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State Dept. Issues Travel Warning for Mexico
AP ^ | 26 Jan 05 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/26/2005 4:07:53 PM PST by fidelio

WASHINGTON (AP) - The State Department on Wednesday issued a travel warning for Americans visiting Mexico, saying violent criminal activity, including murder and kidnaping, has increased in its northern border region.

"U.S. citizens should be aware of the risk posed by the deteriorating security situation," the department said in a public announcement. It added that the great majority of victims are Mexican citizens.

The announcement attributed the increased crime to a war between criminal organizations struggling for control of the lucrative narcotics trade. It said the leaders of several major criminal organizations have been arrested, creating a power vacuum.

"This has resulted in a wave of violence aimed primarily at members of those trafficking organizations and criminal justice officials," the announcement said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: corrupthellhole; mexico; statedept; travelwarning
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1 posted on 01/26/2005 4:07:53 PM PST by fidelio
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To: fidelio

Mexico has been a hellhole since its revolution in the early 20th century.


2 posted on 01/26/2005 4:12:40 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: fidelio

"U.S. citizens should be aware of the risk posed by the deteriorating security situation,"

There AND here.


3 posted on 01/26/2005 4:13:23 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: fidelio

Geez - we just had a violent kidnapping that turned into murder here in Dallas this last week ... are we seeing the evolution of the openly violent Mexican gangs?


4 posted on 01/26/2005 4:13:46 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: fidelio

color me shocked.


5 posted on 01/26/2005 4:15:02 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: fidelio
I have never understood why Americans want to visit Mexico. It is just rampant with criminals, that including the police and military.

I had neighbors that went down there. The man had a heart attack and died. You would not believe what the widow went through to get him back here and the money it cost her. Blackmail.

6 posted on 01/26/2005 4:15:51 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: fidelio
Unless there are some compelling business reasons, I'm not sure why Americans visit Mexico, and I say this as someone who was pressured into visiting last month by my relatives.

Mexico sucks rocks. The rest of Central America is safe and the people are friendly to Americans.

7 posted on 01/26/2005 4:15:54 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: _Jim
are we seeing the evolution of the openly violent Mexican gangs?

I dont think they are evolving as much as migrating north by our politicians invitation...and Americans weakness... imo

8 posted on 01/26/2005 4:17:17 PM PST by joesnuffy (Truth is truth, even if no one believes it..and a lie, is a lie, even if everyone believes it.)
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To: fidelio

This bodes ill for the future of OUR border states.


9 posted on 01/26/2005 4:18:06 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Dog Gone
"The rest of Central America is safe and the people are friendly to Americans."

And just out of curiosity, how many in those areas had a kind thing to say about Mexicans? ( I already suspect I know what you'll say )

10 posted on 01/26/2005 4:18:11 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: BenLurkin
This bodes ill for the future of OUR border states.

You mean things in California might get worse?

11 posted on 01/26/2005 4:19:03 PM PST by My2Cents ("I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: fidelio; B4Ranch; Happy2BMe

I'll wait for the fed to issue travel warnings to the Mexicans traveling into the US.

Right. Nevermind.


12 posted on 01/26/2005 4:19:34 PM PST by glock rocks ( Miss Kitty, the sun hasn't come up on the day that Marshal Dillon can't take care of himself.)
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To: My2Cents

Yes, and rapidly I fear.


13 posted on 01/26/2005 4:20:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Vicki
It is just rampant with criminals, that including the police and military.

Bribery will take you where you need to go in Mexico. Welcome to our turd wurld neighbors... er, open border trading partners.

14 posted on 01/26/2005 4:22:04 PM PST by glock rocks ( Miss Kitty, the sun hasn't come up on the day that Marshal Dillon can't take care of himself.)
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To: Vicki
I have never understood why Americans want to visit Mexico. It is just rampant with criminals, that including the police and military.

I agree with you about those negatives being enough to not want to go. Even though I live close to the border I very rarely cross it. However, the country has gorgeous areas and could be a wonderful place to vacation (and for its citizens, live in) if their society could shape up. It is the attractive scenery and climate and cheap goods that are the attraction.

15 posted on 01/26/2005 4:22:08 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: BenLurkin

Wow, don't you think the Mexican tourism bureau is in a tizzy right now. American tourism is an absolutely huge industry for the country.

Anyway, this is a major diplomatic shot across the bow of the Mexicans to clean up their act. In diplomactic circles, this would be like a bunfight at a state dinner.


16 posted on 01/26/2005 4:24:23 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: fidelio

I think it's interesting that Rice was confirmed this morning and there was a news item that she would be quickly sworn in today (with a formal swearing-in held Friday for the traditional photo-op) and out comes this advisory.


17 posted on 01/26/2005 4:25:01 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: My2Cents
This bodes ill for the future of OUR border states.

This is exactly what we have been saying for decades.....

Living in Texas, we all went to Mexico to shop and mingle with the locals...in the 50s & 60s. Now I would not cross the border for any reason.... They hate us as much as the muslims do....

19 posted on 01/26/2005 4:25:36 PM PST by cbkaty
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To: fidelio

The filthy corrupt hellhole known as Mexico is awash in narco violence in it's own country and is also exporting here to the the good old USA. In a few more years you won't be able to tell the two countries apart.


20 posted on 01/26/2005 4:25:54 PM PST by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: Vicki

On my single trip to Mexico I was pulled over without cause and threatened with arrest if I didn't turn over $2000 US cash on the spot. I worked 'em down to $200 and got the hell out of there.


21 posted on 01/26/2005 4:27:14 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: Pyro7480; fidelio
Mexico has been a hellhole since its revolution in the early 20th century.

And the Reconquistas think they should be in charge of Texas and California! BAH!

22 posted on 01/26/2005 4:28:17 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: JustDoItAlways
Anyway, this is a major diplomatic shot across the bow of the Mexicans to clean up their act. In diplomactic circles, this would be like a bunfight at a state dinner.

Indeed I just noted that Rice was not only confirmed today, but I read earlier that she was going to be sworn in today and then we get this.

Unlike the handwringers on this thread, I saw this as you did...a shot across the bow.

23 posted on 01/26/2005 4:29:43 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: _Jim
are we seeing the evolution of the openly violent Mexican gangs?

Yes! coming to a city near you soon!

Another major reason to protect the borders and stop them from coming into our country. The state department realizes there is a serious threat on the other side of that border yet will do nothing to protect us on this side??

24 posted on 01/26/2005 4:30:46 PM PST by stopem
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To: JarheadFromFlorida

Welcome to Free Republic. Sadly, I have to agree with your assessment.


25 posted on 01/26/2005 4:32:08 PM PST by glock rocks ( Miss Kitty, the sun hasn't come up on the day that Marshal Dillon can't take care of himself.)
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To: fidelio

How timely. Dr Rice = Travel Warning of Mexico? I like it so far. Next, clean house in the State Dept


26 posted on 01/26/2005 4:32:43 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: daybreakcoming

Finally, another soul with brain in gear!

You and one other...

And don't worry. She'll be cleaning up. I'll bet the whining from the losers weeded out will be beyond what we've been treated to before. The New York Times should be a stitch as they wax indignant over the travesty of it all.

I can't wait!


27 posted on 01/26/2005 4:34:35 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: fidelio

MY, MY..Vincente will not like this..cuts down on tourism?


28 posted on 01/26/2005 4:35:18 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Tench_Coxe
In some Central American countries, a small tip to a government employee might expedite whatever you're trying to do. It's a little annoying, but you're not bribing them into doing something illegal, it's not much money, and they'll eventually process you without the "tip".

In Mexico, the police will steal your stuff and when you file a complaint they will offer to find it for you for a reward based on the value of the item. They find it right away.

Mexico is utterly corrupt, and everybody in the Western Hemisphere knows it. You're fine in the gringo destinations like Cancun and Acapulco as long as you stick to the main tourist areas. The prices are 50 times higher than they charge for comparable amenities for Mexicans in other regions, but you'll be treated reasonably well.

Stray off the beaten path and you're at best pestered by beggars and con men, and at worst extorted or even killed.

29 posted on 01/26/2005 4:36:13 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Vicki
We have sportfishermen that go to Mexico by boat to Cancun and Cozumel. It's not too bad over there and you can go across the Gulf in about a day. The sailfishing is second to none from now til' Spring. But they would not go near the mainland such as Mexico City or the Northern border.
30 posted on 01/26/2005 4:37:14 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: fidelio
.......saying violent criminal activity, including murder and kidnaping, has increased in its northern border region.

Meanwhile, most of our elected fools appear to be completely unconcerned about the massive criminal activity committed by illegal aliens from Mexico right here in the U.S.

31 posted on 01/26/2005 4:37:30 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: fidelio

Drugs, violence, weapons and rich addicts in el norte. Perfect growth medium for al queda.


32 posted on 01/26/2005 4:39:56 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: BenLurkin
"This bodes ill for the future of OUR border states."

The present is bad enough.

33 posted on 01/26/2005 4:40:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: cyncooper
I think it's interesting that Rice was confirmed this morning...

The timing IS suspicious. Seems unlikely she would have made this decision this early doesn't it? Someone at State having some fun?

FGS

34 posted on 01/26/2005 4:40:36 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: cyncooper

There is a Sweeden vs Mexico soccer game (not sure if it's tonight or not) planned for Petco Park in San Diego. I was unsure how security comming in from Mexico is going to be handled. Seems like it will be out of control. Anyone have any other info? I just caught this on local news last night.


35 posted on 01/26/2005 4:41:07 PM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Whatever happened to the WOD? Whatever happened to the DEA? Even if we stopped the illegals ivading for employment we'd still have the violent drug cartels pushing their sh$t.


36 posted on 01/26/2005 4:41:50 PM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: sam_paine
Anyone ever notice the hugh and elaborate funerals given to the 'guest workers' when one of them gets executed by the Great State of Texas?
37 posted on 01/26/2005 4:42:43 PM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: stopem
A shot across the bow. Our Ambassador to Mexico is Graza a very close George friend and a great Ambassador. A short time after he arrived in Mexico the Iraq war started and Garza had the entire Embassy tied in a yellow ribbon. The Mexicans were stunned as Graza let them know where he stood.

A technicality--this isn't a travel warning its a Public Announcement a step down in severity but the Mexicans who live on tourism apart from drug $ and remittances from their "immigrants" in the US must be in a tizzy.
38 posted on 01/26/2005 4:43:04 PM PST by lajefa
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To: cbkaty
They hate us as much as the muslims do....

And although the reasons aren't identical, there is one common theme -- envy. ....Seething envy.

39 posted on 01/26/2005 4:43:19 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ForGod'sSake

I was thinking it was issued at her direction. If someone sent out this advisory without authorization they can expect to be dealt with.

However, I am inclined to think this is a warning to Mexico that changes must be made.


40 posted on 01/26/2005 4:43:47 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Mr. Mojo
As I predicted several months ago the congressional pubbies won't be able to ignore the border fiasco much longer. The wench is on it big time. And remember rats don't have the burden of actually having to "do" anything all they have to do is "talk" about it and the media considers it mission accomplished.
41 posted on 01/26/2005 4:44:28 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: cbkaty
They think we stole their precious land, back after that little fracas we call the Mexican-American War.

Personally, I'm warming up to the idea of invading Mexico, declaring it the 51st state, and declaring marshal law in the border areas. As part of the US, Mexico would immediately be seen as a desirable place to live again by its expatriots living in the northern 48 illegally. And think of our access to that Mexican crude oil.

42 posted on 01/26/2005 4:46:36 PM PST by My2Cents ("I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: investigateworld

Who pays for all them candles?


43 posted on 01/26/2005 4:47:36 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Robert Drobot

Here ya go! Condi in charge.


44 posted on 01/26/2005 4:48:15 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: My2Cents
That's a novel idea but we would have to finish off Iraq, Iran and Syria before we take on the narcos of Mexico. It would be like taking on Colombia, for real, not the way we do it now.
45 posted on 01/26/2005 4:49:30 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: cyncooper
I was thinking it was issued at her direction.

She might have but sure seems unlikely IMO. I've no doubt she's more hard core than Powell could ever be, but still it just doesn't seem like a move a newbie Sec would make.

If she's establishing "Bona Fides", she's got a, er, set.

FGS

46 posted on 01/26/2005 4:49:37 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: CAluvdubya
There is a Sweeden vs Mexico soccer game (not sure if it's tonight or not) planned for Petco Park in San Diego.

Saw a Mexico vs. U.S. soccer game on TV in '97 or '98 (played at the L.A. Coliseum) that was beyond anything I could ever imagine. The U.S. national anthem was booed mercilessly, the crowd was awash in a sea of Mexican flags, and "urine bombs" were being tossed at both the U.S. players AND those in the crowd who actually had the guts to openly root for the home team.

47 posted on 01/26/2005 4:51:23 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Vicki
"I have never understood why Americans want to visit Mexico. "

It’s a crap shoot. I took 2 trips deep into Mexico on a motorcycle. The first I was robed, pistol whipped and spent 4 days in the barrios at a cop’s house waiting for money to be wired. The second 10 years later was with my wife. She’d been with me all over the California, the Caribbean and South Pacific, but admitted that motorcycling down Baja was the best vacation of her life (and the one that she was least looking forward to.)

There’s something very rejuvenating about vacationing in such an untamed, often beautiful and sometimes lawless place. It’s not for everyone, which is part of its appeal.

48 posted on 01/26/2005 4:51:45 PM PST by elfman2
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To: glock rocks

"Bribery will take you where you need to go in Mexico. Welcome to our turd wurld neighbors... er, open border trading partners."

Six years ago I went to Mexico City for the company I was working for at the time. What an eye opener. The company had a guy on retainer that did nothing but accompany us everywhere we went to pay bribes (the bite). As an American you could find yourself in a world of hurt if the proper bribes were not paid. My experience compells me to believe that Mexico has a ways to go before it can be elevated to turd world status.


49 posted on 01/26/2005 4:51:58 PM PST by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: fidelio

Thank you for posting this, and all I can say is it's about time. I will be forwarding it DIRECTLY to my daughter.


50 posted on 01/26/2005 4:52:13 PM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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