dems and RINOs allow too flood into America.

If Kerry and his commie pals would have allowed the military and Nixon to win JFK's Vietnam war that LBJ screwed up, the Hmong tribesman like Vang would be back in SE Asia.


22 posted on 12/04/2004 5:16:16 PM PST by FrankRepublican (Boycott NBC & their parent company General Electric for smearing the USMC)
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"Since the ban's expiration, high-profile crimes involving assault weapons have already become more commonplace. Plano, Texas police are searching for members of a bank robbery gang that have opened fire on police with AK-47s, and that same weapon is believed to be the weapon of choice of a killer or killers who have shot eight people in West Palm Beach, Florida."

1. Where are their citations? After all, truth is the first casulty of liberal activism.

2. An AK-47, in fully automatic mode, or with an oversized clip, is still illegal. In semi-automatic mode it's not any more lethal than any number of "non-assult" offerings.

3. In any case, somone who has shot 8 people wouldn't have been converted to a straight-laced Lutheran pastor by the removal of the AK-47, let alone the renewal of that Assult Ban. Ditto for the bank robbers.

The only way that gun laws actually work is if we send in the Marines and the go door to door, breaking down doors and collecting weapons. And that seems to be the intent of some who proposed more gun laws (the rest just want to be re-elected to office).

Tim


26 posted on 12/04/2004 5:19:40 PM PST by TWohlford
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The SKS fires the 7.62x39 cartridge which is similar in power to the .30-30 which has killed more deer than probably any other cartridge. To imply that the SKS is fine for killing people, but not deer also overlooks the similarities in the two animals.


28 posted on 12/04/2004 5:26:59 PM PST by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, except about Hillary.)
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"'The ethics of hunting are you don't want the animal LIBERAL to suffer needlessly,' Mr. Keane said."

OTOH, there's the Saving Private Ryan scenario. Remember the bunkers? The Flamethrowers? Don't shoot! Let 'em BURN!!

29 posted on 12/04/2004 5:27:57 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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The Second Amendment is NOT about hunting food.

It is about KILLING the en enemies of the United States of America - both foreign AND domenstic.

That is what scares the left and lawyers more than anything.


37 posted on 12/04/2004 6:07:43 PM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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Then what about that Hmong guy in Wisconsin? He went hunting with a so-called assault rifle. But, actually, if you read the 2nd Amendment very, very, carefully, it says nothing about hunting. It's there so the individual can defend himself or herself from whatever comes along. Most certainly the government will not do that.


38 posted on 12/04/2004 6:18:16 PM PST by henderson field
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The 7.62X39 Com Bloc round has nearly identical ballistics to the round that has taken more white tailed deer than the next two most popular deer hunting cartridges combined...

The Win 30-30...the caliber of the popular lever action...seen in countless cowboy movies.

There were probably a few thousand rifles chambered in that caliber in the WI woods that day
and hunters armed with them...yet none of them killed any human beings except that scum bag murderer Vang

Low life scum bag dirty rotten crazy sons of beaches have been murdering people since Cain killed Abel...

Sometimes they herd them into camps and kill them by the millions..sometimes they kill their own parents with axes..or kill their spouses with poison...

Murder is as old a crime as mankind...and will be with us as long as man is around...or at least until the Lord Jesus comes back and frees us from our nature...

Naturally the real reason the gun grabbers want to take away firearms is because an armed populace of decent hard working tax payers who know their rights under the US constitution might fight their commie asses when they make their final push to try and take our nation away

Guns in the hands of its free citizens scare the heck outta of totalitarians..they want to disarm us and conquer us so bad they can taste it....

And are looking for any and every excuse and seize upon any lie...to get people to give up their freedom and to force or coerce their neighbors to give up their guns for the gun grabbers..
44 posted on 12/04/2004 7:44:31 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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