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Posted on 01/14/2005 7:57:27 AM PST by madprof98
Woo hoo! I've made the big time. Last month, the website Free Republic featured a thread about my Nov. 18 column, "Queers Who Don't Act Right." You probably don't know much about Free Republic unless you are a right-wing lunatic. Free Republic is so far right that wing-nut gay muckraker Matt Drudge and Lucianne Goldberg, one of the architects of the Clinton-Monica Lewinsky brouhaha, both left the site in 1999 because it was too extreme, even for them.
In the years since, the site has become the contemporary version of a marathon meeting of the old John Birch Society and the KKK. Most recently, Free Republic was in the news when John Corsi, one of the Swift Boat Veterans who authored a book attacking John Kerry, turned out to post embarrassingly racist messages there. (Of course, he argued his racist insults were all "a joke." Talk about your Clintonian rhetoric.) The site also was in the news recently because someone correctly posted that Dan Rather had relied on phony documents to impute President Bush's National Guard service.
Free Republic is so extreme that it's a blast to read. Don't bother to explore the site with the idea of posting an alternative perspective or to correct facts. Your post will simply be deleted, despite its owner's celebration of freedom of speech. The site has no hesitation in reprinting copyrighted material, like my column, even though the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times both successfully sued to stop such theft. In other words, as is generally true of the lunatic far right, the truth, free speech and the law only matter when they support their point of view.
Of course, Freepers, as the creepy wing-nuts on the site are called, were not alone in being outraged by my column. I received quite a lot of mail, mainly from other gay people, questioning my argument that LA Fitness at Ansley Mall overreacted when it closed its sauna because of some occasional sex and reopened it with a new picture window overlooking the locker room. As an update, I might add that the window has effectively eliminated unseen sexual interactions inside the sauna and made room for another, more open form of sex between people on either side of the window: exhibitionism and voyeurism.
Most of my correspondents argued that the occasional discovery of sex in the sauna merited involvement by the police and the health department, reconstruction of the sauna and a report by one of the local TV stations. And, as usual, they concluded that because I called that overreacting, I must favor sex in public spaces. No matter that I said I find the behavior annoying. To be righteous, I must find it -- what? -- criminally actionable.
I wasn't surprised by the reaction. Sex troubles people more than anything. That's why Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob, while Bush was re-elected despite lying about a war that has killed thousands. Gay people's oppression is the result of their sex lives, so it's not surprising that they are hypersensitive to anything that might add to the picture of deviance. But it has become obvious that the very effort to make all deviance disappear and to assimilate -- to marry, for example -- increases prejudice.
The Freepers, of course, took outrage over my column to dizzy heights, fabricating arguments I did not make. This began with the man who posted it, "madpro98." He said that I dismissed "all sexual conventions, including common decency, as so much homophobia." Actually, I wrote no such thing. Then, of course, the Freepers concluded that the case of LA Fitness means every gay man is a sauna whore. For example, "Sender" writes: "Does anyone else think it's strange that gay men often have sex in a public toilet stall? ... Even if we had unisex public restrooms, somehow I can't imagine a man and a woman eyeing one another while washing their hands, then just jumping in the stall for a go."
The writer obviously has never been to Buckhead on a Saturday night. But what cracks me up is that the Freepers are so anxious to bash someone like me that they don't even realize when they are supporting a contrary argument. For example, "buffyt" quoted my statement that I don't like "stumbling upon any sex scene to which I have not been invited." Then she riffed obsessively about heterosexual couples at Mardi Gras "coupling all over the place" while the police ignore them. Exactly. Heterosexuals spoil the view with public sexual interactions every bit as much as homosexuals, arguably more, when they can find a place to do it. Nobody followed up on that post, of course.
I'm not going to quote the mind-boggling illogics and endless sophomoric fag-bashing (despite arguing they aren't homophobic). But I will thank "Jack Black," who wrote: "I think this was very well written. He is writing for the audience of radical homosexuals as one, so I have trouble twisting my thoughts enough to get to his point of view, but I still think the writing is good." Kiss me, dude!
Cliff Bostock holds a Ph.D. in depth psychology. Write him at cliff.bostock@ creativeloafing.com.
This "writer" is following the homosexual agenda propaganda techniques lifted by Goebles to a tee. Marginalize the enemy, ridicule their view, and prevent others from considering them.
He is attempting to marginalize dissent by labeling. In this case by advising discussion is not tollerated.
It is amazing how closed minded the homosexual are compared to conservative thought.
Instead of standing up and screming Nazi, this homosexual stands up and screams "john birch society". The pink swastika would be proud.
"Matt Drudge and Lucianne Goldberg, one of the architects of the Clinton-Monica Lewinsky brouhaha, both left the site in 1999 because it was too extreme, even for them."
I realized then that I may be in trouble. I think FR is pretty much middle of the road and fair.
I have seen the same thing. And boy are they self-absorbed.
My best friend in high schools dad became "confused" and because of that I met a lot of male queers. They all were extremely self-absorbed and just about every one of them was self-destructive. I was a teenager and all of these guys were predators in one way or another. A couple found out from me they could not take a punch very well.
Cliff Bostock has visited here and then writes about Freepers being John Birch types and the KKK. He is as wrong about that are he was in assuming in his writing that what male queers do with each other is "sex".
Bostock will be reading every one of these posts here. He won't be able to not read them. Because this thread is about him.
Unfortunately for Mr. Bostock and the micro-minority of queers on the planet what queer men do always comes down to what, well, what queer men do. And all the focus on the psychology of queers or the feelings of queers might be helpful to the queers in their quest to be normal but it's a quest without end. And in all the time past and all the time to come nothing Mr. Bostock can do or will do will change the fact that for the majority of men homosexuality is about as attractive and understandable as one of those reality shows where they eat worms and bugs.
Mr. Bostock has written a lot about queers and can continue to write about them using his education in "depth psychology" as the basis for his musings but at the end of the day he and those that choose the lifestyle he follows will still not be right with the nature of things. If being queer was normal it would be normal. Duh!
;-)
Well, now that's a fine how-do-you-do. Being called names by this esteemed intellect. Umm. I can think of a few he fits too--but then , why would I waste any more time on this individual then I have already by writing this?
How can the government grant marriage licenses without defining what marriage is?
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I agree. And, if someone thinks otherwise...we debate it. That's what makes it so enjoyable. I have changed my view/opinion on subjects because of it. Makes me a better person, IMHO.
"What are you doing, trying to get me in trouble.."
LOL!
Don't worry about it.
There are a few Democrats here on FR.
They're rational, well thought out, and enjoy the ambience and atmosphere here.
That explains a lot.
I dunno, but it currently does just that.
At least here in NY it does.
You wish you could f*** with me. Oh wait, you're gay. Probably not.
Oh that's good! :-)
On a related note, what was yours (prior to this one)?
You might also wish to point out that Homosexuals as a group have a higher per capita income in the industrialized world than almost any other "minority" group.
Of course, you might wish to count investment bankers as a minority group, in which case they do somewhat better.
He wrote his dissertation on what makes some people scuba dive.
I think he is trying to get a response out of FR in order to be important. If FR ignores him then the does not exist.
If an article is not posted and discussed on FR, is it realy news?
Tooting his own horn, huh?
Somewhere between the wrist and the elbow.
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