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Elian (Gonzalez) Assault Trial Set for Monday
NewsMax ^ | 1/22/05 | AP

Posted on 01/22/2005 1:21:27 PM PST by wagglebee

MIAMI (AP) _ A federal judge has set a Monday trial date for the claims of a dozen people who said they were wrongly assaulted by federal officers during the raid that removed Elian Gonzalez from his family's home.

The plaintiffs say they were innocent bystanders who were gassed and beaten outside the home during the early morning raid on April 22, 2000.

U.S. District Judge Michael Moore set the trial date Friday.

"I think the public's going to be surprised that elderly people were gassed while praying the rosary," said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which represents 11 of the plaintiffs.

The federal government's attorney did not return a message seeking comment Friday.

Elian was one of three survivors of a November 1999 shipwreck that killed his mother and others fleeing Cuba. He was turned over to his Miami relatives while his custody situation was resolved.

The raid took place after government officials said the family refused to return the boy so he could be taken back to his father in Cuba.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: butchreno; castro; clinton; communism; cubalibre; eliangonzalez; gilligandalrymple; jackbootedthugs; janetreno; judicialwatch; turass
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To: Ready4Freddy

The "lawyering up" did him a lot of good, didn't it? Since I've never heard ANY claim that the folks in that house were armed, would you care to explain the excessive use of force in getting him out? Puzzles me how many people don't seem to care what was done that night. And as I recollect, the appeals process was short circuited by the snatch and grab.


41 posted on 01/22/2005 4:33:16 PM PST by PzLdr
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To: queenkathy

This incident put President Bush in the White House.


42 posted on 01/22/2005 4:34:26 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: wagglebee

the wheels grind slowly, but they do grind.


43 posted on 01/22/2005 4:37:10 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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To: humblegunner
I was living in Miami when this happened. Never before have I seen such an arrogant display of gestapo tactics as that put on by the authorities in the Gonzalez case.

Stop putting refugees from Communism in the same category with illegal Mexicans. Cubans have a large social support network, so little Elian wouldn't have been a drain on the system as you suspect.

Besides, if it weren't for Jackboot Janet's fascistic treatment of the Gonzalez family, we wouldn't have won Florida in 2000.

44 posted on 01/22/2005 4:38:03 PM PST by Clemenza (Europhiles and Monarchists should be purged)
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To: gortklattu

And I know someone who says he misses how peaceful it was during the Clinton years ....


45 posted on 01/22/2005 4:39:49 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Clemenza
Cubans have a large social support network, so little Elian wouldn't have been a drain on the system as you suspect.

And what of the "large social support network"?
Do they have jobs or are they just Cuban?

A support network must needs be durable beyond welfare and WIC.

46 posted on 01/22/2005 4:44:44 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: PzLdr
I recall reports of several of the Little Havana crowd (including the great uncle, he who had been in the US for ~15 years and still spoke no English) claiming or suggesting that they had weapons in the house or nearby. I think the great uncle's bravado, playing to the crowd, led Justice to believe that a quick & powerful operation was in order.

The Little Havana Gonzalezes were in direct violation of a lawful order from the DOJ. No US Court ever decided that it was appropriate for the Court to intevene in an area of obvious Executive purview.

47 posted on 01/22/2005 4:46:19 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: humblegunner

Cubans dominate the business community in Miami-Dade County. Remember that the largest wave of Cuban immigrants who came to this country in the 1960s-1970s were from the upper and middle classes. A large business community, combined with substantial social support networks (mutual aid societies), have made other ethnic groups (blacks) jealous of Cubans relative success.


48 posted on 01/22/2005 4:46:40 PM PST by Clemenza (Europhiles and Monarchists should be purged)
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To: wagglebee

It is ABOUT TIME!!


49 posted on 01/22/2005 4:46:53 PM PST by Politicalmom ( Since Bush was selected in 2000, shouldn't he be able to run again in 2008?)
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To: queenkathy
the judge is Michael Moore? I think I'd change my name. So seriously, why is this happening so many years later and what could the outcome be? Is it for $$ or what?

Well they cannot be prosecuted for criminal charges but civil suit is likely. I hope they win big. What happened was COMPLETELY wrong.

50 posted on 01/22/2005 4:48:58 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: humblegunner; Clemenza

Mexicans have such a "large social support network" here that they are able to send 14 billion USD back to the motherland each year.


51 posted on 01/22/2005 4:49:15 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: humblegunner

That IS what the law says about Cuban immigrants.


52 posted on 01/22/2005 4:49:45 PM PST by Politicalmom ( Since Bush was selected in 2000, shouldn't he be able to run again in 2008?)
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To: humblegunner; Clemenza

The Cuban community in South Florida is by and large solidly middle and upper middle class. Elian Gonzalez's uncle has purchased the house where Elian lived and turned it into a museum, they are hardly paupers.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/5/233738.shtml


53 posted on 01/22/2005 4:50:29 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: Ready4Freddy
EVERY IMMIGRANT GROUP who has ever come to this country sends remittences back home. All of my great grandfathers did the same thing 100 years ago.

The remittance issue is a stupid one that only lower class populist idiots would emphasize. The problem with the illegal Central Americans and Mexicans is their drain on social services (hospitals/schools).

54 posted on 01/22/2005 4:51:23 PM PST by Clemenza (Europhiles and Monarchists should be purged)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Ping
55 posted on 01/22/2005 4:52:13 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Ready4Freddy
The report that there was a gun in the house ( legal in this country, at that time ) came to Reno through a major US intelligence resource named Fidel Castro.
56 posted on 01/22/2005 4:53:06 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Don't get eliminated!" - MXC)
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To: Clemenza
Cubans dominate the business community in Miami-Dade County.

And that is a wonderful & joyous thing for our country isn't it?
I'd rather not get banned today so I shan't continue this.

57 posted on 01/22/2005 4:53:43 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: OldFriend
I have no doubt Reno would have resorted to shooting anyone who was not incapacitated by the sudden attack of tear gas and overwhelming force.

The same people who were always accusing John Ashcroft of trampling on people's rights had no problem with Janet Reno's handling of Waco, and the Elian Gonzalez situation.

58 posted on 01/22/2005 4:54:18 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Clemenza
Those would be the ones who fled because they were a bit too close to Batista. The ones who lost their plantations.

I work with quite a few Cuban immigrants in my line of work. I get the distinct impression that most want to return to Cuba. My guess is that Little Havana will empty rather quickly when the time to return comes.

Remember that the largest wave of Cuban immigrants who came to this country in the 1960s-1970s were from the upper and middle classes.

59 posted on 01/22/2005 4:54:24 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: wagglebee

Elian **bump**


60 posted on 01/22/2005 4:55:18 PM PST by nicollo
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