Stolen Election?

The Wall Street Journal ^ | January 12, 2005 | WSJ

[Brilliant]

Democrat Christine Gregoire will be sworn in as Washington's Governor today, possibly thanks to voters such as Mary Coffey, James Courneya and Rosalie Simpson. Why do we mention them in particular? Because, as the Seattle Post-Intelligencer recently reported, they're all dead...

Revelations of the formerly living casting ballots in elections isn't new to American politics, although it's something most of us thought was a relic of the late Richard Daley's Chicago. But this isn't the only jaw-dropper to have come out of Washington's gubernatorial race, which Ms. Gregoire claims to have won -- on a third recount, by 129 votes -- over Republican Dino Rossi. Now Mr. Rossi is contesting the result in state court...

Mr. Rossi certainly has a mountain of evidence on his side. In December, officials in King County...discovered 573 "erroneously rejected" absentee ballots, plus another 150 uncounted ones that showed up in a South Seattle warehouse. There were reports that hundreds of voters were registered in storage rental facilities and private mailboxes, that felons had voted, and that military ballots were sent out too late to be counted. Then we learned that several hundred provisional ballots had simply been fed into voting machines, making it impossible to authenticate their legality. Now it turns out the number of votes cast in King County exceeds the total number of voters by about 1,800.

County election officials insist these are all honest goofs, and that the vote tally was "99.9% accurate." ... But when the outcome of an election hinges on a considerably smaller fraction than 0.1%, the Ivory soap standard isn't good enough. ...53% of Washingtonians believe Mr. Rossi won... 36% ...think Ms. Gregoire won... Washingtonians also want a revote by a similar margin.

We sympathize with Mr. Rossi.... But ...no court is likely to reverse the result...

[The_Victor]

You have repeated yourself..

You're right. That might even qualify as triply redundant.

[cotton1706]

I'm from Massachusetts and we have the same problem here. The key is to break the stranglehold on the legislature and the government machinery. My guess is Rossi could have begun to do this if he had "won" like our governor is trying to do. We had a whole slate of great opponent candidates in the last election. Unfortunately we had no statewide election and we had a "favorite son" running on the national ticket. We didn't get anywhere in the election and even lost a seat in the senate. However, in two years, I think we can make some inroads.

[glennaro]

This has no doubt been noted before:

Hugh Hewitt was dead-on with his point (and book) of "if it ain't close, they can't cheat". Well, in Washington it was close ...

[cousair]

Our legislature in Washington state is pretty evenly divided...with the DNC holding the trump card in the vote. We try, but the fraud didn't just happen in this election there. It has been going on for years. Believe it, the state everywhere except around Seattle is very heavily populated by the GOP....true in Spokane area and near the southern border around Vancouver. I am amazed at the bold DNC attack in the face the THREE RECOUNTS...after the two Rossi won, the DNC knew exactly how many votes they needed for a third....amazing how fraud and stolen election work!!

[Savage Beast]

In all fairness, you should read the article and see what they have to say.

[An.American.Expatriate]

I did read it. The clerical errors are "acceptable" - knowingly voting in the name of someone else is not. And, the headline was designed to be misleading.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I've never heard any Washington Freeper say Rossi is a RINO, let alone "a lot".

[mysterio]

Absolutely not. Rossi won. However, I think that this election is not getting overturned. It simply astounds me that people would support her when the evidence of cheating is so blatant.

[gogeo]

Rossi is most definitely not a RINO.

[End Times Sentinel]

Again, I'm on the other side of the country and would NEVER try to tell someone from Washington (or even around there, or someone who followed the race closely at all) that they were wrong and I was right.  But just for example, not a FReeper, but I remember Michael Medved (who does live in WA) saying that the Libertarian candidate took an unusually high amount of votes because a lot of C's thought Rossi was a RINO.  Given, Medved hates third party candidates and voters (quite irrationally, in my opinion).

If you all think he's not, then that's good enough for me.  Just thought I'd point out one known source.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

[rockrr]

I haven't seen the posts you refer to, but I don't doubt that they exist. In the ideal world, we can all be extreme in our moderation, and all moderately extreme.

I don't think that I can name a single person working in Washington state politics that I would consider a "right-wing" conservative Republican - they are all moderate to moderate-right because that is the only way they can get elected (at least on the west side of the Cascades).

Dino is a great guy, and would be a perfect fit for governor in this state. The worst thing that the 'rats could say about him (besides the guilt~by~association to other republicans) is that he is a real estate developer.

I'm counting on the electoral dissatisfaction (and am going to exploit it over the next four years).

GreGore is illegitimate and won't have a moments peace!

[Lazamataz]

Look, the Democrats stole this one fair and square.

[ArmyTeach]

Are we surprised? There's a psychological defense mechanism called projection wherein an individual perceives in others the very character flaws and problems that he is unwiling to admit in himself. The DemonCrats accusing Republicans of corruption and election fraud is a clear example.

[CyberCowboy777]

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[End Times Sentinel]

I don't think that I can name a single person working in Washington state politics that I would consider a "right-wing" conservative Republican - they are all moderate to moderate-right because that is the only way they can get elected

Majoritively, that's the case here in PA, too.  Sure, we've got Santorum, had Pat Toomey and George Gekas, but by and large, there's no commitment to traditional C values, or to a lesser extent R values.

Even Speaker of the House John Perzel (R, sorta) promised to give the R candidacy in the 182nd District to a D if that D, Bob Keller, lost the primary.  If that's not a world class RINO, nothing is.  Maybe something along those lines is what the other FReepers were speaking of.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

[Paperdoll]

>The FBI ought to be pouring over the evidence trying to find a few of them to throw in jail. Why not fingerprint the ballots that mysteriously appeared to save the day for Gregoire after she'd already lost two recounts?<

What a BRILLIANT IDEA!

[Lancey Howard]

BUMP

[Paperdoll]

>Well, to answer that question honestly, I think I speak for many here when I say that I'm a BIG C Conservative and a little r Republican.<

Very well said, Owl_Eagle.

[lilylangtree]

Fraudoire--Great coin of phrase.

[Jim Noble]

The demoRats that control the state will want this swept under the rug as quickly as possible.

It's time to begin the healing.

Can't we all just...move on?

Come together-it's fr the children.