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Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede Election Challenge likely on Jan 6th (Christmas giggle!)
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Posted on 12/25/2004 10:35:11 AM PST by hipaatwo

If you haven't been following John Kerry closely, get ready to hear of surprising developments. The vote-defrauded, potential president-in-waiting has just indicated through his lawyer that the validity of George Bush's reelection is no longer a given.

On 23 December, 2004 Kerry's lawyer confirmed to MSNBC's 'Countdown' that John Kerry will be seeking (likely on Monday 27 Dec.) to expedite court proceedings in an ongoing recount suit by the Green and Libertarian parties. That might sound like just another "count every vote" exercise by the Kerry campaign, were it not for two important details.

Kerry's court filing will conjoin him to existing allegations that Triad Systems, a Republican-linked supplier of voting machines to around half of Ohio counties --"orchestrated" a covert campaign to thwart a legitimate recount in Ohio. If the allegation proves well founded, it could invalidate the Ohio recount and eventually even hand the presidency to John Kerry.

Which probably explains the second critical detail: a quiet, on the record bombshell statement to 'Countdown' by Daniel Hoffheimer, the Cincinnati lawyer representing the Kerry campaign in Ohio.

Previously, the Kerry Campaign's intent in Ohio seemed to be merely an exercise of American civic spiritedness.

Two weeks ago, when Kerry wrote to Ohio's 88 county boards of election asking to visually inspect some ballots, Donald McTigue, the lawyer handling the recount for the Kerry campaign said: "We're trying to increase the transparency of the election process."

In early December, when the Kerry Campaign joined a suit by Green and Libertarian party candidates seeking a recount in Delaware County, Daniel Hoffheimer said Kerry wasn't disputing President Bush's victory in Ohio. The aim was to make sure any recount was "done accurately and completely," Hoffheimer said.

Now MSNBC 'Countdown' reports the same Hoffheimer, in comments on their imminent filing in the Ohio recount, concluding their call for a scrupulous recount with this caveat:

"...Only then can the integrity of the entire electoral process and the election of Bush/Cheney warrant the public trust."

That's the first time the Kerry Campaign has impugned the legitimacy of Bush's reelection.

RECOUNT CHEAT SHEETS

It's a signal move, likely driven by emerging evidence of suspicious activity by representatives of Triad Systems during the recount in Ohio. Evidence which has led a senior Democrat, ranking House Judiciary Cmtee. member, John Conyers Jr. to accuse the boss of Triad Systems of "orchestrating" a criminal conspiracy to pervert the outcome of the Ohio recount.

The allegations first surfaced before an Ohio hearing convened by Conyers on behalf of Democratic Minority members of the House Judiciary Committee. An affidavit filed by Sherole Eaton, Hocking County deputy director of elections, stated that a Triad representative had told her "how to post a 'cheat sheet' on the wall so the ...count would come out perfect and we wouldn't have to do a full hand recount of the county."

That account has been corroborated by other officials and by extracts from a video documentary in which a Triad technician admits that the company was in possession of computer "backup" copies of the official election data.

SIGNAL, THEN MANEUVER

If the recount was fraudulent, does that have implications for the validity of the first count in Ohio? The Kerry campaign knows full well that it does. That's why their latest statement questions the "integrity" of the "entire" electoral process. And the election of Bush/Cheney.

For Kerry, a fraudulent recount in Ohio could be an open door into to the Oval Office. Already, John Conyers is confident that a few U.S. Senators will join House members on January 6 to question the November 2 election. On Thursday, the Chicago Tribune reported that in a conference call with journalists Jesse Jackson said that Kerry had conceded the presidential election "much too soon. Before all the facts were in."

But don't expect Kerry to quickly rush to a microphone in order to unconcede. He doesn't have to. His unconcession will take effect by default.

If the Ohio recount is shown fraudulent, the domino effect could carry him through that door without claiming victory or even unconceding.

Simply by allowing Bush's claim on the Office of President to fall --piece by fraudulent piece. Nudging the dominoes to topple in the right way.

Thus leaving Kerry, poised to step into office over the Bush debris.


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 2004election; 2004electionrecount; algorelegacy; bushwins; civilwar2; civilwarii; dummies; electoralvote; flipflopalert; howtostealanelection; kerrycampaign; kerrydefeat; ohiorecount; traitorslose; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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To: Connie Cardullo
Thank you. (beam)

Someone wears pink in that household, and it doesn't seem to be Tuh-ray-zuh. ;-)

61 posted on 12/25/2004 8:38:04 PM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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To: hipaatwo

Basic bottom line, you don't hand the country over to the gigolo after W. just won the popular vote by four or five million. Worst possible case, we toss the EC today, rather than wait another four years.


62 posted on 12/25/2004 9:10:04 PM PST by judywillow
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Its all coincidental none of the self-appointed "honest vote" monitors have pushed for recounts in states won by Kerry. There weren't problems there? Sure it was as kosher as pigs are.


63 posted on 12/26/2004 12:02:08 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Except they are evidentally very serious about this -- an ex Clintonista was on H&C this week and he was dead-on serious about they are stopping the inaguration on January 6th (in court) and Kerry WILL take office -- he even had Alan Colmes madder than a wet hen before the show was over.

I don't think they have the authority to do so. Here is the section of the Constitution regarding the election of the President:

Article II

Section 1. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President; and if no person have a majority, then from the five highest on the list the said House shall in like manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each state having one vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal votes, the Senate shall choose from them by ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

The legislature of the state determines how they select electors. The Congress only has authority to count them, unless there is a tie. The state of Ohio has already selected their electors, the electors have cast their ballot, and they have been counted by the Senate. There is no provision to stop the inauguration of the duly elected President.

gitmo

64 posted on 12/26/2004 1:37:36 AM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: hipaatwo

Oh, God, I fled that area in 81 and never returned.

but it would be interesting to ponder just how to start breaking the corrupt dem machine there.


65 posted on 12/26/2004 3:51:10 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

The dem/union machine is so entrenched here I don't know if it can ever be broken. I miss Rizzo!


66 posted on 12/26/2004 6:04:17 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo
Sure it can. After all, losing every National election is a start, but you are certainly right about it being a very daunting effort.
It will be very hard to break the Philla machine without a statewide effort to elect state officials without the Phila vote.
That would in effect, make them irrelevant and *that* would have telling effect on issues such as funding for the city.

Rizzo! Oh God, remember that lie detector test that he failed? LOL!
67 posted on 12/26/2004 7:49:06 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

I did forget until you reminded me..LOL! But, he was STRONG. Katz could have beat Street if the FBI bug wasn't "found by mistake" by our Police Commissioner who's son happens to work for the Phila. FBI. As soon as that happened Chaka Fatah (gag) said it was "racial" and that was that. Now, if your as old as me (50) you remember the Street brothers well.


68 posted on 12/26/2004 8:07:03 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo
ON January 7th, millions of Americans sickened by Democrat antics rebel and simply ignore them. Stunned by their indefinite irrelevance within American society, the emmigrate to Canada and Mexico, which consequently interns them within concentration facilities to prevent societal infestation of Democrat values. America rejoices...
69 posted on 12/26/2004 8:12:37 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: hipaatwo
FLIP FLIP CLIP CLOP

Please keep horseface off my television set.

If I wanted to hear a talking horse I'd buy the Mr. Ed DVD boxed set, and if I wanted to hear a talking jackass, I'd watch a "Francis" movie...

70 posted on 12/26/2004 8:21:54 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: hipaatwo

Any other source for this besides DU and Fintan Dunne?


71 posted on 12/26/2004 8:25:27 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Not that I know of. I posted it as a joke so we can see once again how DUmb they are.


72 posted on 12/26/2004 8:28:01 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo
I posted it as a joke so we can see once again how DUmb they are.

Thanks. Always good to get a peak through the curtain at the freak show. I was just wondering if you knew if this had been picked up by any of the Legacy Media. Maybe it will be after the Christmas weekend and if it turns out to be true.

73 posted on 12/26/2004 8:30:15 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: bassmaner

If they keep this up, they might get what they wish for.... honest elections. What's that gonna do for the dead vote.


74 posted on 12/26/2004 8:37:16 AM PST by RedwM
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To: gitmo

Guess these people didn't bother to read the Constitution --this guy (wish I remembered his name) was so smug and sure of himself -- and Alan Colmes was coming unglued telling him they had to "get over it" and get back to trying to put the Democratic party back together; to which this guy stated that Alan worked for Fox NEws so what did he expect from him -- at that Alan looked like he wanted to strangle him but informed him -- strongly -- that FOX never tells him what to think or say and this guy made all liberals look bad -- it was very entertaining. Someone who knows how should find the transcript!~


75 posted on 12/26/2004 8:37:21 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: JRios1968

A CoOp is like CBS and DNC are a Co-Op.


76 posted on 12/26/2004 9:51:47 AM PST by Uncle George
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To: goldstategop

Florida 2000 was incredibly successful for the Democrats. It stirred up a hatred that made a lot of people very rich. There is no doubt there are some Democrats who wanted Kerry to lose, but to lose close somewhere. There will always be a market for this stuff. Democrats are not used to losing convincingly. The Democratic coalition was vast, deep and contradictory. Now it consists of liberals and African-Americans. And the liberals are in charge. If African-Americans vote even 30% Republican, it's all over except in New England.


77 posted on 12/26/2004 10:07:22 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: hipaatwo
You know, it's funny:  I haven't heard one person explain exactly how "fraud" was committed in Ohio.

There are tens of thousands database and software engineers who are liberal but I haven't heard even one map out how the electronic voting machines could be hacked or the data corrupted.  These are databases:  they have time-stamps, transaction logs, ECC and parity checks....there's 30 different ways a professional could determine if a computer has been tampered with.

That Betty chick who defrauded liberals did post a reference to a TCP/IP log pinging a private network but she was too stupid to figure out if the machine had a WiFi adapter or not. 

Which, frankly, is pretty damn stupid: if you can't figure out whether a Windows box has a network card in it, a hair dryer is pretty much the only electrical device you should be allowed to handle.

78 posted on 12/26/2004 10:21:40 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: plangent
My GAWD! You're right. New York cast its 31 electoral votes for John L. Kerry

So does this mean that if Ohio could be turned to the darkside we could have a Bush/Edwards administration? And there's some hapless shmuck in Taxachusetts named "John L Kerry" on a collision course with his 15 minutes?

79 posted on 12/26/2004 11:07:12 AM PST by surtcaldera (Adding to the vastness of the rightwing conspiracy, one post at a time)
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To: surtcaldera; All

Gloat bump.


80 posted on 01/07/2005 5:22:44 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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