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1 posted on 01/24/2005 5:20:01 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
"For an organization to spend their time and money promoting untruth and lies against gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders is a deplorable situation."

Excuse me 'lady', as a free American I can spend my time and money saying anything I want and your assumption of untruths and lies is just that.

2 posted on 01/24/2005 5:25:07 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Dog Gone

Watch for the left-wing censorship police here.


3 posted on 01/24/2005 5:25:16 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Dog Gone
The left isn't up to speed yet on the whole "free speech" thing yet.
4 posted on 01/24/2005 5:26:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Dog Gone

I know several people who claim this worked for them.


5 posted on 01/24/2005 5:26:59 PM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Dog Gone
Null, the mother of a gay son and lesbian daughter

Someone is living in denial IMO. I would consider myself an abject failure as a parent under those circumstances. If she wants to respond she can pay for her own damn billboards.

6 posted on 01/24/2005 5:27:00 PM PST by Horatio Gates
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To: Dog Gone

Truth can have an amazing effect on some people. Exodus International has been ministering to those enslaved by homosexuality for a long time. I am glad to see this approach.


7 posted on 01/24/2005 5:27:55 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Nightshift; DirtyHarryY2K; little jeremiah

ping


8 posted on 01/24/2005 5:29:20 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Dog Gone
"For an organization to spend their time and money promoting untruth and lies against gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders is a deplorable situation. Our children are perfectly fine the way they are," said Sue Null, an advocacy chairwoman with PFLAG.

Ms. Null, so far as I can tell (I haven't seen the billboards), the organization is presenting the fact that for those who are oriented toward the same sex and find the lifestyle unfulfilling, an alternative exists. It's a stance that's very pro-choice, if you will.

10 posted on 01/24/2005 5:35:45 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: Dog Gone
The billboards, however, have drawn the ire of Parents, Family and Friends of Lesbians and Gays of Houston. A spokeswoman for the gay advocacy groups denounced the campaign, describing the effort as "lies" and "myths."

Aw, too bad… What about all of the "lies" and "myths" spread around by the homosexuals that have “drawn the ire” of the normal population?

Null said her group is considering ways to respond to the billboard campaign

What about trying to change? If it works then there were really no "lies" and "myths." As a bonus all those who successfully changed get to enjoy normal lives.

Though he is aware of opposition to the conference, Cline said he does not expect the event to be disrupted.

I am sure the Christians arrested in Philadelphia didn’t expect to be jailed or charged with felonies either
13 posted on 01/24/2005 5:45:20 PM PST by Lucky Dog
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To: Dog Gone
Null ... said Focus on the Family's claims are not plausible, especially when it says intense religious pressure can change a person's sexual orientation.

Focus on the Family makes no such claim. I don't know if the Houston Chronicle got it wrong or if the PFLAG spokeswoman did, but this is misinformation, especially in light of the accusations of "lies" and "myths."

14 posted on 01/24/2005 5:49:13 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: Dog Gone; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ..

Ping.


15 posted on 01/24/2005 5:57:39 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: Dog Gone

Heck of a name, Null.

I'm sick of the way people like this always twist what ministries like this do. No one is forcing people to go to these conferences, people go of their own free will. Of course, that is the very thing that Null would like to stop.

Not everyone is happy living in the homosexual lifestyle. That is a fact. And I'm quite sure that a lot of the people who say they are happy are not. Null would like all of those who are miserable to remain miserable just so she can preach her message that there's no way out.

And what the heck is it with this transgender thing? How in the world can you look at a person who wants to have his genitals removed and say that's normal. Given, there could be some things going on in a persons body that we don't understand, but I don't think that bodily mutilitation is the solution.

As for changing, there are failures, even in a religious atmosphere. The idea is not to become a heterosexual, to become straight, though that may happen. The idea is to get right with God. If people set their sights too high, they're going to see themselves as failures if they don't make it. At that point they'll probably fall back into their old ways, ways that are comfortable.

I think that people have to have the right mindset to change as well. It's like when you tell someone you're sorry when you're really not. You may say you're going to change, but deep down you think, I really like this, I'll just fool around a little bit. That little bit becomes more and more until finally you give up and say the system failed you, instead of you failing.

The big problem that Null has is that her worldview depends on homosexuality being innate. That gives them a leg up (so to speak) in getting non-discrimination legislation passed. The worst enemy of her kind is people like John Paulk and Stephen Bennett.

Speaking of Paulk, the homosexual groups went nuts when he walked into that gay bar in DC or wherever. Would they tell an alcoholic that fell off the wagon to give it up and just accept the fact that he's an alcoholic? Mind you there is more evidence for alcoholicism being genetic than homosexuality. Paulk fell off the wagon, big whoop.

If things continue like Null wants, we'll have states like Illinois that have passed legislation that protects a group of people because of their BEHAVIOR.


17 posted on 01/24/2005 6:09:03 PM PST by thompsonsjkc
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"For an organization [like PFLAG] to spend their time and money promoting untruth and lies against about gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders is a deplorable situation. Our children are perfectly fine the way they are" said Sue Null, an advocacy chairwoman with PFLAG says almost every single parent in the United States.

There, that's TRUTHFUL.
23 posted on 01/24/2005 6:29:14 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Dog Gone
"The billboards, however, have drawn the ire of Parents, Family and Friends of Lesbians and Gays of Houston."

Who do these people think they are? So what if they don't like it. I see a lot of things I don't like, on billboards, on television and lots of other places. I deal with it! What these people don't like is having anything pricking what's left of their consciences.

24 posted on 01/24/2005 6:40:31 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Dog Gone
"Null, the mother of a gay son and lesbian daughter..."

That strikes me a humorous--"Null" is an understatement.

25 posted on 01/25/2005 2:32:10 AM PST by ViLaLuz
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Ping


26 posted on 01/25/2005 8:23:40 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Dog Gone
The advertisements, which depict either a smiling man or woman, bear the message, "I questioned homosexuality. Change is Possible. Discover how."

First person account ... can't argue with that. What's the offense?

"For an organization to spend their time and money promoting untruth and lies against gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders is a deplorable situation. Our children are perfectly fine the way they are," said Sue Null, an advocacy chairwoman with PFLAG.

If your children are fine, why should this message bother you? Your children aren't the ones asking the questions. The children who are asking the questions deserve to know there are answers.

What bothers you so much, Suzie? Are you afraid they might ask the questions?

Shalom.

27 posted on 01/25/2005 8:32:32 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Dog Gone

but a homo-dating service in plain sight of all children would promoted.


30 posted on 01/25/2005 8:36:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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