Posted on 12/08/2004 6:07:49 AM PST by occutegirl
FIRE DREIER LIAR JUNE 2005 PRIMARY RALLY
IF YOU ARE FURIOUS OVER DREIER'S VOTE ON THE INTEL BILL COME VOICE YOUR FURY AT A RALLY IN FRONT OF Dreier's OFFICE. Let's send the message to Dreier he will be ousted June 2005 Primary
FIRE LIAR DREIER JUNE 2005 PRIMARY RALLY - BRING A SIGN, MAKE A SIGN, Join in
Date: Thursday, Dec. 9 Place: Dreier's Glendora Office 2220 East Route 66, Glendora, CA 91740 Time: 4-6pm
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Call David Dreier - let him know we his constituents are mobilizing for the JUNE 2005 Primary and email Dreier!
if you have already called Dreier, call him again!
There ya go! Throw the baby out with the bathwater why don't you?
Why don't you concentrate on removing Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, or Maxine Waters instead of committing politcal suicide?
Wow, Dreier talked tough but when it came down to it, he gave a hearty middle finger to everyone on immigration.
Thanks Dave.
1. Because the issue is more important than the person.
2. I Live in Orange County
3. A Republican might actually do something about immigration.
Please see OP Thanks
I like Dreier too. I think John and Ken are out to lunch for whupping it up against DDreier. There are bigger problems by far -- Barbara Boxer, for one. He's good for the San Gabriel Valley in many ways, he is a Republican -- both of those things count for a LOT in my book.
I'm as angry about weak republicans as you are, just don't shoot yourself in the foot by ending up with a Dem in Drier's seat. good luck.
see my OP Thanks
Why? Because the Democracts DON'T COUNT. You could replace all three and idiots like Dreier will still sell us out.
The Republicans have a majority in BOTH houses and have the presidency. They are the ones calling the shots and if they (the Republicans) drop the ball then they should be removed.
Why? Because Dreier is the #3 man in the House and if he goes down the rest of the running dogs will take heed and grow a pair on this issue.
Ok, but be careful what you ask for....
I am asking for the government to stop selling out the country on immigration just because there is money to be made. Is that too much to ask for?
Absolutely not. I'm with you on that. Dreier is carrying water for Bush's nutty amnesty plan and it ticks ne off, too. Yes, hold his feet to the fire, just don't end up with a Dem in his seat because that would be even worse...
So don't start talking about firing him before you've found an ELECTABLE replacement.
"Call David Dreier - let him know we his constituents are mobilizing for the JUNE 2005 Primary and email Dreier!"
Fools. Go ahead and eat your own.
Sorry, you are on your own in this. I won't support replacing of any Republicans in California, no matter what. They are still far better than the alternative.
Karl Rove and the State Republican party will see to it that no real conservative challenges Dreier for his seat.
But if one does, they (the state party, et al) will back Dreier all the way and the Kool-Aid drinkers on this board will moan about replacing an "experienced"(or some other such pablum) Republican with a newbie and how we can't afford an untested person.
I'm unfamiliar with this district but if it is like 90% of congressional districts in this country it is so gerrymandered that only the incumbent party can win it. So with that said beating Drier in a primary, (long shot) won't cost us a seat.
This is idiotic. Please focus your retarded energy on attacking Democrats.
What congressional primary happens in 2005?
You must mean June 2006, but CA people really "believe" in the Dreier candidacy.
Dreier is exactly like the the Democrats on this issue.
The Democrats are irrelevant on this issue because they don't hold power in the Congress.
Our energy, retarded or not, will be focused on taking out someone who can make a difference on this issue but CHOOSES to f**ck us all.
The same could be said of you, every time a Republican is campaigned against, even in a primary, there are so many cliche filled arm chair strategist spouting sayings just like that.
Why don't you concentrate on removing Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, or Maxine Waters instead of committing politcal suicide?
Uh, kind of like how we can't fight in Afganistan and Iraq? We are, so stop your whining.
In case you aren't keeping score, Boxer's approval rating is hovering around 50%, yet she won in a landslide because of the weak "candidate" the CA GOP put up. Besides, this girl from OC is doing her duty as a citizen, opposing all enemies foreign and domestic.
Just keep insulting them until they get back to circle jerking about the irrelevant minority party so we can all feel good about ourselves, please?
Yes, whenever the primary is scheduled. But the groundwork for the primary probably starts in 2005, especially if the candidate will be fighting his own party to get out a lifer RINO like Dreier.
The people are creatures of habit and the level of political awareness is low. Dreier was saved mainly by the absentee ballots. Had the campaign against him started earlier he might have lost.
Amen! It is going to take a moderate Republican to win in California in today's society if a Republican is ever going to win. Once you get some moderates in, you can build the party and work on getting more conservatives in after that. Instead of attacking Dreier so hard, I'd be pushing him to run for US Senate in two years. He might have what it takes to beat Feinstein.
wow, there are so many erroneous assumptions in your reply to me that I'm having a laughing fit right now.
Hey, we already have that. Dreier is a "moderate" Republican, now we are focusing on getting a conservative in his place.
You gotta get off the kool-aid. What does Rove have to do with it?
I see that because of the tremendous success the GOP had in CA with prop 187, you must have in mind finishing the job(sarcasm). Are you a Democrat?
From everything I have heard, the structure of the California Republican Party has been in shambles for the past few years. Personally, I think this is the best way to rebuild it.
I don't buy that for an instant. Name one.
I think you may be right but I wonder if Dreier were:
(pick as many as you like):
for tax increases
for gun control
pro-abortion
anti military
Which one, or combination of these, issues would cause the party loyalists to seek to replace him? And why is being an open borders sellout ok?
This is more a rhetorical question than one directed at you.
Um... yeah. Good luck with that.
What's prop 187? I remember a vote by the people that overwhelmingly passed on something logical, but the Republicans let that get fillibustered in the courts. Their only failure with the California people is how they continue to show what feckless, callow cowards they are.
Are you a Democrat?
Are you always this desperate? The guy made good points. Next you'll be asking when he stopped beating his wife.
I understand what you are saying. But, do you honestly believe he would not be more in tune with your values and philosophies than Feinstein? And, can you think of another California Republican that would have a stronger chance of beating Feinstein than Dreier?
Actually that's only one thing. I can ad more though to help you out; "Republican (1) David Dreier hold a congression seat for the Republicans (2) for 24 Republican (3) years of being in the Republican (4) party."
There, that's 4 reasons for you, I bet those count for even MORE for you, and that is a LOT.
Meet exhibit A of the proverbial Kool Aid Drinker. My goodness.
So, if the guard at the gate has an (R) after his name, you'll feel better on the way to the gas chambers?
Be rational for once, and NOT just a "brand loyalist"....if Ted Kennedy suddenly got an (R) after his name...would his votes AGAINST what you truly believe be OK somehow?
Or is THAT the problem that the Blinders, MK I crowd of Pavlovian (R)'s have...there IS no overriding principle....it's all about having that (R)...whether or NOT they back the issues?
Having one more (D) that votes like the current (R) makes no difference...it still sells out America!
Dump ALL the RINO's...if we lose control...TEMPORARILY...we do. But, by pressing the ACTUAL issues that concern Americans...stemming ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS...securing the borders...Conservative ideals wil win back what we DO NOT HAVE as long as RINO's can SCREW us!
The last primary was the example I had in mind. Sonny Sardo, a businessman from Dereir's district challenged him in the primary.
Sardo was more conservative the Dreier on most any issue you could name. What was the response from the State party.....(sounds of crickets).
Ok, so Rove probably didn't care about it because he new Dreier was a shoe-in.
Prop 187 was a success, it passed with a great majority even among latinos. The Democrat governor let it die in court.
The, "Are you a Democrat?" line is typical when you have nothing else to go on.
I don't know. It would be great to get Feinstein out.
I just have a hard time believing that in the nations most populous state there are no better candidates than Dreier for senate. But what do I know?
I would agree that there are better candidates . . . for us. But, the state as a whole is a little left of center. You have to find a candidate that can pick up some cross-over voters.
Maybe he is exactly like the Dems on this issue (and then again, maybe not...), but there are MANY important issues, other than immigration to look at, like GUN CONTROL, NATIONAL DEFENSE and truly supporting our military, TAXES, etc. The majority of the dems are on the wrong side of almost every important issue, so don't slam Dreier for this one issue. Write letters and email to let him know what you think about this issue and his stance on it, BUT... as some of the other posters said, lets run the demonrats out of town before we start "eating our own".
I was at the first Fire Dreier rally just outside his office in Glendora. I left with a bad taste in my mouth. It was the first time I went to a John and Ken appearance since moving here a year ago, and it'll be my last. Well, I was at the Temecula event August 13th screaming at ASSa and Issa, but I don't really consider that a John and Ken event.
If John and Ken expect to build a ground force they better learn how to treat people who show up.
They could do so much more good if they had a volunteer organization leader to fill ranks and coordinate events.
I bet Dreier could have been ousted had they been serious and had someone with the skills and drive to deploy a volunteer army.
If they really expect to Fire Dreier during the next primary, they need a paid volunteer leader. No, I'm not applying.
Dreier has been a good conservative for years. Punishing him over one vote is ridiculous, especially since they are going to introduce the illegal immigrant subject with another bill in January. For crying out loud, be a bit patient. He is much deeper congressman than just a single issue. He was possibly threatened with withheld funds for his district if he didn't vote for the bill. That's the way the game is played. He will get his chance in January to make amends.
Agreed, he is on the right side of many issues and the Dems are not.
I don't know if you live in Calif. or have had a chance to hear Dreier expound on many issues but he is fairly commie when it comes to taking power away from the professional politicians.
Examples, Dreier was against the Recall of Gov. Davis but once he saw the way the crowd was going he stepped in front and claimed leadership.
He is against the Proposition and Initiative process in California, IOW he doesn't like the great unwashed having that kind of power.
The State of CA bears a multi billion dollar burden of illegal immigration and Dreier does virtually nothing to offset that cost either with federal money or by addressing the immigration problem.
That's just my take.
you are right, one vote is not enough to condemn. There is more to it than that.
I will wait for January. Bear in mind, Dreier is a hardcore LIFER as he's been in power since 1984.
If we are any more patient Vincente Fox will be the next Governor of California.
you are right, one vote is not enough to condemn. There is more to it than that.
I will wait for January. Bear in mind, Dreier is a hardcore LIFER as he's been in power since 1984.
If we are any more patient Vincente Fox will be the next Governor of California.
On the contrary I'm laughing at this whole thing. I guess that includes you.
If you want to discuss activist judges overruling the voters we can talk, this idea of "taking out" senior members of the GOP because they don't meet your "litmus test" on a given issue is simply, shall I say STOOPID.
I'm sure DUmbocrats will have difficulty hiding their GLEE with so much help coming from their opposition.
Since my Rep. is Diane Watson(black and elected for life) I would much prefer ANY Republican to her, unfortunately MY vote has been reapportioned into oblivion.
Hey I voted for 187, I just don't like the results. The GOP used to have a chance in CA, not anymore.
Why not go after the judges, they're the real problem and getting worse every year?
Drier is NOT the enemy, that's MY opinion.
In 1992 I voted and worked for Perot, I got Clintoon, never again from my standpoint.
Dems count. They nullify GOP votes.
We can't fight wars in Afghanistan and Iraq at the same time. Says who?
There's two - and I'm not wasting any more time with you.
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