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No peace on Earth during unjust war (GREELEY ALERT)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | December 24, 2004 | ANDREW GREELEY

Posted on 12/24/2004 7:00:22 AM PST by Chi-townChief

One reads in the papers that the Pentagon expects the war in Iraq to continue till 2010. Donald Rumsfeld will not guarantee that it will be over by 2009. How many dead and maimed Americans by then? How many sad obituaries? How many full pages in the papers with pictures of all the casualties?

Why?

The reasons change: weapons of mass destruction, war on terror, freedom and democracy for the people of Iraq, American credibility. All are deceptions. This cockamamie and criminally immoral war was planned before the Sept. 11 attack in which Iraq was not involved. It has nothing to do with the war on terror. American-style freedom and democracy in Arab countries are hallucinations by men and women like Paul Wolfowitz and Condi Rice whose contribution to the war is writing long memos -- Republican intellectuals with pointy heads.

One must support the troops, I am told. I certainly support the troops the best way possible: Bring them home, get them out of a war for which the planning was inadequate, the training nonexistent, the goal obscure, and the equipment and especially the armor for their vehicles inferior. They are brave men and women who believe they are fighting to defend their country and have become sitting ducks for fanatics. Those who die are the victims of the big lie. They believe that they are fighting to prevent another terror attack on the United States. They are not the war criminals. The ''Vulcans,'' as the Bush foreign policy team calls itself, are the criminals, and they ought to face indictment as war criminals.

There is an irony in the promise of a prolonged war. The Vulcans believed that, as the world's only superpower, the military might of the United States was overwhelming, irresistible, beyond challenge. In fact, the war into which they tricked us has become a quagmire, 130,000 American troops are at the mercy of perhaps 5,000 true-believer guerrillas and an Iraqi population that doesn't like Americans any more than it liked Saddam Hussein. It is a war in which there is no possibility of victory -- whether it ends in June 2005 or June 2010, whether there are 2,000 American battle deaths or 50,000, whether there are 10,000 wounded Americans or 500,000, whether those with post-traumatic stress are 10 percent of the returning troops or 30 percent.

One of the criteria for a just war is that there be a reasonable chance of victory. Where is that reasonable chance? Each extra day of the war makes it more unjust, more criminal. The guilty people are not only the Vulcans but those Americans who in the November election endorsed the war.

They are also responsible for the Iraqi deaths, especially the men who join the police or the army because they need the money to support their families -- their jobs eaten up in the maw of the American ''liberation.'' Iraqi deaths don't trouble many Americans. Their attitude is not unlike the e-mail writer who said he rejoices every time a Muslim kills another Muslim. ''Let Allah sort them out.''

This time of the year we celebrate ''peace on Earth to men of good will.'' Americans must face the fact that they can no longer claim to be men and women of good will, not as long as they support an unnecessary, foolish, ill-conceived, badly executed and, finally, unwinnable war. If most people in other countries blame the war on Americans, we earned that blame in the November election -- not that there is any serious reason to believe that Sen. John Kerry would have had the courage to end the war. Perhaps if he had changed his mind, as he did about the war in Vietnam, and opposed the Iraqi war, he might have won. Too late now. Too late till 2010 -- or 2020.

Note: Some conservative Catholics -- Republicans, I assume -- are spreading the word on the Internet that I am an ''unfrocked'' (sic) priest. That is false witness. I am and have been for 50 years a priest in good standing of the Archdiocese of Chicago. Call (312) 751-8220 if you don't believe me. False witness is a grave sin and must be confessed before Christmas communion. Moreover, those who commit it are bound to restore the reputation of the one about whom they've lied.


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This one is kind of ironic since Iman Greeley has made a career of bearing false witness against his fellow Catholic, conservative Jews ("neocons" as he calls them), Chicago's archbishop Cardinal George, President Bush and administration members, Pope John Paul II, and anyone else who disagrees with his warped anti-American socialistic worldview.
1 posted on 12/24/2004 7:00:22 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

This (in)famous published author has gone moonbat.


2 posted on 12/24/2004 7:04:33 AM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: Chi-townChief

Is Andrew Greeley a Catholic Priest or Muslim Mullah? This article is similar to the talking points uttered in the Mideast media.


3 posted on 12/24/2004 7:04:34 AM PST by Kuksool
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To: Kuksool

He's more like a mullah if that last paragraph is any indication.


4 posted on 12/24/2004 7:07:06 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief
Note: Some conservative Catholics -- Republicans, I assume -- are spreading the word on the Internet that I am an ''unfrocked'' (sic) priest. That is false witness. I am and have been for 50 years a priest in good standing of the Archdiocese of Chicago. Call (312) 751-8220 if you don't believe me. False witness is a grave sin and must be confessed before Christmas communion. Moreover, those who commit it are bound to restore the reputation of the one about whom they've lied.

Father, what penance would you impose for saying "dreary old windbag"?

5 posted on 12/24/2004 7:16:44 AM PST by dighton
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So why isn't this pig de-frocked?
I'm always so amused when someone like this is so concerned about the waste of life when someone in the Military sacrifices for our freedom. If they want to campaign for waste of life why don't they get on the illegal drug bandwagon. If Greeley and his ilk, including the media, mounted an anti-drug campaign with the vigor that they campaign against selective Military actions, drug deaths would have diminished been long ago. That's a waste of life.
6 posted on 12/24/2004 7:18:37 AM PST by pieces of time
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"Moreover, those who commit it are bound to restore the reputation of the one about whom they've lied."


You first Greeley.
Although I don't think you have enough time to finish before Christmas communion...you hypocrite.


7 posted on 12/24/2004 7:20:37 AM PST by macamadamia
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To: Kuksool

I think he should be more concerned about the cleaning up of the house that he lives in before concerning himself with the house alongside his.


8 posted on 12/24/2004 7:24:43 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Chi-townChief

He needs to spend 40 days and 40 nights in the desert.


9 posted on 12/24/2004 7:38:36 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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"False witness is a grave sin and must be confessed before Christmas communion."
So is encouraging Catholics to vote for abortionist.
Father do you really believe that God will judge you only on the things YOU want HIM to consider? Do you think God is a liberal democrat?


10 posted on 12/24/2004 7:41:51 AM PST by jmaroneps37 ( Frist/ Blackwell in 2008 for a landslide: you saw it here first.)
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Hey! This man is correct. We would be a stronger nation if we all hid under rocks and put our fingers in our ears while screaming "LALALALALALALALA" as the chips around the globe fall.

No nation is a threat. Nuclear weaponry is merely a bugbear and WMDs don't actually exist. We can indefinitely continue our existence as the most successful nation on the planet by immediately disarming, throwing our CCW permits in the garbage and give each other loving embraces of goodwill and fuzziness. Weak nations all endure the ages because everyone will marvel of our meekness and just leave us alone while our national treasury grows and our prosperity goes on without end.

Bah.

This article is the ramblings of an intellectual child who finds incredible depth in the phrase "Why can't we all get along?" "We wouldn't have wars if people would stop shooting at each other" is a statement fit for the finest sage of the ages.

Greely is just another bubblemonkey with a dry bubble wand. All breath (in a huff and puff sort of way) and no product.

This man sees ink? What wretched editor is this cretin's enabler?

APf
11 posted on 12/24/2004 7:44:38 AM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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I guess the victims of Saddam Hussein are worthless subhumans in Fr. Greeley's eyes.


12 posted on 12/24/2004 7:45:45 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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NOTE TO MEDIA: THEY’RE NOT INSURGENTS – THEY’RE TERRORIST COCKROACHES!


13 posted on 12/24/2004 7:49:50 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Greeley is extra-grouchy this year.


14 posted on 12/24/2004 7:54:45 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: Chi-townChief

Andrew Greely=Jane Fonda in a Cassock


15 posted on 12/24/2004 8:00:59 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Chi-townChief

Again with the SAME LINE...Don't bother reading the article...it's a rehash of old propaganda...


16 posted on 12/24/2004 8:08:50 AM PST by Edgerunner (Don't pay attention to me, ..I haven't been here long enough to have any credibility...)
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To: Chi-townChief
I certainly support the troops the best way possible: Bring them home, ...

Our troops will not appreciate having to fight radical Islam within our own borders with far more restrictive ROEs. Not to mention that fighting them here will be completely useless since they will continue to train, outfit and deploy outside our borders.

17 posted on 12/24/2004 8:18:14 AM PST by TigersEye (Frag an embed for me.)
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The reasons change: weapons of mass destruction, war on terror, freedom and democracy for the people of Iraq, American credibility.

I got your false witness hanging right there, Padre.

18 posted on 12/24/2004 8:22:55 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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They are also responsible for the Iraqi deaths, especially the men who join the police or the army because they need the money to support their families --

I guess it never occurred to this guy that those Iraqis might just want help Americans to purge the terrorists from their country? Nah, just like our soldiers, Greeley is sure they joined for the paycheck. He has no concept of the words "duty" or "honor".

19 posted on 12/24/2004 8:24:13 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Chi-townChief
This time of the year we celebrate ''peace on Earth to men of good will.'' Americans must face the fact that they can no longer claim to be men and women of good will, not as long as they support an unnecessary, foolish, ill-conceived, badly executed and, finally, unwinnable war.

I don't often agree with Fr. Greeley, but here, he got it right. At least three of his five adjectives modifying "war" are spot on.

20 posted on 12/24/2004 8:28:26 AM PST by St.Chuck (Induimini Dominum Iesum Christum)
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