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Get Out Of the UN, Start Over - (Perfect, Classic Weyrich Argument!)
A.I.M.ORG ^ | DECEMBER 9, 2004 | PAUL WEYRICH

Posted on 12/08/2004 7:36:42 PM PST by CHARLITE

The current UN cannot live without the United States. We pay about a quarter of its budget and for what? To have us slapped down by a group of bloodthirsty dictators who hate our system of government? To have human rights abuses investigated by a committee composed of the worst human rights violators on the face of the earth? To have UN people run for cover as soon as the situation gets tough in Iraq? For the life of me I can't figure out any benefit to staying in the UN.

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1 posted on 12/08/2004 7:36:43 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

This talk of getting out of the U.N. needs to stop.
Sure I hate the U.N. Sure the idea of imploding the U.N. building makes me laugh. But come on people, do we really want Russia, France, China and Great Britian ruling the security council?


2 posted on 12/08/2004 7:49:39 PM PST by mowkeka
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To: CHARLITE
For the life of me I can't figure out any benefit to staying in the UN.

It is like the US has "Battered Wife Syndrome" and the UN is the batterer. I believe, now more than ever, we need to get out of the UN.

3 posted on 12/08/2004 7:51:48 PM PST by msnimje
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To: mowkeka

We need to stay in the UN and exercise our veto on everything. But we don't need to allow them to operate in our country, and we don't need to foot the bill. And we DO need to reclaim ANY sovereignty that we have surrendered.


4 posted on 12/08/2004 7:56:07 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: mowkeka
This talk of getting out of the U.N. needs to stop. Sure I hate the U.N. Sure the idea of imploding the U.N. building makes me laugh. But come on people, do we really want Russia, France, China and Great Britian ruling the security council?

I don't think we should "get out of the UN", I think we should create a "League of Free Nations." We could, over time, defer more and more important world decisions to the will of that group and let the UN "wither and die on the vine."

5 posted on 12/08/2004 8:06:55 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: CHARLITE

The word games BS; we pay a quarter of its budget (of its operating budget, which means its bureaucrats) . I remember reading a while back. When you count all of our food aid that goes under the UN flag, the use of our military, planes to transport the food etc. its more like 80%.


6 posted on 12/08/2004 8:08:01 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini
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To: mowkeka

We are the U.N. less special interest groups and sordid nations of the corrupt and unwilling. It was a good idea gone bad and its to late to fix it. Start a new organization dedicated to the destruction of terrorism and depot regimes around the globe. We need to weed out rogue countries from entrance into the coalition to weaken it. Screw China, Russia, and France! They are the problem.


7 posted on 12/08/2004 8:10:14 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: mowkeka
"Sure I hate the U.N. Sure the idea of imploding the U.N. building makes me laugh. But come on people, do we really want Russia, France, China and Great Britian ruling the security council?"

I don't see where that would make any difference at all. Thats assuming that they would even survive without US funds. But really, even with us there, what have they done? Would they be any more effective without the US? I think they'd be even more inefficient, corrupt and incompetent. They get almost nothing done now, so take the US out of the picture and I don't see that changing very much.

8 posted on 12/08/2004 8:14:15 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: CHARLITE

I realized just how useless the UN is when I found out that Rwanda was a member of the Security Council during the genocide.


9 posted on 12/08/2004 8:17:16 PM PST by Squawk 8888
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To: CHARLITE

The UN is living proof that a body of nations with separate cultural and political interests cannot work.


10 posted on 12/08/2004 8:19:12 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: Noachian

Your statement is correct,and profound.

It ties all the problems up in a neat package-----the UN just won't work!!!!!


11 posted on 12/08/2004 8:46:01 PM PST by Mears
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To: mowkeka
do we really want Russia, France, China and Great Britian ruling the security council?

You presume there is any relevance to that group.

12 posted on 12/08/2004 8:49:33 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

In the last four years the US contribution to the UN -- when you consider all the military aid that Bill Comrade Klinton authorized the US spent over 24 Billion dollars on the UN -- 87% of the UN's true cost.

If we leave the UN it will colapse. Who cares if the French and Russians run the UN. We can openly say that == Since we are leaving the UN we will no longer follow any of it's rules or decisions just like the WORLD COURT!

What will the UN do if they don't like the US -- give us SANCTIONS just like they did to Iraq?


13 posted on 12/08/2004 8:54:28 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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To: CHARLITE
I realized that the UN was useless, when I was watching a story about the Balkan Wars. Finnish troops, who were there under the UN, were guarding people in either Kosovo, Bosnia or somewhere. Serbs drove up, gathered up the men and boys and drove off with them. The UN Peacekeepers just watched. These people were shot.

I think these people were Muslim. I'm not so sympathetic to Muslims anymore. But I still feel sorry for them.

14 posted on 12/08/2004 9:06:45 PM PST by Daaave ( I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it.)
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To: CHARLITE
US out of UNron!!!

Pray for W and Our Troops

15 posted on 12/08/2004 9:08:47 PM PST by bray (Keep Christ in the Manger!)
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To: CHARLITE

The UN still serves a purpose. I'd rather have the ambassadors come to the UN and air their grevences while we ignore them, than having them get together behind closed doors and come out with big smiles. The UN has never really had any power. It is just a stage for the rest of the world to pretend they are important. Some times WE need that so THEY don't start focusing their attention to important matters...like what WE are doing.


16 posted on 12/08/2004 9:15:18 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: mowkeka
I don't think you get it. Who cares about the absolutely corrupt security council? It has lost ALL credibility as a result of the food for oil scandal - and it didn't have much credibility to begin with!
17 posted on 12/08/2004 10:08:50 PM PST by sdcraigo (Kerry's plan simply didn't work...)
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To: Once-Ler

Your right I would rather have them out in the open where we can exercise the veto than having France, Germany, Russia and China having comlete control over it. I think it's time that all member states pull their fair share of the load, The United States should not have to burden the taxpayers with more than a reasonable share. If we supply the food and the equipment to deliver it then it should be paid for out of the UN coffers.


18 posted on 12/08/2004 10:17:44 PM PST by snowman1
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To: sdcraigo
It has lost ALL credibility as a result of the food for oil scandal - and it didn't have much credibility to begin with!

Exactly. And the only credibility it did have came from our presence there.

19 posted on 12/09/2004 10:43:08 AM PST by inquest (Now is the time to remove the leftist influence from the GOP. "Unity" can wait.)
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