Skip to comments.WA Gov. Race: Dino District Democrats [Leg. Certifies Gregoire 1/11 No Matter What]
Posted on 01/07/2005 8:41:33 AM PST by Publius
Sources in the legislature tell me that:
1. Contrary to an earlier rumor, it does not appear that the Democrats will attempt to certify the election on Monday.
2. The D's have the votes to certify on Tuesday, and they will move forward with that no matter how many people are protesting outside.
3. Nevertheless, it is important to lobby your legislators to try to persuade them to hold off on certification -- especially if you have a Democrat Senator and/or Representative and your district voted for Dino Rossi.
4. The advice for making your point to your elected officials: "Phone calls and e-mails are effective, and the more effective if they are courteous".
The following is an expanded list of the Dino District Democrats in the legislature. If you any of these people represent you, it's essential that you contact them. [If you're not sure of your district, go here and scroll down to "District Finder" ] Explain that there are too many irregularities in this contest to trust the outcome and that it would be only undermine public confidence in our electoral process if the legislature were to certify the result. Ask them to support a revote so we can restore confidence in the system and elect a governor who has a legitimate mandate, whomever that turns out to be.
|1st||portions of northeast King County and
south Snohomish County,
including areas of Bothell, Woodinville,
Mountlake Terrace, and Brier.
|16th||parts of Benton and Franklin counties,
and all of Columbia and Walla Walla counties.
|Rep. Bill Grant|
|17th||a portion of Clark County.||
|Rep. Deb Wallace|
|23rd||Kitsap County, including Bainbridge Island,
Silverdale, Poulsbo, Kingston,
and parts of Bremerton.
|Sen.-elect Phil Rockefeller
Rep.-elect Sherry Appleton
Puyallup, Milton, and portions of Fife
|Sen. Jim Kastama
Rep. Dawn Morrell
|26th||parts of Pierce and Kitsap Counties||
|Rep. Patricia Lantz
Rep.-elect Derek Kilmer
|28th||Fircrest, University Place, Lakewood,
and West Tacoma; Anderson,
Ketron, and McNeil Islands.
|Rep. Tami Green|
|30th||Federal Way, Milton,
Algona and Pacific
|35th||Mason and portions of Grays Harbor,
Kitsap, and Thurston Counties.
| Sen. Tim Sheldon
Rep. Kathy Haigh
Rep. William Eickmeyer
|41st||Bellevue, Mercer Island, Newcastle,
west Issaquah and northeast Renton
|Sen.-elect Brian Weinstein
Rep. Judy Clibborn
|42nd||the western half of Whatcom County.||
|Rep. Kelly Linville|
|44th||a portion of southwest Snohomish County||
|Rep. Hans Dunshee
Rep. John Lovick
|45th||parts of Kirkland and Woodinville;
Redmond, Duvall, Carnation and the
Upper Snoqualmie Valley
|Rep.-elect Larry Springer|
|47th||part of southeast King County from
the Renton Highlands to Kent to
|Rep. Geoff Simpson
Rep.-elect Pat Sullivan
|48th||parts of Bellevue, Kirkland,
Redmond, and all of Medina,
Clyde Hill, Yarrow Point and Hunts Point
|Rep. Ross Hunter|
That would be 20 Democratic Representatives and 6 Senators in Dino Districts. Only a few of them need to vote with their constituents instead of with their party bosses (and union paymasters) to preserve our democracy. Again, be impeccably courteous and appeal to their highest ideals of respecting the will of the people and insisting on clean elections to measure the will of the people. At the same time, the subtext should be that betraying one's constituents and certifying a fraudulent election should merit devastating consequences.
I know that many of these Democrats are worthy public servants. It would be a shame if any of the good ones sacrificed their careers in order to prop up this fraudulent circus of an election "victory".
I still think that the Dems have won the political battle for the Gov. race - even if they won it with imagined votes.......but I also think that the public knows that this race was won by cheating. I say save the candidate and use him for a Senate race --- ala like Daschle's seat
Maria Cantwell is unbeatable, an absolute shoo-in. Rossi doesn't want a senate seat or a career in politics. He doesn't need it. He wants to clean up the corruption in Washington State.
Here is my slightly edited letter:
TO: Representative Kelli Linville
SUBJECT: Don't certify a poor election
MESSAGE: Dear Kelli, Soon you will have the opportunity to prove, once again, how thoughtful, fair, and reasonable you are in representing us in Olympia.
The truth is nobody really knows who won the race for Governor. Therefore I ask that you would support a revote. Let we the electorate decide this race. Anything less would be unfair to either Christine Gregoire or Dino Rossi.
The job of Governor is difficult enough without someone having to deal with constant questions of legitamcy.
To let you know this was my opinion even before the final hand count was even started. The people of Washington are patient, we are willing to wait a little longer to make sure that who ever wins, actually won.
Democrats on Thursday said they believe a revote would violate the state constitution, which requires that the governor be elected at the same time as legislators.
The Democrats just stepped in it. If there is a revote for governor, there could also be a revote in all legislative contests. If public opinion continues to boil over about this, a revote would not only produce Gov. Rossi but a Republican legislature too. If I were a Democratic legislator, I would have to balance my fear of running again in 30 to 60 days versus running in 2 years with a pissed-off electorate remembering my vote.
rf...Publius is right...Rossi can't beat Cantwell in WA. For all the reasons he states, and the fact that she will be funded by out-of-state lib/dems at the request of Hillary. Even if he could come close, the Dems would steal the election as they have this one. It's just not realistic for him to concede to run against Cantwell.
What seems odd to me is that Rossi won many of these districts (albeit some by small margins) and there seem to be a disproportionate number of Dem legislators.
Is it a case of ticket-splitting by voters...or did the GOP run poor candidates for office?
Since this ends up needing to be posted on every thread about the stolen election, maybe it should just be added as a disclaimer to all the threads. :-)
Especially since it's one of the most positive qualities about Rossi. He genuinely wants to stay in Washington State and take a broom to it.
In other news, I just heard on the radio that Comrade Gregoirovich is holding a press conference today to announce cabinet appointments. They are shameless.
"Saving" Rossi for a Senate race is a fool's errand. First, he has said he isn't interested in running for Senate (I think he believes it is a consolation prize, and if so, he's right). Second, he probably can't beat Cant-do-well anyway. That 'Rat is just too entrenched, the libs love Cant-do-well, and the 'Rats are united behind her. This latter point wasn't true with Gregoire, which gave the Republicans a fair shot at winning, which they did, but it's an opportunity that doesn't come along very often. Third, Rossi won the governorship on the up and up, Gregoire didn't. Why should he lie down for the fraud? How many times is it going to take before we finally say, enough is enough?
There is no parallel between this race and the Thune-Daschle race in SD. This has come up so many times on these threads it time to put it to bed once and for all. First, the political dynamics of SD and WA simply aren't comparable. SD is a midwestern state that leans moderate to conservative in terms of demographics. WA is west coast liberal to a dominant extent. This was Rossi's shot. It isn't likely he'll have another chance. Second, John Thune's goal was to be in the Senate. He lost that in a fraud to Johnson in '02, but got a rematch against Daschle this time. IOW, he was going for the same prize. Rossi ran for Governor, because he believes that is the best position to be in to effect real change. He is right. A junior Senator from a state without much political clout in DC can't really do much to help the state where it needs help the most. Being buried in DC for the next 6 years, dealing with far-removed national issues, is too little, too late, even if he could win that contest.
Ticket splitting. Gregoire is not popular even in her own party. Dino hewed to the middle and tried very hard not to scare moderate Democrats and independents. It worked, otherwise Gregoire would have won in a landslide.
This stinks so bad that I will venture a bet that you will find quite a few Democrats that will leave the party in the State of Washington. The next election will be a Republican landslide. Look what happened to the Presidential election after the 2000 Democrat stuff in Florida.
Rossi may just have to stick it out and run against her in 4 years. Rudy Giuliani did it, his loss to David Dinkins had some questionable voting practices (not as blatant as in WA) - but he bided his time, built up his political base, and came back and beat Dinkins.
I've already done my duty there.
Thanks. Just putting the link out there for all to see and hopefully sign. I should have put to "all" rather than just your name - sorry.
It was "funny" to see Demos like B. Boxer decrying possible "fraud" in the presidential race in OH but not saying a word about her liberal neighbors to the north in WA State possibly stealing a governor's election from the rightful winner. I bet B. Boxer is convinced beyond "reasonable dobut" that her party nominee won in WASH State!
It's funny how the 'Rats think that a 120,000 vote margin is doubtful, but a 129 vote "win" is decisive and needs no further scrutiny. Bunch of lousy hypocrites.
One of the reasons Thune won was because South Dakotans overwhelmingly voted for Bush over Kerry.
Bush won't be of much use to a republican candidate in washington state in '06.
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