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Rossi v. Gregoire: What Matters Now
Timothy Goddard's Blog ^ | 12 January 2005 | Timothy Goddard

Posted on 01/12/2005 9:54:00 PM PST by Publius

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To: Publius

So what do we do now?


21 posted on 01/12/2005 10:21:03 PM PST by PureSolace (A Conservative bases his politics from his morals, and a Liberal bases his morals from his politics.)
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To: Publius
It would sure be nice to not have to wait four years to get rid of Jim Kastama.
22 posted on 01/12/2005 10:21:18 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: shotokan
If Rob McKenna is on his toes -- and once he cleans the Democrats out of his AG shop -- I suspect we'll see election workers Mirandized, turn and then implicate certain King County councilpeople.

A purge is coming -- a genuine political enema.

23 posted on 01/12/2005 10:23:11 PM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane; Pride in the USA
Ping!

Vance Holds Spokane Press Conference to Discuss Status of Election Contest

On Thursday, Washington State Republican Party Chair Chris Vance will be in Spokane to discuss the current situation in the election contest. The initial hearing of the election contest is scheduled in the Chelan County Superior Court this Friday.

Date: Thursday, January 13, 2005

Time: 2:00 P.M.

Place: Davenport Hotel, Isabella Room

10 South Post Street, Spokane

24 posted on 01/12/2005 10:24:04 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: PureSolace
So what do we do now?

Hope that the courts give an honest ruling in this case. And keep the political pressure on. Judges are elected in this state.

25 posted on 01/12/2005 10:24:48 PM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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To: Publius

If you have a ping list for this topic, could you add me please?


26 posted on 01/12/2005 10:25:14 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I've heard the 50K number a few times, I believe from John Carlson and also soundpolitics.com but I'd have to check to be sure.


27 posted on 01/12/2005 10:26:51 PM PST by 4woodenboats (I see Dead People - and they're voting in Seattle!! New Washington State Governor election!)
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To: Edgewood Pilot

LOL..they couldn't find a single soul to sign that...hahahahahaha


28 posted on 01/12/2005 10:28:54 PM PST by 4woodenboats (I see Dead People - and they're voting in Seattle!! New Washington State Governor election!)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I have mixed feelings about Kastama.

Right after the courts let the California recall go ahead, I had lunch with Kastama and found him to be as smart politically as anyone I've ever met. He predicted that Davis would be recalled handily and that Schwarzeneggar would win. He laid out succinctly what was wrong with California, the corruption in the legislature, and said that Cailfornia needed a political enema, something he thought Arnold would administer.

Kastama was one regular Democrat I thought would break ranks with his party and vote to hold off on certification. I was disappointed when he folded.

29 posted on 01/12/2005 10:30:38 PM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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To: Publius
What a wonderfully thorough treatment of the topic.

I'm hoping that our Washingtonian friends stand for a pitched battle on this election fraud and theft.

Anything less would be a signal to the dark side that cheating works.

BTW, the normally excellent WSJ had a pretty wimpy ed on this important topic. (Definitely not worth reading.}

30 posted on 01/12/2005 10:35:19 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Publius
Very good analysis and I agree with everything except the following which I find questionable under the classification of what does and does not matter to a court:

Systemic problems: Systemic problems, problems with election law as written, as important as they are to fix, will not help with the contest -- namely, because the same systemic problems will almost certainly be in play in any revote. What needs to be shown -- and clearly has been -- is unique instances of illegal voting, or voting irregularities, that can be avoided in the next vote.

The reason I question this is because of the military vote. We might agree that the 'disenfranchisement' here is something that 'does not matter' in court but....

there are reports of possible violations of meeting post office deadlines and there is the strange 'back dating' just recently observed.

If there is evidence that a deadline was in fact missed although published otherwise, then that should be material to the courts.

In short, if King County promised to meet a deadline for mailing out military ballots and reported that they had indeed met the deadline but instead had lied or otherwise obfuscated the actual mailing dates that were after the deadline, then this could amount to misconduct as well.

I'd be interested in your views on this.

31 posted on 01/12/2005 10:35:24 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Publius
I am still trying to figure out how Kastama came from behind to beat Joyce Macdonald in the 2000 election by a few hundred votes.
32 posted on 01/12/2005 10:37:02 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Publius
WHAT DOESN’T MATTER... Gregoire’s inauguration: This doesn’t matter a whit, according to the law. Don’t let anyone tell you different... . I can’t imagine the legal backflips and distortions that would be needed to not throw out this election. If any readers would care to give it a shot, I’m all ears.

I still think that, judges being human, may be extremely tempted to say that the disruption to the state from unseating a sitting governor outweighs the irregularities in this election. I hope I'm wrong.

What happens to Gregoire's appointments if she's ousted? Are her appointments considered null and void? Will the Democrats raise a stink if a Governor Rossi demands the resignations of Gregoire-installed politicos?

-PJ

33 posted on 01/12/2005 10:38:19 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Hostage
I got word this past weekend that the FBI was nosing around the King County election offices because of the military ballot issue. There was a possibility of violations of federal law concerning military absentee ballots. This probably wouldn't affect the state civil case in Wenatchee, but it sure as hell would open the door to a federal criminal prosecution.

The real issue of systemic problems is that you would have to have the state AG and the Washington State Patrol watch the vote counting like hawks to get an honest count out of King County.

34 posted on 01/12/2005 10:41:06 PM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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To: GretchenM

Bump


35 posted on 01/12/2005 10:42:02 PM PST by ride the whirlwind (It is nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
If the court annuls the election, it declares the governorship vacant. Lt. Gov. Owen would become the acting governor until after the revote. Once Rossi wins -- and I see that as a foregone conclusion -- he has the right to fire anybody Gregoire appointed to an appointive office.

Are her actions since the inauguration null and void? I don't know. The legislature spends its first week figuring out where the bathrooms are, and they won't have anything for Gregoire to sign until April at best. I suspect there is little mischief she and her pals in the legislature can do in that limited time.

36 posted on 01/12/2005 10:45:13 PM PST by Publius (The people of a democracy choose the government they want, and they ought to get it good and hard.)
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To: Publius

placemarker


37 posted on 01/12/2005 10:45:41 PM PST by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: Edgewood Pilot

When staff became aware that a group of ballots were incorrectly categorized and rejected, we researched and corrected the error,

By utilizing a marker to designate voter intent?


38 posted on 01/12/2005 11:21:17 PM PST by taxesareforever (Then there's the theory it happened 13 billion years ago)
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To: Publius
Hope that the courts give an honest ruling in this case.

Thanks for posting this informative blog. I'm not familiar with WA politics. Could you please tell me the political make up of the Washington State Supreme Court? Just a general left leaning or right leaning is fine.

39 posted on 01/12/2005 11:24:36 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Publius
there is plenty of mischief for a Democrat to do....I notice the outgoing Democrat just had to name some commission heads just before his term ended.....they can't help themselves...their all about their power and how to keep it within the family....

to me, naming judges, and commissions, and regents, and the like is trying to button down more power......

40 posted on 01/12/2005 11:29:15 PM PST by cherry
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