Posted on 01/13/2005 9:41:07 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
Will Jews begin proclaiming "Long live the king" in the near future?
According to a group of 71 Jewish scholars who met this week in the Old City of Jerusalem in the form of a modern-day Sanhedrin – a duplicate of the religious tribunal which convened during the time of the Second Temple – a coronation day is growing closer.
As one member of the group put it, "We would have liked it to happen yesterday. But we are willing to wait until tomorrow."
There hasn't been a genuine Sanhedrin in Israel for nearly 1,600 years; the last one to be proclaimed was in France, by Napoleon, for political gain. Shortly after the establishment of the State of Israel, religious affairs minister Judah Leib Maimon raised the notion of reinstituting the ancient body, to no avail.
The group composed largely of Kahane sympathizers that gave itself the name Sanhedrin in October, however, met Sunday to discuss the creation of a Jewish monarchy in the State of Israel.
For the past several years a group called the Monarchists has conducted extensive research into the lineage of several families in an effort to discover who has the closest bloodline to the biblical King David – a requirement for any future Jewish king.
Rabbi Yosef Dayan from Psagot, known for his recent threats to place a death curse on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, is said to be a leading candidate to become the "king of Israel."
"Dayan has the best lineage to King David," several members of the Sanhedrin told The Jerusalem Post. They say he has two documented ancient sources which draw a direct line between him and the males in his family to King David some 3,000 years ago.
"Many people can show they are descendants of King David, but they cannot show that the line is only male," one Sanhedrin member explained. "That makes Dayan the leading candidate to become king."
The Monarchists have consulted with non-Jewish experts on lineage. They concurred that, without a doubt, Dayan is a direct descendent of the House of David.
The only question now is how to establish the Jewish monarchy in spite of the presiding democratic government.
"There are two possibilities," Dayan explained. "The first is that the nation or a majority from within will want the monarchy and will uproot the presiding democratic government."
The second, more realistic option, he said, is "the one cited by Maimonides – and that is that no one will know how it will be until it happens."
Some of the other ideas discussed at the Sanhedrin meeting included the construction of an altar on the Temple Mount to be used for the Passover Offering during the upcoming holiday.
One of the ideas, members said, is to climb the Mount and build the altar within minutes and sacrifice the lamb before security forces can stop them. Another, said leading Sanhedrin member Baruch Ben-Yosef, is to pray for a tsunami-like disaster on the Mount.
"In one second, God wiped out 150,000 people," he said. "Who knows? Maybe he'll help us if we show him we are ready."
Participants also discussed Ben-Yosef's idea of reinstating the Sanhedrin's authority to announce Rosh Hodesh, the beginning of the new lunar month. "It is very important to reinstate the Sanhedrin's authority to announce the month, because it will force people to understand that God gave us the power to control the calendar and our own destiny," Ben-Yosef said.
"In one second, God wiped out 150,000 people," he said. "Who knows? Maybe he'll help us if we show him we are ready."
What kind of "God" do these people worship?
The God of the Old Testament. Noah's Flood, the destruction of the Egyptians, yada, yada. Get it?
Baruch Ben-Yosef will not be part of Moshiach's Sanhedrin. With a comment like that, which implies needless death and destruction in the Holy Land, he has just counted himself out big-time. Most Jews do not seek the death of other human beings as a necessary pre-condition to the ushering in of the Messianic Age.
One notable thing about the Old Testament, while there is sometimes spectacular carnage, you don't have folks bragging about how many souls they are going to have smitten dead before the actual smiting takes place.
"Read the bible much? God's index finger apparently packs quite a wallop."
Yes I have read. I can find no such prayer acceptable.
Time for a non-elected government chosen by Jewish religious leaders.
They're a little late on this. There already is a son of David reigning as king. No need for any more.
Now there is a Rabbi that does not understand God. Israel already has a King of Curses, Sharon.
Ping!
What kind of "God" do these people worship?
King Thorazine!!
thats a good one.
"The God of the Old Testament. Noah's Flood, the destruction of the Egyptians, yada, yada. Get it?"
No I do not get it. Noah's Flood was for a specific purpose, no flesh being prayed for it. Even after those children were brought out of Egypt in a short span of time wanted to go back. There was nobody praying to leave Egypt, not even Moses wanted to speak.
It's not suprising at all that it's a bunch of Kahanists doing this.
-Eric
Interesting post.
"The God of the Old Testament. Noah's Flood, the destruction of the Egyptians, yada, yada. Get it?"
You make it sound as if the God of the Old Testament was different than God at some other time. Explain?
The OT, when done right, was a time of Kings and so on. Democracy does not necessarily rule in the Biblical sense. Read Samuel and Kings.
Israel needs leadership like those days.. Right now.
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