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THE UNELECTED DICTATORSHIP Definition of the European Commission. (Fourth Reich)
THE TRUTH ABOUT EUROPE ^

Posted on 12/09/2004 9:36:52 PM PST by jb6

"17 unelected, reject politicians, with no accountability to anybody, who are not responsible for raising taxes, just spending money, who are pandered to by a supine Parliament which is also not responsible for raising taxes!"

Nicholas Ridley, Ex-Conservative Minister

WHAT'S THE SET UP? - In the 1999 EU elections UK voters can only vote for one party (with some names on a list). Undemocratic but who cares! This vastly expensive European Parliament only has power to "advise and consult" the European Commission. (Commissioner Franz Fischler, asked how much notice the Commission would take of the European Parliament, said, "The answer is to be found in the Treaty". ie - No notice at all!). The European Commission is a permanent unelected body of 17 people appointed by national Governments for 5 years or more. Responsible for most EU law, which passes directly into UK law, the Commission is aided by an army unelected officials (a sort of 'Uncivil Service'). The UK Parliament is helpless to amend or reject any of it. Such law is secretly made behind closed doors. The Commission President has a virtual veto over who becomes a Commissioner and provides "political guidance" to all Commissioners.

The Council of Ministers also approves laws. Ministers from each member state meet regularly. A complaint of Ministers is that the main business of the meeting is hammering out a Public Communiqué to give to news reporters after the meeting. In this pretence of democracy everything else is given automatic approval!

In 25 years the EU has issued 23,000 directives and regulations into UK law - a figure greater than the total number of Acts passed by Parliament in the whole of its history! There are around 650 new EU laws each year using Statutory Instruments to bypass our UK Parliament.

The UK is being slowly 'federalised' into 'Regions' by the UK Government. Touted as being "closer to people than Westminster" they deny any link to the fact that such regions exactly match the EU Map of Regions, replacing Westminster with an even more remote Brussels Government! Divide and conquer always works!

Bernard Connally, an EU Head Official, studied the effects of a single currency on the EU. At first a supporter, he was so shocked by his findings that he wrote a book (The Rotten Heart of Europe ISBN no. 0-571-17520-1)warning people against a single currency. From 'respected economic authority' he was promptly dubbed a 'lunatic' and sacked. (Huge EU salaries will only go to those who sing in tune with EU propaganda!)

And what breed are these new rulers of Europe? - For the most part these plutocrats are wealthy landowners and businessmen. From the council of Ministers an Austrian is forced to resign for accepting bribery money from EU coffers! Meanwhile Italians, Berlusconi (imprisoned for 21/2 years), Craxi (waiting trial for corruption) and Andreotti (on trial for murder; also conned Mrs Thatcher into joining the ERM which lost the UK billions) show how easily susceptible the machinery of the EU is to control by the criminally corrupt.

The shadowy Bilderburg Group (formed in 1954) is a secretive cabal of hundreds of the world's leading politicians, businessmen, and media moguls. Leaked sources suggest it is the driving force behind the EU. Among UK politicians attending we see Tony Blair, Ken Clarke (no surprise here) and William Hague (surprised?)

We citizens of Europe are told what to believe, what to eat, what tax to pay, what is safe, and even what measurements to use. We can't vote them out. While politicians talk only about "A Democratic Deficit" - we know the real Truth about Europe is:

IT'S A DEMOCRATIC DISASTER


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: dictatorship; eu; eussr; evil; fourthreich
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1 posted on 12/09/2004 9:36:52 PM PST by jb6
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To: jb6

THE TRUTH ABOUT EUROPE

EUROPEAN UNION

COMING FROM? .......... GOING WHERE?

"We are working discreetly ........ and all the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands"

Arnold Toynbee - Historical researcher and founding father of the EU

  1. European politicians peddle enthusiasm for the EU by not telling the truth about it to their electors. In 1947 Peter Thorneycroft (later Lord and Chairman of the Conservative Party) said "The British People must be led slowly and unconsciously into an abandonment of their traditional economic defences, not asked........" Like Arnold Toynbee above and politicians over Europe since, this shows a contempt, disregard for and complete distrust of democracy. (Why politicians might do this is an issue for another TEC leaflet).

    A European Union built on lies and deceit making the world less stable.

    But whose idea was the EU?

  2. 1930's fascists Hitler and Mosley had "Europe A Nation" as their slogan.

    Hitler's 1942 "Europäische Wirtschaftsgemeinschaft" translates to "European Economic Community", a fact to send a chill warning down our "harmonised" European spines. It gave plans for One European state with One currency and One central bank. (Their other slogan was "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer!" - "One People, One Empire, One Leader!") 1940s German Foreign Minister Carl Clodius said there would be a currency and customs union across Europe. Hitler's plans included state subsidies to landowners and protectionism for European Corporate Industry. Not surprisingly Corporate Industry (including Britain's!) supported Hitler's plans.

    Hitler, once elected with the support of such people, transfered power to himself through emergency laws designed to bypass the German Parliament.

    And Now...........

  3. Today National and European Parliaments are bypassed in the same way by the unelected officials of the EU Commission and EU bureaucrats. EU Treaties signed so far give unelected EU Commissioners absolute power to rule Britain by directive and regulation which our Parliament is Treaty bound to pass into British law - and powerless to oppose! Likewise subsidies and protectionism of EU Corporate industry is commonplace.

    Working documents circulate in the EU on the centralised collection of taxation (VAT) and proposals to make uniform tax laws, pensions and financial services.

    Alone in the EU British politicians are in a state of denial as to what is actually happening. Their re-assuring messages to the British public are widely publicised at home - and ridiculed in the rest of Europe!

    Abolition of border controls and duty free goods (estimated costs of which will completely wipe out a single currency's only economic advantage - reduced money handling charges) is needed for the Euro-State to develop.

    After the war America supported the EEC for political reasons. They pushed the British Government to sacrifice British, Commonwealth and EFTA interests and to apply for EU membership. Today it is clear the EU is not very USA-friendly and some Americans are beginning to see things quite differently. (See quote below.)

From the Romans, through Charlemagne, Napolean and Hitler, this recurring dream - turning into a nightmare

A European Super State Going Round In Circles


DOES THE USA REGRET PUSHING US IN?

Quote: "How can you let a country with a great history for 20 generations, disappear as a province of a bureaucratic Euro-State run by Helmut Kohl? I don't understand what is wrong with you!"
Pat Buchanan. (American Presidential Candidate 1996)


This leaflet (1 of a series of 12) is a rare chance for people to learn something of -

THE TRUTH ABOUT EUROPE

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2 posted on 12/09/2004 9:38:36 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jb6

THE TRUTH ABOUT EUROPE


GETTING INTO
A SUPERSTATE


WHAT MAKES A SUPERSTATE?

  1. A FLAG AND AN ANTHEM - The EU has these - like any other country. EU flags fly above BBC H.Q., on public buildings, training premises, grant-aided businesses and even on churches across Britain.

  2. A CIVIL SERVICE - In 1973 the number of EU Civil Servants was put at 12,071. By 1993 it was in excess of 26,000 (although the EU is reluctant to give specific figures). Civil Servants in all countries work on EU activities.

  3. A COMMON CURRENCY - 11 EU states already in the Euro. Prime Minister Blair subtly changes his language from "IF" to "WHEN" Britain joins EMU.

  4. A NATIONAL POLICE FORCE - Article 10 of The Europol Convention (agreed by Ministers but not by Parliament!) turns Europol from a liaison body between police forces to an operating arm of the EU answerable only to a Management Body (In the USA the FBI is at least answerable to an elected Congress!).
    Activities - extended from immigration, drugs and arms trafficking to murder, personal injury, corruption, racism, environmental crime and xenophobia (including people opposed to EU integration!?). They will have powers of arrest, search and confiscation. Habeas Corpus and Magna Carta cannot protect us.
    Records - detailing "suspects, persons likely to offend, possible future witnesses, victims, possible informants" (anyone missing?). Covers 52 types of information like behavior, lifestyles, routine and character information.

  5. COMMON DEFENCE & FOREIGN POLICY - The EU Amsterdam and Maastricht Treaties make explicit provision for a common EU Defence and Foreign Policy. Slow, indecisive and weak (as in the Yugoslavian Civil Wars - eventually sorted out by NATO action). Against British world interests (like the fishing dispute with Canada).

  6. REGIONAL POLICY - EU financed Committee of Regions (COR) already in place. Cuts across national boundaries (e.g. "The North West Metropolitan Area" includes S.E. England & London, N.E. France, Brussels and part of Western Germany). Local councillors across Britain attend these EU arranged COR meetings. Every County Council in Britain has offices and staff in Brussels, paid for by council taxes. They deal directly with the EU, bypassing National Government. Towns and villages twinned within the EU take a Twinning Oath including the words "......to join forces to secure a successful outcome to this European Union".

  7. COMMON UNITS OF MEASUREMENT - Metrication & decimalisation is so complete in Britain it is a criminal offence to use imperial measurements. Yet metric units have been legal in Britain for over 100 years (except hardly anybody wanted to use them!) The vast & various transition costs will never be fully known.

  8. LAW - 85% of British law now is as a result of EU law. EU Directives and Regulations from unelected Commissioners are interpreted into British law by unelected Civil Servants. Parliament is bypassed by Ministerial Order or Statutory Instrument without MPs awareness. Article K7, Amsterdam Treaty, gives the European Court of Justice power to over-rule national Courts (incidentally proving the Queen is no longer sovereign). Some EU judges are not even legally qualified! The EU Court is a political court devoted to (in its own words) "....overcoming the resistance of National Governments to European integration".

And with common EU borders, EU citizenship with passports, quotas, VAT and tariffs etc., etc., -

THE 1975 ("ONLY A TRADE AGREEMENT") COMMON MARKET GETS 21st CENTURY EU SUPERSTATUS


MEPs CASH COVERS EU DEMOCRATIC DEFICIT!?

In the £670m new EU Parliament MEP's perks are:- 1. Offices with £7000 shower-bathroom units and drop-down beds. 2. £175 a day for just signing on even if they go straight home claiming massive travel expenses en route (-no receipts needed!!). One Spanish MEP made an astute career move to Tenerife gaining £86,000 a year - tax free! 3. A massive salary. 4. Secretarial allowances of £85,000 given to wives & daughters. 5. Pensions, free parking, (isn't "Johnny Two-Jags" Prescott planning to tax you and me for parking at work?), subsidised living - these pampered defenders of EU democracy have the lot. So what do MEPs do? Well they can be consulted by, and give advice to, the EU Commission (those unelected officials who actually make EU law). That's all! Not democracy ........but the money should cover it!!

This leaflet (1 of a series of 12) is a rare chance for people to learn something of -

THE TRUTH ABOUT EUROPE

Previous    Main Page    Next

URL = "http://members.tripod.com/~eurotruth/04.htm"

© TEC 1998

3 posted on 12/09/2004 9:40:16 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jb6

THE TRUTH ABOUT EUROPE

EU PROPAGANDA

"(Learn to love Big Brother or the European Union will fail)"


SOME FACTS:

The European Union only admits spending £200 million pounds a year on propaganda.

The following facts (not in order but frightening in places) shows £200 million is unbelievably low.

  1. EU grants are given on condition that the EU is well publicised, (i.e flying the European flag prominently or by high levels of publicity given in local and regional newspapers etc). UK share of admitted propaganda spending is £20,000,000. We also give large sums to the EU propaganda unit- The European Movement.

  2. The EU pays 5% of production costs of TV soaps, game shows and other "Audio-Visuals" if they use a "Euro-friendly" plot. (TV series `Highlander`, made by French company Gaumont, was amongst first to benefit.)

  3. Hundreds of Economists, Heads of Associations, Journalists, etc. are paid £200 a time for lectures .... but only for giving the EU point of view. (An Austrian Minister was actually forced to resign for accepting such bribes!)

  4. Every school and learning establishment in the EU has masses of glossy,very expensively produced EU literature thrown at them to use in school projects and research. Even children in infant Schools are given EU colouring books which entice them to "Let's Draw Europe Together"!! Such "Educational and Informational" material alone costs hundreds of millions every year.

  5. Hundreds of Offices manned by many thousands of staff all over the EU distribute free EU literature and information and assist Mobile Units visiting schools, universities and public places for the purposes of "dissemination of information about the EU" - (i.e. EU propaganda).

  6. Many hundreds of journalists based at EU headquarters double and treble their incomes by taking on the work of writing reports and other forms of `moonlighting` for various parts of the EU bureaucracy.

  7. Millions of full colour newspapers are distributed free to homes "celebrating" the European Union and our "deep attachment to European Construction". Such "Euro-speak" language reminiscent of the Dalek-language of the old Soviet Union and other extremist regimes.

  8. Thousands of Meetings, Conferences and Seminars, largely financed by the EU are stage managed every year on EMU or suchlike. The EU provide paid speakers who always push the EU line. Press releases report enthusiastic support for EU policies. Those invited are usually people of business, influence or power; who are carefully flattered and overwhelmed with EU propaganda and hospitality.

  9. Organisations, groups, media and businesses not spreading the "right" message about the EU tend to lose out on financial favours.

  10. Vast sums of money are available to politicians, secretaries, researchers, interpeters, reporters and indeed anybody connected with the European Political Empire. No wonder all major political parties, whatever they say, always end up toeing the EU line, signing each and every treaty; trading our future for their gravy train.

The European Union needs to show it has enthusiastic support, in particular from corporate groups (the CBI), Industry (Unions) and politicians. It also needs to make us feel that the process of Europeanisation is one of historical momentum and the future (targeting young people in particular).

Billions of our money squandered brainwashing us to love the EU.


THE EU GOLDEN BOOK CLUB

Did you know? - The European Union Library is so little used by Europe's politicians that each book used costs the European Taxpayer £46,500. These library books really are worth their weight in gold!

This leaflet (1 of a series of 12) is a rare chance for people to learn something of -

THE TRUTH ABOUT EUROPE

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URL = "http://members.tripod.com/~eurotruth/06.htm"

© TEC 1998

4 posted on 12/09/2004 9:42:46 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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Well, Oswald Mosely saw it quite clearly shortly after WWII. Fascism, and Mosely was the leader of the British fascists, may have lost the clash of arms...but they could win politically within the form of a European Union...


5 posted on 12/09/2004 9:56:14 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: swilhelm73
unfortunately for the owner of this diatribe, there are a number of enormous factual errors in the article.

1) the european parliment DOES have sanction over the commission - they can sack them (and did so a few years ago)

2)the EU directives are pieces of legistlation sanctioned by the national governments - its called the council of ministers. the commission is therefore also subject to control from national parliments through their respective governments.

3) national parliments can reject EU directives.

4) you can vote for a plethora of parties for the EU elections - i voted for a party campaigning on an anti-windfarm ticket.

5) unelected civil service - whoever heard of an elected civil service?

if you wish to inform our friends about matters european please do not insult them by passing off a load of deliberately false tripe as if it were the truth.

if you don't like the EU you are free to say so and use any number of perfectly valid arguments that exist to champion your cause - just don't talk utter rubbish that is demonstratibly untrue.
6 posted on 12/10/2004 1:23:04 AM PST by rogermellie
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To: rogermellie

Why are you then responding to me then and not the author if you have criticisms of his article?

The simple truth is that the drive for the EU of the European elites is to run an end around on the issue of representative government. Mosley may have been a vile man...but he was not a dumb one.

The EUnchs want technocracy - not democracy (or republicanism).


7 posted on 12/10/2004 1:41:37 AM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: jb6

ping


8 posted on 12/10/2004 1:42:24 AM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: rogermellie; Slipperduke; pau1f0rd; flitton; Bulldog666; jjbrouwer; tjwmason; Lutonian

ooh this is a corker. Rodge is already at work, but Redcoat backup is required methinks.


9 posted on 12/10/2004 3:01:47 AM PST by AngloSaxon (successful)
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To: swilhelm73
Mosley may have been a vile man...but he was not a dumb one.

Mosley wasn't the only supporter of European Union at the time, a certain Winston Churchill also spoke in its favour (though he thought that Britain should remain aloof).

For the record, I utterly oppose the E.U. and having studied it for 4 years at university think that if we leave to-morrow it will be several years too late. My problem is that if fruity-loop garbage is spewed forth about the E.U. then people who have an ounce of sense will run a mile away from the real argument. It demeans the anti-European movement to suggest that we are facing the fourth Reich.
10 posted on 12/10/2004 3:14:48 AM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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You ignore the import I think of something like a Mosley endorsement of a European Union.

Churchill wanted a Union to keep Germany in check and face the Soviet Union. Germany, of course, is if anything overly pacificist now, and while Russia isn't a perfect liberal democracy, it isn't about to rush to the Rhine either.

So why then would one of Europe's premier fascists endorse the idea? Because it was a good vehicle to advance his ideological agenda.

Yes, calling the EU the 4th Reich is hyperbole. But one can easily see an EU in 20 years where most of the political power is held at the supernational level by a tight nit political elite with little to no need to answer to the will of the people.


11 posted on 12/10/2004 3:49:36 AM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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"Germany, of course, is if anything overly pacifist now, and while Russia isn't a perfect liberal democracy, it isn't about to rush to the Rhine either.

So why then would one of Europe's premier fascists endorse the idea? "

The problem with your argument is that you're talking about the Europe of today and a fascist leader (Mosley?) from the 1930's, who is, unless I'm mistaken, quite quite dead.
12 posted on 12/10/2004 3:57:23 AM PST by AngloSaxon (successful)
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To: swilhelm73

your hypothasis also fails to take into account the new 'constitution' of the EU. its mainly an amalgamation of the previously separate treaties, but it does significantly extend the european parliments powers in holding the commission to account, it also removes european political power from some areas and makes bi-lateral agreements between interested states more of a likelyhood.

it also of course increases the areas subject to qualified majority voting, but all of these changes are subject to the approval of national parliments and in most cases in europe, a puplic referendum.

most importantly, all members of the EU are able to cecede from the EU should they wish to do so.

i remain interested to know how a club which your need to volunteer in order to join, can then help make the rules that run the club and choose its officers, and can then leave at any time, can be portrayed as an unelected dictatorship.


13 posted on 12/10/2004 4:19:40 AM PST by rogermellie
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So why then would one of Europe's premier fascists endorse the idea? Because it was a good vehicle to advance his ideological agenda.

I wouldn't go quite as far as to call Mosley one of the premier fascists, afterall Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco all actually gained power (b.t.w. Hitler was a Nazi, which I would hold to be a very different ideology to Fascism).

Many lefties have also supported, and continue to support, the E.U. Many old-style High Tories do. Many Americans have done so. This is the point, European union provides a strong locus of power, thus the movement which controls the E.U. has a good vehicle to advance its agenda, whatever those agenda are. An aeroplane is a good vehicle for travelling between countries, and it carries all types of people - so too the E.U. is a good vehicle for promoting an ideology, and it could be used to promote any ideology.
14 posted on 12/10/2004 4:23:15 AM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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To: rogermellie
i remain interested to know how a club which your need to volunteer in order to join, can then help make the rules that run the club and choose its officers, and can then leave at any time, can be portrayed as an unelected dictatorship

I do find this question to be most interesting, the pro-Europeans should be the ones concerned about the supposed 'democratic deficit' whereas anti-Europeans should be unconcerned, yet in general the positions are reversed.

If one is pro-European, then one supports the notion that there is a legitimate locus of authority above the level of a nation-state. If one also believes in democracy then one should support the democratisation of that layer of government (as one should support the democratisation of any layer of government).

On the other hand, the principle opponents of the E.U. are those who believe that the fundamental form of government is the nation-state; in this case if that nation-state chooses to involve itself in an international body, then the legitimacy of the international body flows from the nation which has engaged in treaties to that end. To democratise an international body makes no sense if one believe that an international demos does not exist.

Thus, if one opposes the European Union on the basis that it draws power from the nation-state, one must still submit oneself to its decisions (as they have been legitimated by the national government), and one should not have a problem with its lack of elections.
15 posted on 12/10/2004 4:33:27 AM PST by tjwmason ("For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman!")
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i know what you mean, there are some bizaare bedfellows in both camps.

personally i feel quite european, if i go to germany, switzerland or the czech republic i feel quite comfortable that i will be treated with politeness and that the same standards of behavior will apply as do at home, rather than somewhere 'foriegn'.

to be honest, if the european parliment were to become more powerful in its scrutiny of the commission i would be more enthusiastic.

as i've said before, the central theme of european states is that they are secular, liberal democracies, apart from speaking different langagues our attitudes are remarkably similar - even the french.


16 posted on 12/10/2004 5:15:34 AM PST by rogermellie
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To: jb6
Revived Roman Empire
17 posted on 12/10/2004 5:18:39 AM PST by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think (When they are off I am single minded))
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To: AngloSaxon

That is a strange argument.

A fascist's favorited project is slowly but surely coming to fruition, and your argument is that is matters not because he is dead.

I suppose that the Dutch's eugenics project isn't a problem because Maggie Sanger is dead too? Or Soviet Communism because Marx was long dead?


18 posted on 12/10/2004 12:46:48 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: tjwmason
Hitler was a Nazi, which I would hold to be a very different ideology to Fascism

VERY different? What are the differences that amounts to "very"? National socialism, fascism, marxism, and communism are all the same ideology with small variations.

19 posted on 12/10/2004 1:26:40 PM PST by Durus
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To: rogermellie

Amusing. When will this "constitution" be put to a vote, by the people, in every country seeking to enter the EU?

Looking at the latest map;

http://europa.eu.int/futurum/ratification_en.htm

in only Portugal, Ireland, and Denmark will the people have a final say on the loss of their soverignty.

Of course seeing the results of past nos, perhaps calling even this a final say is overly optimistic.

Secession? Apparently you are not a student of history. Look for example at the American experiment where the right to secede was considered implicit within the Constitution...until someone actually tried to leave the Union*.

I'm also bemused how the people have a say over the most powerful part of the EU - the European Commission - which, unlike the Parliment, has the power to propose new laws.

*An argument can be made that the governments of the Confederate states, in denying the franchise to blacks, did not have the rightful power to secede, but outside of myself, I've never heard such an argument made.


20 posted on 12/10/2004 1:37:22 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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