Posted on 01/03/2005 4:51:43 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
COLUMBUS, Ohio - President Bush's re-election campaign asked the chief justice of the Ohio Supreme Court on Monday to throw out a challenge of the election in this swing state, saying the case resembles "a poorly drafted script for a late night conspiracy-theory movie."
The court filing was made as the Rev. Jesse Jackson held a rally before hundreds of people in Columbus to support the challenge and urge the U.S. Senate to debate Ohio's results on Thursday when Congress is in joint session for the official tally of the electoral votes.
Thirty-seven Ohio voters who filed the challenge are asking Chief Justice Thomas Moyer to set aside the election results. Some of the voters are suspicious of Bush's victory over Sen. John Kerry, while others say hours-long waits in heavily black neighborhoods caused voters to leave in frustration without casting a ballot.
"In 2000, if Al Gore had just held on and fought to the bitter end, he would have been president," said Mark Lomax, a black Columbus musician challenging the vote. "I kind of have the same feeling now — whether or not you like John Kerry, that's not the issue. It's just that your vote counts."
Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell said there's no reason to prolong the election.
"Jesse Jackson can complain, grandstand, whine, stamp his feet all he wants," said Blackwell spokesman Carlo LoParo. "It's not going to change the results of Ohio's election or how voters cast their ballots on Nov. 2."
The Bush campaign echoed those sentiments in the filing, saying the challenge falls "far short of a legitimate election contest."
It is not known when the chief justice might rule on the challenge.
Bob Fitrakis, one of the lawyers who filed the challenge, said that if Moyer's decision comes after the tally by Congress, it likely wouldn't have any effect on the outcome of the presidential election. But any ruling favorable to the challengers — regardless of when — would bolster their efforts to improve voting law, he said.
Well, if it makes them happy to believe that he's scared, who are we to stop them?
Oh, and BTW, Kerry is so BRAVE for refusing to come out in the open by himself in a lawsuit and using the greens and libertarians as cover. Yes siree, reaaaal brave he he he.
Dec. 12
T'anks! I knew it was over a month that Soreloserman kept it going.
"In 2000, if Al Gore had just held on and fought to the bitter end, he would have been president," said Mark Lomax, a black Columbus musician challenging the vote. "I kind of have the same feeling now — whether or not you like John Kerry, that's not the issue. It's just that your vote counts."
Note to Mark: Not true. Many news organizations (Knight-Ridder, USA Today, CNN) investigated this, and in each instance Bush would still have won Florida. My suggestion: get the facts; and continue to question the vote in Ohio. Because it will continue to makes Democrats look dumb and dumber...if possible.
Can't that ignoramus Jacka$$ do something helpful for this country for once in his worthless existence?!?!? He's a reverend like my toe cheese is reverend!
One of my jobs in Cayuhoga County was to make sure that voters in line stayed there at poll closing. The Dems would do the same in any precinct where they found that to be an advantage. The voters that "left in frustration" in Ohio were the same that "were intimidated" by seeing a police car in Florida in 2000. They were objects of lawsuits rather than real people with real complaints.
Thank you!!
-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)
-good Thames, G.J.P.(Jr.)
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-G.J.P.(Jr.)
Could you imagine the mess this will create?
Believe it or not, I can.
That's the scary part!
coffee--->nose--->keyboard!
This is part of a carefully thought out, post-Florida 2000 strategy to discredit simple arithmetical counting of real votes by legal voters as the cast-iron bottom line of who wins and who loses.
What the real leaders of Boxer's silly little tantrum seek is twofold: First, that people wake up the day after an election, with all the votes counted, and say "I wonder who really won?"
Second, the proliferation of laws for election contests, ballot challenges, election courts and election judges. They want to put elections under the direct control of the Federal government unstead of under the unreviewable control of the People in their localities.
The reason they want this is simple: It's much easier for them to prevail in the courts or in a protracted, lawyer-driven "post-election" process than it is on election day.
It was insanity to collaborate in the "Help America Vote Act" to fix fictitious problems with the Florida 2000 vote. The only problem in Florida was that the democrats lost, and lacked the post-election cheating tools to recover in time.
NOW, they are willing to try to discredit a 100 000+ vote win, while affirming their 100-vote win in WA as sacrosanct.
This is going to get worse and worse, no doubt with the help of stupid Congressional Republicans.
There are no problems with the voting.
There are no problems with the voting.
There are no problems with the voting.
Other than that single clause, the other "reforms" are doing more harm than good, in my estimation.
You can always find a "problem" with anything if you look hard enough.
Voting is an organic act of the People, the way we exercise our sovereignty.
That's why politicians hate it.
Voting is not a Federal program, and it is not a federal responsibility.
Any act of Congress pertaining to the way localities vote is a bad thing, not because something good could be in it (that's true, the ID requirement is a good example).
It's bad because the employees presume to regulate their employers, and they will, in the aggregate, act to benefit incumbents and the political class.
All the rhetoric about voters being discouraged, or "all votes" not counting, is designed (brilliantly, BTW) to create a sense of uease in the People about our elections, and render them susceptible to the idea that HAVA, or HAVA II, might be a good thing.
It's not.
The only thing wrong with the voting, from a RAT perspective, is that the People are copping on to them, and they're losing.
Let's keep it that way.
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