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Steve Gardner : Sorry Brother, Hanoi Kerry lied about you again today on Meet the Press
Meet the Press 01/30/05 ^ | 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Posted on 01/30/2005 8:37:43 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

...SEN. KERRY: We were right on the border, Tim. What I explained to people and I told this any number of times, did I go into Cambodia on a mission? Yes, I did go into Cambodia on a mission. Was it on that night? No, it was not on that night. But we were right on the Cambodian border that night. We were ambushed there, as a matter of fact. And that is a matter of record, and we went into the rec-- you know, it's part of the Navy records. It's been documented by the other guys who were on my boat. And Steve Gardner, frankly, doesn't know where we were...

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To: mass55th

That bit about the Khmer Rouge,,I kept thinking I imagined it till I saw the transcript. Fat chance our CIA was taking arms to the KR when they were supporting the VC at the border during that time. Kerry claimed treason today on nat tv and noone noticed but us!


41 posted on 01/30/2005 9:11:41 PM PST by cajungirl (my peeps are freeps)
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To: inkling

I caught that too about the CIA delivering guns to the Khmer Rouge, can that possibly be true?


42 posted on 01/30/2005 9:11:52 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: inkling
So, the CIA was delivering weapons to the Maoist Khmer Rouge? What the...?!

Exactly. This is nonsense. The Communist Party of Cambodia was founded in the early 1950s, although in its early years it remained subordinate to the Communist Party of Vietnam. In the 1970s the Party adopted the name "Party of Democratic Kampuchea," ("Kampuchea" being an alternative spelling of Cambodia), but became commonly known by the French name Khmer Rouge. From the mid 1960s the Cambodian Communists conducted a low-level insurgency along the Vietnamese border, mainly in support of the Vietnamese Communists in their war with the United States.

On March 18, 1970, Cambodia's neutralist ruler, Prince Norodom Sihanouk, was deposed while out of the country by a coup d'état, widely believed to have been organised by the United States, which brought General Lon Nol to power. With American financial support, Lon Nol attempted to fight the Vietnamese Communists and the Khmer Rouge insurgency they were supporting. However, U.S. bombing in Cambodia and the subsequent Cambodian casualties made Lon Nol's government unpopular, and caused support for the Khmer Rouge to grow, particularly in the countryside. Support for Sihanouk, who had been exiled to Beijing, was also strong in rural areas, and he urged resistance against Lon Nol's regime. By 1973 the Khmer Rouge exercised de facto control over the majority of Cambodian territory, although only a minority of its population

43 posted on 01/30/2005 9:12:02 PM PST by kabar
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To: All

Washington Post 8/21/04

"Although Kerry campaign officials insist that they have published
Kerry's full military records on their Web site
(with the exception of medical records shown briefly to reporters earlier this year),
they have not permitted independent access to his original Navy records.
A Freedom of Information Act request by The Post for Kerry's records produced six pages of information.
A spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command, Mike McClellan,
said he was not authorized to release the full file,
which consists of at least a hundred pages. "


44 posted on 01/30/2005 9:12:08 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: All

45 posted on 01/30/2005 9:13:31 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: mass55th

Yes they did. If I remember corrrectly they said they were in some town or village in Vietnam at least 50 miles or more from Cambodia.


46 posted on 01/30/2005 9:13:51 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: quantim
As best I can remember one had to do with the actual date he was supposedly 'In' Cambodia and next it was just outside the border. He also had to change the actual President (Johnson NOT Nixon - The one who denied troops were in Cambodia, further undermining his claim of somehow being in Cambodia despite Presidential denials)

Another had to do with his military records where he flopped around claiming he had turned them all over and, I think I heard him say he had signed the 180 (My ears perked u at this so I think I'm right in my recall) at which Russert pounced. Russert finally forced a mumbled yes after repeated questions as to whether he would sign the form 180.

The third was to do with his supposed delivery of arms with a CIA agent and then it was a Special Ops and then he didn't know who it was but he wished the guy who gave him the hat would please contact the MSM so he wouldn't look like a liar/nut.

There was even more but, as I said I only watched for about 5 minutes and didn't take notes. I would have to see the transcript but I think I roughly summed up the brief time I could hold my nose to view Kerry.
47 posted on 01/30/2005 9:14:13 PM PST by drt1
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To: All

Contact the GOP controlled US Senate
AND
The MAIN STREAM RIGHT WING MEDIA

Distribute these url's!

EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

MUST SEE WEBSITE!!!!

http://www.kerrystreason.com/index.html

Full details on these url's!

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com


48 posted on 01/30/2005 9:17:07 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Kerry has never released all of his records. He still has not produced the supporting documentation for his first PH, which was approved after his supervisor refused to aprrove it and then left country. Moreover, there was no casualty report to document the wound or an after action report to show hostile fire. If Kerry ever signed a 180, his political career would be finished. I don't believe he will ever authorize release of his complete military record.


49 posted on 01/30/2005 9:17:23 PM PST by kabar
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Sorry .. it's not the RNC's job to defend the Swift Boat Vets - whether you think that's right or not. The SBV's are not a repub organization or arm of the party (even through the dems tried to claim they were). RNC has no authority to comment about Kerry's statement about Steve.

Any of the other SBV's are more than able to make any comment regarding Kerry's statements. But .. in my book, it's really up to Steve to make a comment.


50 posted on 01/30/2005 9:17:44 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: quantim
P.S. Where in Michigan - I'm Bloomfield Hills
51 posted on 01/30/2005 9:17:57 PM PST by drt1
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To: Tuba Guy

it's all about him.

52 posted on 01/30/2005 9:18:05 PM PST by bitt (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: drt1

Transript

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6886726/


53 posted on 01/30/2005 9:19:47 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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U.S. Senator John Kerry (news - web sites) (D-MA) speaks on NBC's 'Meet the Press' January 30, 2005 during a taping at the NBC studios in Washington, DC. Kerry made comments on various issues including the elections in Iraq (news - web sites) and the Bush Administration's policies. REUTERS/HO/Alex Wong/Courtesy of Meet the Press


54 posted on 01/30/2005 9:21:10 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: cajungirl; inkling; All
Dogpile search "CIA Support of Khmer Rouge"

It seems it could be true but not in the time frame Kerry is talking about.

55 posted on 01/30/2005 9:26:29 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: CyberAnt

"Sorry .. it's not the RNC's job to defend the Swift Boat Vets - whether you think that's right or not. The SBV's are not a repub organization or arm of the party (even through the dems tried to claim they were). RNC has no authority to comment about Kerry's statement about Steve.

Any of the other SBV's are more than able to make any comment regarding Kerry's statements. But .. in my book, it's really up to Steve to make a comment."

"RNC has no authority to comment about Kerry's statement about Steve."

So it's ok for Hanoi Kerry to lie AND remain in the US Senate?

That's why I am an Independent.

Viet Nam Vets have learned to stand alone.

Steve has already said what he needed to say to help re-elect President Bush.

BTW Why is the Main Stream Right Wing Media silent?





56 posted on 01/30/2005 9:27:44 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: devolve; Happy2BMe; Smartass; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP

Kerry still insisting he was 'on the border' of Cambodia.


57 posted on 01/30/2005 9:28:18 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: quantim
Tonkin gave me a link to a transcript - I found one more that I saw - He disagreed with what Kennedy had said about the War last week - Before he agreed (You would have to see the transcript but it's real)

Re: Form 180 - I was wrong - Apparently I heard Russert first bring it up. Where the flip was when he reluctantly agreed to sign the 180 - No conditions. Ten seconds later he was placing the condition that all of his accusers sign the same form, implying that as a condition of his own release. Here's the link to the transcript Tonkin provided:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6886726/

58 posted on 01/30/2005 9:31:08 PM PST by drt1
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To: CyberAnt

Here, The GOP can handle this,
without getting their hands dirty with Viet Nam Vets

John Kerry's 2005 Mideast "Bash Bush Tour"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320709/posts

Kerry Criticizes Election Outcome At MLK Day Breakfast

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322542/posts

Kerry Holding Mideast Talks with Chirac

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1321339/posts

Kerry to meet with French president Jan 14 '05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320157/posts

Kerry: Arabs frustrated by U.S. policies

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1321483/posts

KERRY TO AL AZHAR GRAN IMAN:
WASHINGTON COMMITED TERRIBLE MISTAKES IN IRAQ (TRAITOR ALERT!)
Jan 13 05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320020/posts

Kerry bashes US policy in meeting w/ leader of foreign group opposed to US
(not ‘71 or ‘85 – Jan 12 05!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1319451/posts

"Former U.S. presidential candidate Senator John Kerry (D-MA), an election observer,
leaves the office of Mahmoud Abbas, in the West Bank city of Ramallah in this
January 10, 2005 file photo. Middle East countries are frustrated by U.S. policy in
Iraq and feel too little is being done to end violence there, U.S. Senator John Kerry
said on January 12, 2005 on a visit to the region. Kerry repeatedly criticized the
Bush administration's Iraq policy during his failed bid to win the U.S. presidency
from George W. Bush, who led the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein."

Hanoi Kerry is NOT a legitimate US Senator.

Never has been!

The traitor is doing the same thing he has always done.

Aiding the enemy!

Kerry Trashes Bush in Baghdad Jan 05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315333/posts

Kerry Meets With Syrian President Jan 05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316737/posts

PM SHARON MEETS WITH KERRY Jan 05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1317636/posts

Don't be like the Silent Majority in the 60's and 70's
Demand Kerry be ousted from the US Senate!

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

Kerry was an illegal candidate
and is an illegal US Senator per
US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1314858/posts


59 posted on 01/30/2005 9:32:36 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: drt1
Salem TWP. Mega-conservative. 83% republican. Lots of guns, big yards, money, no Kerry signs during the election. Horses in your back yard. Kind of a transition area. A few miles south, the bastion of MI liberalism exists in a place called Ann Arbor.   And AA is enough to swing Washtenaw County and the state with it.
60 posted on 01/30/2005 9:37:17 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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