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Proof of the Boy Scout's Policy [on Homosexuality] is Working, Catholic Church should Follow
Our Lady's Warriors ^ | Michelle Parker

Posted on 12/05/2004 5:18:10 PM PST by Coleus

Proof of the Boy Scouts Policy [on Homosexuality]

By Michelle Parker

As a practicing Roman Catholic, I cannot write about the advance of the Homosexual Activist Agenda without a look at the current scandal overshadowing the Catholic Church. At first, the news media continually wrote about the “pedophile priest” problem. And then, almost overnight, it became the “sex abuse scandal”. But, when the title changed, no one in the media reported why the issue had become one of “sex” and not “pedophilia.” Why? Frankly, I believe the liberal press didn’t want to have to report that the Boy Scouts of America are right to keep homosexuals from becoming Scout Masters.

In the early 1970’s the entire Catholic Sexual Ethic began unraveling as the sexual revolution unfolded. The cancer of liberalism entered the Church and Catholics began challenging and openly dissenting with regard to abortion, contraception, fornication, divorce and homosexuality. Liberals interpreted Vatican II as a mandate for democratic rule by the laity to guide the Church instead of the revealed truth of Holy Scripture and Christian tradition. Such liberal interpretations of Vatican II coupled with the sexual revolution occurring at the time, led Catholic seminaries to open their doors to theologians who openly challenged Church teaching and taught dissent to candidates for the priesthood. With the Catholic moral guard almost fully down, homosexual men began entering the priesthood in great numbers. A fatal error the Church is now reeling from in the current scandal.

This is certainly politically incorrect territory. But, you only need to look at a handful of the legal cases against the Church to find that a very small number deal with true pedophilia and that the vast majority (about 95% by most counts) deal with homosexual relationships with teen males. And, nowhere is the case made stronger than that of the Reverend Paul Shanley, a Catholic Priest accused of molesting countless young boys in the Archdiocese of Boston. In the early 1970’s Shanley gave a speech advocating sex between men and boys. It is clear today that speech was the impetus for the formation of the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). An organization that Shanley has stayed intimately associated with.

As someone who has personally dealt with the Homosexual Activist Agenda that has invaded our public schools (I was one of the parents that helped to rid the Santa Fe Public Schools of the Gay Lesbian Youth Preventing Homophobia curriculum), I would like to draw attention to an interesting correlation. The Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network (GLSEN) was founded in Boston, the epicenter of the Church’s current scandal. With the blessing of then Governor Paul Cellucci, GLSEN was formed with taxpayer dollars appropriated by the Governor himself. It was also in Boston that the first Gay Straight Alliance formed under the guidance of GLSEN. Now, good Christians everywhere are fighting to keep the Homosexual Activists who are fueled by the well-organized Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network from dominating our public schools. It was also in Boston at Tufts University that the first “Teach Out” was held where children as young as twelve received graphic instruction in the how-to's of gay sex---all paid for with taxpayer dollars under the organization of GLSEN.

A powerful lesson can be found in the rubble of the current scandal for all Christians. We must remain ever vigilant in our efforts to speak the truth about God’s plan for human sexuality and we can never succumb to the smoke screen of human rights that is thrown up each time we object to the normalization of homosexual behavior in the mainstream. Sexual expression is NOT a human rights issue. It is an unpopular view to have, but the homosexual activist movement is all about sex---sex with whomever, wherever, whenever and at whatever age they want. The Catholic Church would have done well to have taken the lead presented by the Boy Scouts and barred homosexual men from any contact with young boys. Sadly, in an effort to be more welcoming and tolerant, the Church compromised its own written principles.

I caution against being fooled by the smokescreens thrown up by liberal Catholics seeking to pin the current scandal on the issue of Celibacy or the ordination of women. If celibacy is not a gift from God and sexual urges are not controllable then we might as well throw in the towel on the whole abstinence issue and admit we are all animals. And, likewise to suggest that women are a cure for promiscuity is just laughable.

Where does the church go from here? It is a multifaceted question with many answers. Clearly, the church hierarchy has issues of responsibility and complicity to answer. After that, a complete restoration and fidelity to Catholic moral teaching must be adhered to. Then, the Church must deal with the Homosexual Activists within its midst with Christian charity and with the principles of Catholic moral teaching.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that homosexuality itself though not a sin is disordered. The pronouncement of sin is reserved to the homosexual act. It is the disordered nature of homosexuality that the Bishops must deal with as it relates to the suitability of homosexual candidates to the priesthood just as the Boy Scouts have done. Concerning this subject, Cardinal Anthony J. Bevilacqua of Philadelphia recently declared, “By his orientation, he’s (the homosexual) not giving up family and marriage. He’s giving up what the Church considers an aberration, a moral evil.” He went on to say that because of this aberration, gays are not suitable for the priesthood even if they remain celibate.

Indeed, it is the disordered nature of homosexuality that all Christians base their objections on. No one, especially not young people, should be affirmed into a disordered lifestyle. A disordered nature isn’t something to be celebrated nor is it something to take pride in. Counter to popular culture we must reiterate that homosexuality is a psychological disorder.

Please pray for the Catholic Church. That is the most important action Christians can take to heal the body of Christ at this crucial time in history. Let's all pray that the Catholic Bishops will take a strong moral stand regarding homosexuality in the priesthood. And, that having taken such an unpopular stand as the largest Christian denomination in the US, it will become a beacon of truth for all people of Faith who fight to uphold Judeo-Christian moral teaching.


NEW FRC REPORT SHOWS LINK BETWEEN HOMOSEXUALITY AND CHILD ABUSE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: May 30, 2002 
CONTACT: Kristin Hansen, (202) 393-2100 
FOR RADIO: Bill Murray

Those among a tiny percentage of population commit one-third or more of the cases of child sexual molestation

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- A new report published by the Family Research Council (FRC) reveals that there is a body of evidence indicating a definite link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Statistics show that homosexual men, who represent less than 3 percent of the adult male population, commit a disproportionate number (one-third or more) of the cases of child sexual molestation. The report, "Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse," authored by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey (available at www.frc.org.), is being sent to parents, youth groups, school administrators, Catholic bishops, and religious organizations.

FRC's report comes at a time when the nation has been rocked by scandals of child sexual abuse and when homosexuals argue that youth organizations such as the Boy Scouts should be forced to include homosexuals as leaders. Similarly, gay activist organizations are encouraging homosexual teachers to share their sexuality with their students. Many parents have become concerned that children may be molested, encouraged to become sexually active, or even "recruited" into adopting a homosexual identity and lifestyle.

"Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse" examines the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia:

"Children have become the last sexual frontier," FRC President Ken Connor said. "Those given the task of protecting our nation's children should give a serious look at these statistics and think twice before complying with the demands of homosexual activists."

GLSEN on the FR

BSA Youth Protection Training


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; catholiclist; gay; glsen; homosexualagenda; homosexuallist; perversion; youthprotection
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1 posted on 12/05/2004 5:18:10 PM PST by Coleus
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


2 posted on 12/05/2004 5:19:06 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

homosexuality must NEVER gain sanction in this country.


3 posted on 12/05/2004 5:22:00 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Coleus
This is the epicenter of cultural terrorism in this country.
4 posted on 12/05/2004 5:24:32 PM PST by Mulch
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To: Coleus

I have taken a lot of heat for stating that every homosexual was a latent Pedophile. Doesnt change the fact.


5 posted on 12/05/2004 5:28:59 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (If God doesnt destroy Hollywood he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology.)
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To: Coleus

Anyone seen James Dale, lately???


6 posted on 12/05/2004 5:31:16 PM PST by Waco
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To: sgtbono2002

You are correct. I spent 20 years dealing with these maggots. Only fear keeps them out of the "chicken patch"


7 posted on 12/05/2004 5:34:15 PM PST by investigateworld (( Another Cali refugee in Oregon ))
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To: sgtbono2002

Here in SD a Boy Scout leader was just caught with many pictures of child porno on his computor.

and on a side note, this from South Dakota Politics


However, it is also time for people to take a good, hard look at its citizens. People involved in the Daschle campaign said they became alarmed during the last month preceding the election at the downright viciousness and hatred exhibited by ordinary people. One campaign leader said, "The fact is that these are not nice people. Why would anyone want to live among them?" Again, South Dakotans tend to mouth all the cliches about the clean and crime-free way of life they cherish while some of the meanest and most bigoted people in the nation are setting a malicious and perfidious tone to everything they touch. It is time to address what some of the citizens of South Dakota are really like.


8 posted on 12/05/2004 5:48:28 PM PST by South Dakota
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To: Coleus

I think the argument that priests should be allowed to marry is about creating a larger pool of potential priests who might not otherwise enter the priesthood, rather than as a cure for sickos.


9 posted on 12/05/2004 5:51:33 PM PST by madameguinot
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To: sgtbono2002

You are right - and I like the point about how all of these Catholic "sexual abuse" cases involved HOMOSEXUALITY. Was there one case where a priest bedded a young woman?


10 posted on 12/05/2004 5:53:18 PM PST by GianniV
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To: South Dakota
Here in SD a Boy Scout leader was just caught with many pictures of child porno on his computer. >>

The rate of scout leaders doing this sort of thing has decreased tremendously since the bsa yp was started. It's not perfect but it works.
11 posted on 12/05/2004 5:57:09 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: sgtbono2002

The Catholic Church's VIRTUS program (Nat'l Catholic Risk Retention Alliance), an education program required of all persons working with children in any Catholic Church setting, states that homosexuality and pedophilia are NOT related. They really made a point of it, too.

So, it's not just turning a blind eye to the problem, the Catholic Church is promulgating this misinformation.


12 posted on 12/05/2004 6:00:07 PM PST by madameguinot
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To: madameguinot

I think the argument that priests should be allowed to marry is about creating a larger pool of potential priests who might not otherwise enter the priesthood, rather than as a cure for sickos. >>

Could be. It's a fact that it won't work for the sickos since the rate of protestant ministers abusing children is almost equal to that of priests. Marriage isn't the solution for preventing child abuse in the ministry. It may help in garnering more catholic priests in the future as you stated.


13 posted on 12/05/2004 6:00:31 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
I've always thought that the BSA should just restate its policy on scout leaders, changing it to: "Mindful that scout leaders will often be placed in intimate unsupervised settings with scouts, no individual who is sexually attracted to males will be allowed as a scout leader." This would encompass both females and homosexual males and thus remove the homosexual argument from the discussion.
14 posted on 12/05/2004 6:10:32 PM PST by PMCarey
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To: GianniV
Was there one case where a priest bedded a young woman?

I know of one. She was 13, if I remember correctly. That particular priest was laicized in the first round.

15 posted on 12/05/2004 6:15:59 PM PST by Desdemona
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To: PMCarey
This would encompass both females and homosexual males and thus remove the homosexual argument from the discussion

Until the first lesbian and her lawyer shoed up. ;-0

16 posted on 12/05/2004 6:19:23 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Coleus
Sadly, in an effort to be more welcoming and tolerant, the Church compromised its own written principles...

Follow the money...and I'm not Catholic bashing. In 53 years I have not found an organized religion that doesn't cater to to the money. Most of the people I've run across are good and decent folks...the wealth-seeking higher-ups have always desecrated the main purpose.

FMCDH(BITS)

17 posted on 12/05/2004 6:20:02 PM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: PMCarey

There's actually a wealth of psychological and anthropological evidence to suggest that adult male homosexuality is an obsessive disorder (I'm not saying that it therefore is not a sin; all kinds of sins are also obsessive). It occurs when the normal bonding of males with other males in childhood is prevented or corrupted, or is associated with cruelty and humiliation. So the homosexual male "knows" that he has always felt attracted to other males, because in point of fact he always has. But his mistake is in thinking that he is alone in this regard. All males long for those bonds -- those friendships, those blood brotherhoods.

They long for them more -- and, sometimes, more achingly -- than women can imagine. When this longing is frustrated by a cruel or absent father, or by repeated humiliation at the hands of the other boys, or by a possessive and sissifying mother, or, horrible to think, by an actual incident of seduction and molestation, the jig is up. At puberty the unfulfilled longing becomes sexualized.

Anyone notice how strange it is that male homosexuality should focus so obsessively, not only on youth, but on such pre-puberty fascinations of boys as urination, defecation, voyeurism, and so forth? They are fixed at the emotional age when everything first went wrong.

SO THEN, THESE are the people you want anywhere near boys??? Most, no doubt, will NOT act on their impulses. But they will feel those impulses (as heterosexual males, if they are normal, feel absolutely nothing in the presence of some 12-year-old girl). They will feel them, and they will not be able to help REACTING from them, in the form of a funny word or two, or too much interest in the boy's life, or a squeeze of the shoulder, or an inappropriate joke, or a suggestive revelation about what life is REALLY like, or something. In no case is it a healthy situation.


18 posted on 12/05/2004 6:23:59 PM PST by Alighieri
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To: PMCarey
Mindful that scout leaders will often be placed in intimate unsupervised settings with scouts, no individual who is sexually attracted to males will be allowed as a scout leader.

Well, DUH!

Are heterosexual males allowed to take Girl Scouts on unsupervised unchaparoned overnight trips?

Of course they are not.

19 posted on 12/05/2004 6:28:37 PM PST by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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" It's a fact that it won't work for the sickos since the rate of protestant ministers abusing children is almost equal to that of priests."

I find this statement entirely unbelievable. Can you cite a reputable source, especially one relating to abuse of boys?

20 posted on 12/05/2004 6:31:05 PM PST by Irene Adler
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